4 Valves per cylinder ?

4 Valves per cylinder ?

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gruffalo

7,529 posts

227 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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Gazzab said:
V8 GRF said:
Gazzab said:
Is this engine by autocraft?
Autocraft don't exist anymore
Hmmmm
I do not know of Autocraft but I have heard of a company doing a very poor 4 bolt main bearing AJP, would this be the same company?

bionicjim

473 posts

140 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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And what company would that be then

Gazzab

21,108 posts

283 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Dave's old co.

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

211 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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This sort of petty tittle tattle is the one thing that annoys me about PH and usually very subjective posters.

I doubt anyone can name me a company that hasn't had issues with customer complaints about service, component quality, mistakes etc etc at some point
and some of those that have are well known and 'respected'. It's all down to perception and how the customer and service provider deals with the situation.

Everybody makes mistakes and most people are allowed to move on and be judged by their current work but some people for some reason have to hang on to the past and makes snide remarks and innuedno about things where they probably don't even know the full story. There is always two sides to a story and that is why the N&S rule on here exists, it's very easy for one side of a story to be taken as the full truth and become accepted despite there being another side.

I'm sure many people here work directly with clients and customers and as we all know some of those can be (putting it politely)a real PITA so why is it always accepted in these pages that the customer is the one ALWAYS in the right?

My personal opinion is that a company should be judged by it's current work and as far as I'm aware all the 'names' and some up and coming ones in the business at the moment (not just engine builders) have/are receiving good feedback so why don't we work on that basis till we hear new stories to the contrary eh?

Edited by V8 GRF on Saturday 20th October 11:06

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

141 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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If you know him, then I know of a some people who'd like a word. Might clear the air and give Dave a chance to put his reputation right.

bionicjim

473 posts

140 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Here here
There are lots of main stream car companies and there repairers
That also have had terrible pasts
Yet very few people remember those times
One problem I see with the tvr community is that it's a small
And all the bad things get bounced around and the good things aren't mentions
And people tend to spend a huge amount of money
I've heard not so good things about power/race proved/austec and so on
As well as good things
If we are talking about who I think you are
I have heard fantastic things about them

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

211 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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jamieduff1981 said:
If you know him, then I know of a some people who'd like a word. Might clear the air and give Dave a chance to put his reputation right.
He's not exactly hiding anywhere, so I'd suggest you do a bit of research smile

bionicjim

473 posts

140 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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I've looked it to this a lot
And I have noprobs with thinking out side the box and fully support it
I really think people need to let sleeping dogs lie

Gazzab

21,108 posts

283 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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I was only asking / guessing. Anyone spending this sort of money will do their research and assure themselves etc I guess.

DAVEY DEE

647 posts

155 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Not sure what's going on here but you have to give anyone their due who is going to try something different,in any walk of life.Who ever it is,has,or is going to be investing a lot of time & no doubt lots of money in TRYING to get this to work.It may not.But at least they are trying.I doubt who ever it is is going to be taking deposits just yet...so let's wish em luck.Good luck with the project & I hope if nothing else,the developer enjoys their creation,even if it doesn't lead to a commercial venture.

bionicjim

473 posts

140 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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This engine is being funded by the companies and not a customer
So if it doesn't work or has reliability issues then no one will be out of pocket
Except the company involved
This is an old project that some one is good enough to bring back to reality
With a revision of heads the old jag heads needed an monumental amount of work
And was deemed not viable option
Although some of the party's involved at that time (and you know who you are) it was a good solution to begin with

m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Gazzab said:
I was only asking / guessing. Anyone spending this sort of money will do their research and assure themselves etc I guess.
What happened to your last engine build ? Did they re re build it for free?

Gazzab

21,108 posts

283 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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m4tti said:
Gazzab said:
I was only asking / guessing. Anyone spending this sort of money will do their research and assure themselves etc I guess.
What happened to your last engine build ? Did they re re build it for free?
Should be soon...

good40

286 posts

145 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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m4tti said:
What happened to your last engine build ? Did they re re build it for free?
Last heard it was being used a a coffe table as its being re built(longest ever) in some Bloke's house & his missus if fed up with the mess in the kitchen,so yes it will be soon when they can get little Johnny to find the ball bearing's he was using as marbles back.

Dave/V8 - This sort of petty tittle tattle is the one thing that annoys me about PH and usually very subjective posters.-
Bang on there mate !

Gazzab

21,108 posts

283 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Asking who built an engine is generally deemed important regarding ajp's and S6's.
Don't really think all this aggressive defence is going to help the debate. Puts us back to 2004 time.
Back to the topic, I can't wait to see this up and running. I guess that there was a mark 1 version (jag based) going by the posts above and that that one didn't work out, this one seems much more hopeful. I wish them luck.

Edited by Gazzab on Sunday 21st October 12:45

good40

286 posts

145 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Sorry only jesting in hindsight in bad taste, not malice intended , very sorry.

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Gazzab said:
Asking who built an engine is generally deemed important regarding ajp's and S6's.
Don't really think all this aggressive defence is going to help the debate. Puts us back to 2004 time.
Back to the topic, I can't wait to see this up and running. I guess that there was a mark 1 version (jag based) going by the posts above and that that one didn't work out, this one seems much more hopeful. I wish them luck.
I agree it's important but speculation until something is properly announced is fun but not helpful if posts hark back to previous times that really are no longer relevant, that was the point I was making.

I'm not sure the Jag version was ever properly assembled, I think it was more theoretical/finger in the air stuff that was close but no cigar whereas the current work I believe is more or less right out of the box as I understand.

DAVEY DEE

647 posts

155 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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+1

Gazzab

21,108 posts

283 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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V8 GRF said:
Gazzab said:
Asking who built an engine is generally deemed important regarding ajp's and S6's.
Don't really think all this aggressive defence is going to help the debate. Puts us back to 2004 time.
Back to the topic, I can't wait to see this up and running. I guess that there was a mark 1 version (jag based) going by the posts above and that that one didn't work out, this one seems much more hopeful. I wish them luck.
I agree it's important but speculation until something is properly announced is fun but not helpful if posts hark back to previous times that really are no longer relevant, that was the point I was making.

I'm not sure the Jag version was ever properly assembled, I think it was more theoretical/finger in the air stuff that was close but no cigar whereas the current work I believe is more or less right out of the box as I understand.
It was a question not speculation. An answer gives clarity where speculation otherwise exists. It is, IMHO, a relevant question to potential customers if they deem it relevant.
I was told the mk1 was running 500bhp.
Anyway I can't wait to see a 500 plus bhp ajp. Bring it on, let the engine do the talking.

bionicjim

473 posts

140 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Good to see the topic has not gone stagnant