AJP vs Speed 6
Discussion
robsco said:
scotty_d said:
Vee8ight said:
Upgrading from a Chimp, best go for a speed 6 as an AJP maybe to fast for you.........
Not the case at all, my red rose Tuscan sp6 was a faster car than my ajp cerbera!Still neither are likely to be as fast as my new 4.7 so why would I care?
Tanguero said:
robsco said:
scotty_d said:
Vee8ight said:
Upgrading from a Chimp, best go for a speed 6 as an AJP maybe to fast for you.........
Not the case at all, my red rose Tuscan sp6 was a faster car than my ajp cerbera!Still neither are likely to be as fast as my new 4.7 so why would I care?
The ajp will always command a premium, as will its engine rebuild.Parts are now becoming as rare as poop from a childs toy, which may be a factor in deciding as more & more ajps are now needing attention.Future part availability I'd go sp6.
Sound wise its personal preference...so I'd say stick with the Chim.
Kudos & bragging rights go to the ajp.
Performance goes to the best driver.
But dont forget...blue is the fastest in any engine!
Sound wise its personal preference...so I'd say stick with the Chim.
Kudos & bragging rights go to the ajp.
Performance goes to the best driver.
But dont forget...blue is the fastest in any engine!
Tanguero said:
robsco said:
Aah, a sense of humour failure Peter! I expected as much.
I just got back from dropping my Cerb with Andy at APM for a 4.7 engine rebuild!!! Believe me there is nothing wrong with my sense of humor This is my 4.5 lagging a bit behind a couple of Speed Sixes, due a smidge to me being late to get the power on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YPLnzmJyQ&fe...
And from 1:50 on this is the same blue Tuscan following me and getting left a bit when late on the power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNfnXWCYzQg#t=121
Conclusion? In the real world they all perform the same. Buy whichever you like best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YPLnzmJyQ&fe...
And from 1:50 on this is the same blue Tuscan following me and getting left a bit when late on the power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNfnXWCYzQg#t=121
Conclusion? In the real world they all perform the same. Buy whichever you like best.
jamieduff1981 said:
Conclusion? In the real world they all perform the same. Buy whichever you like best.
Exactly this. Just looked at the figures again from Str8six tuscan 4.3 conversion and Cerb 4.7 conversion with readings taken at Snetterton on the same day. Sunny cold and dry.
At all 10 mph speed increments eg 70-80 80-90 etc there is between 0.01s and 0.2 seconds difference in the fastest times (in the Cerbs favour)with a variability of upto 0.2s on different laps. Tuscan engine seems particularly quick at 90-110 where it is quicker than the Cerb.
Result in real world is no discernible difference.
4.7 is markedly quicker at the 130mph-135mph with a 0.25s difference between these speeds. This was put in to make Gruffalo feel better on his birthday. Happy birthday mate.
Walford said:
Go for the one that sounds the best
Both great. I am a 4.5 AJP owner but I must admit that sometimes I think the Speed Six pips it on sound.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VshqCSPjVcg
Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw9kUoayjj8
P.S. apparently V8s corner better
jamieduff1981 said:
Walford said:
Go for the one that sounds the best
Both great. I am a 4.5 AJP owner but I must admit that sometimes I think the Speed Six pips it on sound.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VshqCSPjVcg
Vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw9kUoayjj8
P.S. apparently V8s corner better
rex said:
jamieduff1981 said:
Conclusion? In the real world they all perform the same. Buy whichever you like best.
Exactly this. Just looked at the figures again from Str8six tuscan 4.3 conversion and Cerb 4.7 conversion with readings taken at Snetterton on the same day. Sunny cold and dry.
At all 10 mph speed increments eg 70-80 80-90 etc there is between 0.01s and 0.2 seconds difference in the fastest times (in the Cerbs favour)with a variability of upto 0.2s on different laps. Tuscan engine seems particularly quick at 90-110 where it is quicker than the Cerb.
Result in real world is no discernible difference.
4.7 is markedly quicker at the 130mph-135mph with a 0.25s difference between these speeds. This was put in to make Gruffalo feel better on his birthday. Happy birthday mate.
CHIMV8 said:
Spoken to a few people/dealers/mechanics on this subject.
Only issue i see is the Speed 6, seems to be less desirable and so generally sells for less money than the AJP models
Which means you'll get more car for your money with the speed 6. Only issue i see is the Speed 6, seems to be less desirable and so generally sells for less money than the AJP models
I initially only considered the V8 but now I'd be more than happy to have a 6.
Nothing wrong with a SP6 in Cerbera I tried 8 or 9 verbs before buying my SP6. I went for the SP6 because I got a newer car with better spec than any AJP I could find at the time. Absolutely love it. And it was about 4 grand cheaper than the AJP that I might have got and 4 years newer.
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