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Iv bought a 4.5 with a overheating issue, when Ive got it home symptoms are water in oil strong smell of petrol in water and pumping water out of 1&3 cylinders, very poor leak down on these with air entering cooling system compression test not great on rest but all almost identical, Fluids of all types all over garage floor, water, oil, power steering fluid emulsified oil, gearbox oil, diff oil, milage is 35k, and recent history in a nut shell is two sets of head gaskets fitted in last couple of months and evidence of KSeal in expansion tank, so fingers crossed engine out in the morning and heads off sat morning, I have spoke to 3 dealers , and due to not knowing what is the problem is prices start at the head gaskets but could spiral if other nasties are found I have decided to investigate this myself as money is an issue and dont want a car and engine in bits stuck behind the eight ball, so here starts a post I will put some photos on when I work out how to do it, Many thanks to all PHs who have given me advice and info on the car and to APM , Track v Road , RND Engineering, Who have been fantastic
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This sounds like an interesting project! Lots of pictures will be required and keep us updated.
Most forum members will be drawing in sharp breaths as the issues affecting this poor little cerb have been posted by the previous owner. This and the costs of a what if engine build could run to.
If your a true pistonheads cerbera enthusiast then you will just shrug the niggles off and hopefully receive lots of help from knowledgeable members on here.
What's the plan?
Strip and inspect then ship it off for rebuild or diy?
What advise were you given by the specialists ?
I see your not far away from me, I'm in Doncaster.
Any welcome to the madhouse!
This sounds like an interesting project! Lots of pictures will be required and keep us updated.
Most forum members will be drawing in sharp breaths as the issues affecting this poor little cerb have been posted by the previous owner. This and the costs of a what if engine build could run to.
If your a true pistonheads cerbera enthusiast then you will just shrug the niggles off and hopefully receive lots of help from knowledgeable members on here.
What's the plan?
Strip and inspect then ship it off for rebuild or diy?
What advise were you given by the specialists ?
I see your not far away from me, I'm in Doncaster.
Any welcome to the madhouse!
Thanks , Im in Doncaster too, the advice has been about what issues could be in there what to look for in the way of these engines, at this stage the car looks quite nice with only the pas door and rear wing where the paint looks a little thin, chassis is very good , I dont want to go overboard on this at the moment, and lets see how we get on as to where the engine will be put back together, Its always nice to get some documentation on engine work as it add to the car but I do plan to keep it so not sure, cheers
Hello and welcome.
I appreciate that money is an issue and it's always easy to spend other peoples' money on forums. Should you need help though, you really can't go wrong with APM and even if you do keep the car and never realise any extra resale value, you will have no worries from that engine again.
Keep posting, and I look forward to reading your updates tonight and tomorrow to see what you find when the heads come off.
I appreciate that money is an issue and it's always easy to spend other peoples' money on forums. Should you need help though, you really can't go wrong with APM and even if you do keep the car and never realise any extra resale value, you will have no worries from that engine again.
Keep posting, and I look forward to reading your updates tonight and tomorrow to see what you find when the heads come off.
steve320ise said:
Iv bought a 4.5 with a overheating issue, when Ive got it home symptoms are water in oil strong smell of petrol in water and pumping water out of 1&3 cylinders, very poor leak down on these with air entering cooling system compression test not great on rest but all almost identical, Fluids of all types all over garage floor, water, oil, power steering fluid emulsified oil, gearbox oil, diff oil, milage is 35k, and recent history in a nut shell is two sets of head gaskets fitted in last couple of months and evidence of KSeal in expansion tank, so fingers crossed engine out in the morning and heads off sat morning, I have spoke to 3 dealers , and due to not knowing what is the problem is prices start at the head gaskets but could spiral if other nasties are found I have decided to investigate this myself as money is an issue and dont want a car and engine in bits stuck behind the eight ball, so here starts a post I will put some photos on when I work out how to do it, Many thanks to all PHs who have given me advice and info on the car and to APM , Track v Road , RND Engineering, Who have been fantastic
Another 4.5 owner from Doncaster here, Donny must be turning into cerb central. I'm still running in a rebuilt engine from last year. Mine suffered the same issues as your's and I was hoping it was the head gasket, unfortunately not! a garage would charge about £1.5-£2k for a gasket change and rebuild heading to £8k. It's the bits you also change whilst doing the rebuild like fuel hoses and silicon hoses etc that pushes it over £10k. I don't think in your case that it will be the head gasket due to the overheating issue. At least you've got the offer of three cerb owners willing to offer advise if needed. There was a similar case to this about 5 years ago. The engine had been to multiple different engine builders and every time it failed with head gasket issues soon after.
In the end the engine was shipped to STR8SIX, Jason stripped it and found the fault to be that one liner was sat .004 of an inch too low in the block, multiple other specialists had missed this.
It is because of this sort of attention to detail that I always take my car there for all work and in 5 years I have never found them wanting.
In the end the engine was shipped to STR8SIX, Jason stripped it and found the fault to be that one liner was sat .004 of an inch too low in the block, multiple other specialists had missed this.
It is because of this sort of attention to detail that I always take my car there for all work and in 5 years I have never found them wanting.
waveydavey1000 said:
Definitely need a Cerb meet in Donny as I'm only in Pontefract. Maybe we could get together and give Steve320i a hand?
That's close enough I'm quite happy to organise if people want to PM me with dates to avoid/ contact e mail details happy to assist Steve320i his garage could be the first meeting spot.jackwibble said:
waveydavey1000 said:
Definitely need a Cerb meet in Donny as I'm only in Pontefract. Maybe we could get together and give Steve320i a hand?
That's close enough I'm quite happy to organise if people want to PM me with dates to avoid/ contact e mail details happy to assist Steve320i his garage could be the first meeting spot.Gassing Station | Cerbera | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff