Cerbera prices?

Cerbera prices?

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Walford

2,259 posts

166 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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"You’ve noticed that the price of TVR’s is climbing."

No, what i have noticed is people not driving these cars, putting them in the garage polishing them talking about the price going up

Just had six weeks driving my Tuscan every day in the UK and not seen another TVR on the road all very sad

Jhonno

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5,771 posts

141 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Walford said:
"You’ve noticed that the price of TVR’s is climbing."

No, what i have noticed is people not driving these cars, putting them in the garage polishing them talking about the price going up

Just had six weeks driving my Tuscan every day in the UK and not seen another TVR on the road all very sad
I've seen plenty... Which has made me jealous!

Jimbolian

246 posts

140 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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I have'nt even seen my own car, gone for a summer holiday to TVR Central...

TimJM

1,497 posts

210 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Jhonno said:
longbow said:
TimJM said:
The only way will see Cerbera 34k prices anytime soon is if all owners decide overnight they are worth 34k and won't part with them for a penny less. Then if anyone wants one they are 34k.

I'm up for this lol...........
All hands up for agreeing... laugh
This would make for a very interesting economic study. If say 10-15 Cerbera owners all put there car for sale at 34k (with no intention of selling) will it force the prices up? Will people with cars at 10-12k think "Well my car must be worth 20k at least!"...very interesting.

If you think about it that is how prices move. A few years ago you could pick up a Sagaris for low/mid 30k then a few mad people asked 40k...which led to others asking 40k...which led to the good examples asking 45k...which led to others asking 45k...which led to...you get the idea.

Also things like the Parkers/Glass values which dealers/people use are based on average prices and updated monthly from average asking prices (they must be asking prices as they claim their prices include values from private sales).

Rather than year after year moaning about depreciation and people giving away their cars for little money perhaps we should form a price fixing ring? Take some proactive action at restoring the brands value to where we think it should be.

It would be interesting...40k Cerbera anyone?

Cerbieherts

1,651 posts

141 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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It's worked well for owners of Ferrari's.

ukkid35

6,175 posts

173 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Libor Scandal?

wiggycerb

246 posts

194 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Im up for a bit of that whistle

Griffithy

929 posts

276 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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TimJM said:
This would make for a very interesting economic study. If say 10-15 Cerbera owners all put there car for sale at 34k (with no intention of selling) will it force the prices up? Will people with cars at 10-12k think "Well my car must be worth 20k at least!"...very interesting.
With such few cars on the market and in existence this shouldn´t be a big problem.
If prices would be higher there wouldn´t be that many cheap bad ones on the market, because restoring them would make sence.
Original low miles examples would rise even more and the highest prices will then be made by the barnfinds.
So get a cheap one and put it in a barn very fast. wink



PuffsBack

2,428 posts

225 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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For 34k I would want proper blended in lights wink

natben

2,743 posts

231 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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PuffsBack said:
For 34k I would want proper blended in lights wink
And a Speed Six Puff.......


(waits on the AJP Police spitting there dummy out) he he........

Jhonno

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5,771 posts

141 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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natben said:
PuffsBack said:
For 34k I would want proper blended in lights wink
And a Speed Six Puff.......


(waits on the AJP Police spitting there dummy out) he he........
laugh

For 40k you'd expect an AJPV8.. winkbiggrin

natben

2,743 posts

231 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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And sub £20k for an LS.......

(before they jump in here and quote £50k !!)

laugh:

Jhonno

Original Poster:

5,771 posts

141 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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hehe

TVR is best.. biggrin

TimJM

1,497 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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I was looking at the current cerb classifieds on PH...


...and all of a sudden I had a vision from the future...




That is what we could achieve if just a dozen people got together. As soon as my restoration is complete I'm in. People might be a little suspicious of a £30,000 Cerbera that is currently in in 30,000 pieces.

Anyone up for a 30k+ first page of the classifieds?

scotty_d

6,795 posts

194 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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PuffsBack said:
For 34k I would want proper blended in lights wink
Nah every one knows pod s are the best looking on cerbs wink

tejr

3,105 posts

164 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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scotty_d said:
Nah every one knows pod s are the best looking on cerbs wink
Because you still have the opportunity to accept the errors of your ways and go back to the 'proper' lights tongue outbiggrin

Rochester TVR

3,313 posts

206 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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Just did an interesting exercise. What do you make of the prices below? (All from PH classifieds)

Sagaris
Top: £60,000
Middle: £53,750
Bottom: £47,500
  • Target Cars discounted to keep it UK specific.
T350
Top: £36,995
Middle: £29,495
Bottom: £21,995
  • Target Cars discounted to keep it UK specific.
Tamora
Top: £21,990
Middle: £18,195
Bottom: £14,400
  • Target Cars discounted to keep it UK specific.
Tuscan
Top: £37,995
Middle: £26,872
Bottom: £15,750

Cerbera
Top: £22,995
Middle: £16,472
Bottom: £9,950
  • Discounted the Carisma Cerbera and the Cerbera up for £34k.
Griffith
Top: £39,995
Middle: £25,472
Bottom: £10,950

Chimaera
Top: £26,990
Middle: £16,620
Bottom: £6,250

I'm going to have a stab at guessing price movements over 12-36 months.

My predictions:
Sagaris: Have hit their ceiling and could drop by ~5k and remain there for eternity.
T350: Will continue to climb untill they meet bottom end Sagaris prices.
Tamora: Will climb by the same amount as the T350 with some overlap for the very best examples.
Tuscan: Top end (MK3) prices to increase to just above bottom end Sagaris prices, lower end prices to increase slightly.
Cerbera: Currently way underpriced and will start to increase to reflect Griffith prices.
Griffith: Top end prices to remain the same, lower end prices to increase.
Chimaera: Top end to increase slightly - Lower end prices to increase substantially.

Basically if you want a TVR in tip top condition then it'll cost you ~£40,000 for most models.
Lower end prices will start to increase as taking on a project car becomes more financially viable due to the potential value of a finished car project being worth more.
Eventually price differences of ~£30,000 (as in the Griffiths case) will decrease as ropey examples are restored.
I don't think anyone currently owning any TVR will loose money in the next 12-36months.
I don't think a new TVR model will affect prices of past models as the cars will be from different era's and potentially quite different due to the new cars having to meet new EU legislation etc.




camel_landy

4,894 posts

183 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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Rochester TVR said:
I'm going to have a stab at guessing price movements over 12-36 months.

My predictions:
Sagaris: Have hit their ceiling and could drop by ~5k and remain there for eternity.
T350: Will continue to climb untill they meet bottom end Sagaris prices.
Tamora: Will climb by the same amount as the T350 with some overlap for the very best examples.
Tuscan: Top end (MK3) prices to increase to just above bottom end Sagaris prices, lower end prices to increase slightly.
Cerbera: Currently way underpriced and will start to increase to reflect Griffith prices.
Griffith: Top end prices to remain the same, lower end prices to increase.
Chimaera: Top end to increase slightly - Lower end prices to increase substantially.

Basically if you want a TVR in tip top condition then it'll cost you ~£40,000 for most models.
Lower end prices will start to increase as taking on a project car becomes more financially viable due to the potential value of a finished car project being worth more.
Eventually price differences of ~£30,000 (as in the Griffiths case) will decrease as ropey examples are restored.
I don't think anyone currently owning any TVR will loose money in the next 12-36months.
I don't think a new TVR model will affect prices of past models as the cars will be from different era's and potentially quite different due to the new cars having to meet new EU legislation etc.
Yep, that's pretty much my take on it too...

M

gutu12

606 posts

276 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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Rochester TVR said:
Just did an interesting exercise. What do you make of the prices below? (All from PH classifieds)



Tuscan
Top: £37,995
Middle: £26,872
Bottom: £15,750
Bespoke just sold a Tuscan Convertible priced at GBP45K. Tuscans mdo certainly seem to be on their way up but too few actually come up for sale to make an informed prediction imho.



jayemm89

4,035 posts

130 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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Restored over a period of NINE YEARS???

Does this not sound to anyone like some nightmare hellish restoration, with either an owner running out of money or a dealer being useless?

Anyone..?