Front brake upgrade options

[Mr Cerbera]

Incognegro said:

Resurrection!

As Im happy to stick with my 4bolt, braided setup I'll be upgrading to Brummies CL 305mm grooved front discs. The red stuffs can stay on for now as they are still so thick but then I'll be going either Mintex or Carbon Lorraine.

STRAW: CAMEL'S BACK.
Get CL and do a proper job from the beginning.

[Byker28i]

Mr Cerbera said:

STRAW: CAMEL'S BACK.
Get CL and do a proper job from the beginning.

I'll agree with that. Cl pads on the standard disks are a great improvement.

[Vee8ight]

I have Brummmie's discs and pads all round now, and have epic braking, works from cold, even better when warmed up.

[grahamn]

I have done 3 trackdays on Brummies upgraded discs now and confirm they are noticably better than the drilled I had on before, recomend them to anyone who is thinking of upgrading their brakes.

[fatjon]

buba said:

I have hi-spec 6 pot calipers awesome piece of kit

Hope so as mine is with Joolz having exactly that fitted along with new 335mm disks.

[Incognegro]

Ive gone for Reyland 2 piece 304x28 J hook pattern now once Brummie gets back to me I'll get some CLs then I dont track but a trip to Lemans and Monaco is on the cards

[Byker28i]

Interested - can you expand more on the details as I have a 4.2 with 4 bolt calipers.

[Incognegro]

Byker28i said:

Interested - can you expand more on the details as I have a 4.2 with 4 bolt calipers.

Sure I did send you a DM but to clarify my soon to go on setup I've gone for a custom Reyland 2 piece 304x29 disc with a 6.5mm caliper spacer. As pads will be updated as ive never really liked the squeaky red stuffs on here currently, I've spoken with Brummie and will be getting the RC+5 CL pads both front and rear.

Can't wait

[Byker28i]

Cheers looking forward to seeing images

[ukkid35]

I find it strange how many people are discussing front brake upgrades without considering how it might affect f/r brake balance.

[Supateg]

ukkid35 said:

I find it strange how many people are discussing front brake upgrades without considering how it might affect f/r brake balance.

Also the displacement of the master cylinder not forgetting the caliper piston specs for calculation, together with vehicle weight.

I agree big brakes only scratch the surface of correct tuning.

[Byker28i]

ukkid35 said:

I find it strange how many people are discussing front brake upgrades without considering how it might affect f/r brake balance.

I've got the original 294mm one piece disks with cl pads in 4pot calipers. On the rear I have brummie disks with cl pads.
As the front does the majority of the braking, and my car is weighted 52/48 front, then I'm interested in the options available, as it's generally thought with this setup there's not much can be done without swapping out to 6 pot.

[Incognegro]

Byker28i said:

I've got the original 294mm one piece disks with cl pads in 4pot calipers. On the rear I have brummie disks with cl pads.
As the front does the majority of the braking, and my car is weighted 52/48 front, then I'm interested in the options available, as it's generally thought with this setup there's not much can be done without swapping out to 6 pot.

Agreed! The 304 front setup was specced by TVR so its not going to do anything adverse. infact its probably the best option rather than changing to a 6 bolt (if your listening to the balancing scaremongering that is). Im going that way as Im having a 4.3 engine upgrade and see it as a must but if I did go 4.5 then I think i would then be more inclined to reach for the 6 bolt 330x30 option.

pics to come mate

[Jhonno]

ukkid35 said:

I find it strange how many people are discussing front brake upgrades without considering how it might affect f/r brake balance.

A lot of the advantage of big brakes is heat capacity as well though.. So over multiple stops rather than just outright braking. I think you could get a standard setup to stop as well as a big brake setup, but it wouldn't do it for as long..

[Incognegro]

After realy wanting to go bigger with brakes the Power say there is a 4.7 coming Ive just got myself a set of the CP6600 front callipers these can actually fit a 350mm disc inside an 18" wheel so thats exactly what I'll be doing once I've had them red painted

[Gazzab]

Stupid question but won't a disc of that size reduce the amount of pad friction material that comes into contact when you press the stop pedal?

[Incognegro]

No as the bell is also larger to accommodate the pad will cover the max it can if that makes sense? The better braking comes from the leverage applied further away rom the centre of disc (as I'm lead to believe lol)

[fatjon]

buba said:

I have hi-spec 6 pot calipers awesome piece of kit

Ditto. Face distorting stopping power and yet to fade them. Rears are standard but new AP calipers and disks. The back is already far too easy to lock, especially on a combined brake and heavy handed down change if you are so unwise.

[Gazzab]

Shame as they look amazing in red. What was the hub issue?

[Incognegro]

I really love them... but its the no one can just send me the correct adapter/mount bracket as they say TVR made so many hubs etc and its not a simple swap bla bla bla... then they want me to do all the leg work. just getting bored of it really