AJP vs Speed 6

AJP vs Speed 6

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natben

2,743 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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fullpull said:
nemasis said:
personally i would be speed 6 all day long, but thats just me!
And me.
And me

DAVEY DEE

647 posts

155 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Unless your driving skills dictate otherwise (&most people THINK it does) you realistically not going to be able to use any performance difference between the cars.All are stupidly qquickIf price isnt an issue then drive both.

Vee8ight

734 posts

140 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Upgrading from a Chimp, best go for a speed 6 as an AJP maybe to fast for you.........getmecoat

Jhonno

5,779 posts

142 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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cerb4.5lee said:
fullpull said:
nemasis said:
personally i would be speed 6 all day long, but thats just me!
And me.
The speed six is smoother & revs more freely but its in ever other modern TVR...the AJP was only available in the Cerbera ...so do the Cerbera proud OP & buy the V8!
This..

PuffsBack

2,430 posts

226 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Slight twist on the question.

AJP or Power 4.3 Speed6

I only ask because the difference in price between a S6 and AJP is about the price of a S6 being rebuilt to 4.3 spec

ukkid35

6,187 posts

174 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Isn't the only real SpeedSix AJP8 4.5 adversary the FFF S6? (and doesn't that cost twice as much as a used 4.5?)

HellK9

255 posts

191 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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cerb4.5lee said:
The speed six is smoother & revs more freely but its in ever other modern TVR...the AJP was only available in the Cerbera ...so do the Cerbera proud OP & buy the V8!
And of course the reason we all bought a Cerbera is because we wanted a smoother engine....
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actually I wanted a fast, sexy, affordable drivers machine that has character. I've got that in oodles with the 4.5 V8.

natben

2,743 posts

232 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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DAVEY DEE said:
Unless your driving skills dictate otherwise (&most people THINK it does) you realistically not going to be able to use any performance difference between the cars.All are stupidly qquickIf price isnt an issue then drive both.
Spot on,

You would be very lucky in normal road conditions to notice any performance differences between the 4.0L, 4.2L or the 4.5L.

scotty_d

6,795 posts

195 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Vee8ight said:
Upgrading from a Chimp, best go for a speed 6 as an AJP maybe to fast for you.........getmecoat
Not the case at all, my red rose Tuscan sp6 was a faster car than my ajp cerbera!

scotty_d

6,795 posts

195 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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natben said:
Spot on,

You would be very lucky in normal road conditions to notice any performance differences between the 4.0L, 4.2L or the 4.5L.
Exactly this if you're pushing that hard on the public road you will get banned or hurt someone!

gruffalo

7,529 posts

227 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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ukkid35 said:
Isn't the only real SpeedSix AJP8 4.5 adversary the FFF S6? (and doesn't that cost twice as much as a used 4.5?)
I have to disagree with this, a STR8SIX 4.3, and yes there are differences to the Power 4.3, is an easy match for a standard 4.5 AJP if you are talking raw performance, if you are also talking about smoothness it is better.

I would still have the AJP however.

I did some side by side comparisons between a Tuscan with a 4.3 from Str8Six and my 4.7 AJP Cerbera, till around 110mph the Tuscan was slightly quicker, a few 10ths between 40 and 110, 110 to 130 then the AJP was significantly quicker, nearly a second. All measured at Snetterton using a VBox.

Vee8ight

734 posts

140 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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scotty_d said:
Vee8ight said:
Upgrading from a Chimp, best go for a speed 6 as an AJP maybe to fast for you.........getmecoat
Not the case at all, my red rose Tuscan sp6 was a faster car than my ajp cerbera!
Let's compare apples with apples? Tuscan is lighter. RR tuscan faster than a RR cerbera? I doubt it

blueg33

35,979 posts

225 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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m4tti said:
Speed Six as below.. case dismissed biggrin

Its being lapped by an 8 cylinder car smile

m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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blueg33 said:
Its being lapped by an 8 cylinder car smile
Not a tvr eight cylinder car. You should've gone to specsavers biggrin

blueg33

35,979 posts

225 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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m4tti said:
blueg33 said:
Its being lapped by an 8 cylinder car smile
Not a tvr eight cylinder car. You should've gone to specsavers biggrin
Indeed, not an 8 cyl TVR, but 8 cylinders neverthless.

FWIW I loved the speed 6 engine in my Tusc. The power was amazing, I am busy trying to understand why my 4.0 speed 6 could get close to 400bhp yet my 3.5 Lotus can only manage 300 frown. (Mind you the Lotus is much better to drive on corners and bumpy roads)

robsco

7,833 posts

177 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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scotty_d said:
Vee8ight said:
Upgrading from a Chimp, best go for a speed 6 as an AJP maybe to fast for you.........getmecoat
Not the case at all, my red rose Tuscan sp6 was a faster car than my ajp cerbera!
Goodness me, let's hope Tanguero doesn't spot this post! wink

rex

2,055 posts

267 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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gruffalo said:
I did some side by side comparisons between a Tuscan with a 4.3 from Str8Six and my 4.7 AJP Cerbera, till around 110mph the Tuscan was slightly quicker, a few 10ths between 40 and 110, 110 to 130 then the AJP was significantly quicker, nearly a second. All measured at Snetterton using a VBox.
The measurement that gave nearly a second quicker was from 70-130mph not 110 to 130.

Will look it up when I get home.

Although not a TVR owner my choice would be a speed six cerb with a 4.3 conversion. If this can be done for the price of a V8 Cerb without a conversion it is a billy bargain.

m4tti

5,427 posts

156 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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blueg33 said:
Indeed, not an 8 cyl TVR, but 8 cylinders neverthless.

FWIW I loved the speed 6 engine in my Tusc. The power was amazing, I am busy trying to understand why my 4.0 speed 6 could get close to 400bhp yet my 3.5 Lotus can only manage 300 frown. (Mind you the Lotus is much better to drive on corners and bumpy roads)
Could be a number of things.. head flow. The Toyota being twin cams per a head but narrower heads with smaller intake valves, presumably the 2GR-FE isnt running ITB's and tubular exhaust manifolds, likely less crank case pressure from the drysump system, Speed six revs higher as well.

Cider Andy

1,889 posts

226 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Mr Cerbera said:
...there is nothing more ego-boosting than meeting someone who admires the car and asks the questions "Is it a 6 or an 8 ?", "Is it a 4.2 or a 4.5 ?"...
Some years ago I was queuing for a ferry in Dunkerque when a Cerbera pulled up beside me. Deciding to impress the driver with my superior TVR knowledge, I asked him if it was a 4.2 or a 4.5.

"Neither" came the reply. It was Steve Heath in his LS powered car...

Mr Cerbera

5,035 posts

231 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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Cider Andy said:
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"Neither" came the reply. It was Steve Heath in his LS powered car...
Ha Ha ! There's always some smart Alec waiting to burst one's bubble laugh