Front brake upgrade options

[Vee8ight]

I currently have 296mm x-drilled discs and CP5200 4 bolt calipers fitted to my Cerb.

I'm looking to upgrade mainly due to the cost of replacement discs to fit my calipers.

I have some options.....

I have some 330mm discs lined up at nearly £300, and either some 6 bolt CP5200's at £5-600 secondhand £700 new, or some CP6600 at £300.
Brake pads have already cost me £125

Or do I go the whole hog, and shell out £1500 for some 360mm discs and 6 pots?

Thanks for your opinions

Daz

[Gazzab]

What's your requirement..?

[Vee8ight]

Gazzab said:

What's your requirement..?

Trackdays

[RichV6]

using 330mm front discs, CP6600 calipers, renewed the rear as standard with ferodo ds2500 pads alround. Seems to be a more balanced system front to rear and they managed two full dry days at Spa. Get a little noisy when hot if theres any down side.

[Gazzab]

I have ap 330s and standard rear discs. Can't fault them. Can't see them struggling on a track. APM have done a few 6 pot (ap) conversions which are meant to be awesome. If you can afford it and feel you need it then go 6 pot.

[buba]

I have hi-spec 6 pot calipers awesome piece of kit

[robsco]

How easy would it be to upgrade to a Tuscan brake set-up I've been wondering? Awesome stopping power, and the best brake feel I've ever experienced.

[Vee8ight]

robsco said:

How easy would it be to upgrade to a Tuscan brake set-up I've been wondering? Awesome stopping power, and the best brake feel I've ever experienced.

I thought Tuscan and Cerbera used the same or similar setups?

[Vee8ight]

I completed the easiest job ever on the Cerb yesterday, rear brakes! New upgraded discs and CL5+ pads all from Brummie, cleaned up the handbrake shoes and mech, and my handbrake now works too.

[gruffalo]

Vee8ight said:

robsco said:

How easy would it be to upgrade to a Tuscan brake set-up I've been wondering? Awesome stopping power, and the best brake feel I've ever experienced.

I thought Tuscan and Cerbera used the same or similar setups?

I think the early Tuscans were similar.

I find the 6 bolt callipers with Pagid RS14's work really well and with the original rears have a great balance. I have loads of feel and they can lock a front wheel even with a good and hot track day tyre but really easy to modulate right on the limit of adhesion. I use the original bells with the AP 330X28mm discs.

Pads last around 10 track days and a years driving (8000 miles) before I change them but there is normally plenty left on the pads when I do change them.

Unless you are going to use slick's I don't think you will need any more braking efficiency as I certainly don't have the grip running good quality track day tyres.

[Basil Brush]

Vee8ight said:

I thought Tuscan and Cerbera used the same or similar setups?

Early Tuscans had the Cerb 4.2 setup, with one piece 291 front discs, with RR cars having the 4.5 bits.

[robsco]

My old 4.2 Cerb had solid vented discs, the Tuscan's discs were drilled with what looked like a larger caliper.

[Vee8ight]

robsco said:

My old 4.2 Cerb had solid vented discs, the Tuscan's discs were drilled with what looked like a larger caliper.

They're TVRs, anything is possible!

[Gazzab]

The solid on a 4.2 are likely the original Tvr set up for 4.2's. The drilled on a Tuscan could be the 322 version as fitted to later 4.5 cerberas (ie same calipers as earlier 4.5s but these had separate disc/bells from AP until the cheaper Tuscan in single piece were fitted).

[Vee8ight]

My Cerb 292 discs are x-drilled. Does the 5100 caliper look smaller than the 5200? I know the 6600 looks less 'meaty'

[Basil Brush]

robsco said:

My old 4.2 Cerb had solid vented discs, the Tuscan's discs were drilled with what looked like a larger caliper.

Until Sep '00, base Tuscans had the same 291mm solid discs. After Sep they moved to 304mm drilled discs with CP6600 calipers.

[Basti]

robsco said:

My old 4.2 Cerb had solid vented discs, the Tuscan's discs were drilled with what looked like a larger caliper.

Basil Brush said:

Until Sep '00, base Tuscans had the same 291mm solid discs. After Sep they moved to 304mm drilled discs with CP6600 calipers.

Here is Robs old Tuscans brake. They really are good.

[gruffalo]

The problem with drilled discs is that they are prone to cracking when used properly.

[Vee8ight]

gruffalo said:

The problem with drilled discs is that they are prone to cracking when used properly.

As mine have

[Incognegro]

Resurrection!

As Im happy to stick with my 4bolt, braided setup I'll be upgrading to Brummies CL 305mm grooved front discs. The red stuffs can stay on for now as they are still so thick but then I'll be going either Mintex or Carbon Lorraine.