4.5 vs 4.2 Cerbera

4.5 vs 4.2 Cerbera

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PuffsBack

2,430 posts

226 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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Pah! Pointless question!, why have sandpaper when you can have silk wink

Jhonno

5,806 posts

142 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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I like sandpaper..

scotty_d

6,795 posts

195 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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PuffsBack said:
Pah! Pointless question!, why have sandpaper when you can have silk wink
Silks for girls wink

C3BER

4,714 posts

224 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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There is a speed 12 with a little silk in it wink

clive f

7,250 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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tvrtuscans said:
I know that this has been asked before, but....cutting to the chase, what are the pro's and con's 4.5 Cerbera vs 4.2.....
looking at another to add to the stable Tony?

gruffalo

7,544 posts

227 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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ff5317 said:
gruffalo said:
Unless you have a 4.7 that is of course.
Yeah, but the 5.0 is the real one to have!
Poo, double trumped, I thought there was only one of those made and Phil James had it?

ukkid35

6,196 posts

174 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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4.2 Pros:

Air box design - the 4.5 airboxes are a POS, and some owners have found to their cost that when the fittings fall apart it means an engine rebuild, that is inexcusable. To my horror I recently found one of the fittings rattling around inside one of the air filter tubes completely by chance, my heart missed a beat. The 4.2 airboxes look much better (but I could be mistaken).

Intake manifold design - I'm only guessing that having the injectors upstream of the butterflies is not a great idea as on the 4.5, the 4.2 has them downstream. Tell me I'm wrong.

Value - 4.2 cars have depreciated more than 4.5 cars, and therefore represent much better value. They also seem much more plentiful and therefore it's easier to secure a good example.

I can't think of any other reasons why someone would prefer a 4.2 to a 4.5.

Cerbieherts

1,651 posts

142 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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Yes I agree, the 4.5 airboxes are complete piles of crap. Ultimately, no matter how well you patch them up their going to come apart again and when they do, big expensive bits of engine can be damaged.

Gazzab

21,111 posts

283 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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Only heard of one apparent air box killing engine story but that ended up being incorrect.
There were two or three 5.0 ltr engines.

Cerbieherts

1,651 posts

142 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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Have never personally seen an engine failure because of it, only heard the "stories", but the very possibility of it, plus I've found various parts floating around in there over the years is a worry that shouldn't exist. Those airboxes look like they have been constructed by a blind monkey.

Brummmie

5,284 posts

222 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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ff5317 said:
gruffalo said:
Unless you have a 4.7 that is of course.
Yeah, but the 5.0 is the real one to have!
6.9 is even better! smile

C3BER

4,714 posts

224 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Brummmie said:
6.9 is even better! smile
No that's a strap-on wink

gruffalo

7,544 posts

227 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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C3BER said:
Brummmie said:
6.9 is even better! smile
No that's a strap-on wink
rofl

tejr

3,116 posts

165 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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ukkid35 said:
I can't think of any other reasons why someone would prefer a 4.2 to a 4.5.
The earlier 4.2s came with the original 'clatter' cam design which I believe the 4.5 missed out on? Would also be interesting to see if a clatter cam 4.2 (with the 4.2 intakes) makes more power when converted to a 4.7/4.8 compared to a converted 4.5?

tvrtuscans

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1,009 posts

212 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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clive f said:
tvrtuscans said:
I know that this has been asked before, but....cutting to the chase, what are the pro's and con's 4.5 Cerbera vs 4.2.....
looking at another to add to the stable Tony?
smile

Gazzab

21,111 posts

283 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Just buy on condition and provenance.

scotty_d

6,795 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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^ Best bit of advice in this thread.

C3BER

4,714 posts

224 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Best but not the funniest

good40

286 posts

145 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Even then its still possible to buy a dog that ends up in the garage raping your wallet. For peace of mind I have a have a specialist inspection, been lucky so far!

TVR500Morgan

1,183 posts

153 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Where's BossCerbera when you need him hehe