The Start of my Cerbera Experience

The Start of my Cerbera Experience

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SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

113 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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Ok, so first of all a big greeting to all other members, especially fellow TVR owners.....

I recently took the decision to sell my sport bike, and take the plunge into the world of TVR ownership. This is my first post, and i guess my intentions are to keep an ongoing log of my experiences, and expenses, perhaps for posterity, or perhaps just for the interest of other members or future buyers. Anyway....

So having returned home t discover my youngest brother had purchased a Chimaera, i decided it was time i grew up a little bit, and so it was out with the bike, and in with my favourite TVR, the Cerbera. Of course it had to be a 4.5, as i guess i wanted the most powerful i could get.... After a few months of browsing the classifieds, i had pretty much resigned myself to looking for a good clean example. Ideally i wanted it to be a 4.5, with the modern headlights and tuscan seats, and in a tasteful colour scheme inside and out. It was looking like i would be forking out in the region of £20-25K for such a vehicle, and around the start of October, such an example appeared down in Sussex, with an asking price of £25K.
Just when i was just about to bite the bullet, an fresh advert appeared for a late1997 4.5, in Viper blue, with a black leather interior, previously owned by PH member JonBarrett.
Three days later and she was mine.




At the point of sale, Jon was quite open and honest about the condition of the vehicle. Bad points were several small holes in the outriggers, and some general surface corrosion on the chassis. A/C wasn't working, nor the stereo, and there was some pretty severe gravel rash across the front. At the time of purchase the weather was appalling and so any sort of inspection of the underside was out of the question. Good points were the price, which was further reduced given the obvious need for outrigger replacement. Also interior seems excellent, with only very slight wear on the driver bolster, and drivers footpad.



The drive back from East London to Devon was equally wet, and so taken very cautiously given the cars reputation. However, i the following days, as the weather cleared, despite the performance being impressive, i couldn't help but feel that it was not as blisteringly fast as i was expecting, so im guessing the power is a little down. Service history shows the last rolling road to be about 4 years ago.



At this point, luxury outdoor cover from Hamilton Classic purchased, and battery charger/maintainer.
Cost £200.

So anyway, a week after purchase the car went to TVRSSW, in Wellington. Here is the list of faults they came back with, (those deemed urgent are starred):

Temperature / Oil light not working
Paint coming off rear badge
Washer bottle cap missing
Air Con not working
Front tyres worn on inner edge (OK)
OSF wheel bent
  • Front discs corroded on inner edge and need skimming **
Water hoses ( rubber) soft
Water hoses (metal) corroded
  • Brake pipe nuts corroded **
Water loss (pipes)
OSF and NSF top arms touching chassis
  • OS and NS outriggers corroded**
  • Surface corrosion on chassis **
  • Shocks and springs corroded **
  • Diff bushes split **
  • Slave cylinder slight leak **
Water leaks in boot and car
Faulty alarm

All the work has now been completed, having been with them for about a month. Outriggers have been replaced, and the chassis de rusted, repaired where necessary, cleaned, treated, etc. I decided to upgrade shocks to Nitron units, as apparently these are the best. A/C is now working. All hoses are now silicon and all discs skimmed + braided brake lines. Polybushes on diff. Badges refurbished. New slave cylinder, and a few other little jobs.

Total of all work : £5750.





Other extra purchases : Polished handbrake lever, polished fuel cap. Clear indicator kit. New dash button badges. Bonnet rubber mushrooms.

Cost : ~£300

Car is now going to storage until my next return to the country....
Booked in for headlight and taillamp conversion at Central TVR in the Spring.
Then it will be off to Austec for performance headers, sports exhaust and decats, a short induction kit and then remap.

On another note, if anyone has made it this far without falling to sleep, i have a question. The alloy wheels appear to be SP12s, indeed it says SP12 on the rim, however they only have 11 spokes. All images i see of SP12 rims elsewhere, show, as the name would suggest, them having 12 spokes. Any suggestions as to the origin of these potential imposters?

Gazzab

21,093 posts

282 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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Congrats and well done on 'saving' a cerb :-)
Was the body taken off to fix the chassis? In situ can't really be done.

SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

113 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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No, the body was lifted slightly i believe, but not removed.
I guess as is often the case i was presented with two options.
The cheaper and quicker one being to replace the outriggers in situ, and cleanup the chassis as best as possible with the body on. I realise this leaves substantial areas inaccessible to both inspection and repair.
The other option being the body off full chassis refurb. I was quoted between £6-7K for this option, plus the inevitable common sense extras to have performed whist in pieces would have probably raised the cost to over £10K.
TVRSSW recommended the former. Apparently, from what they could see, the main body of the chassis was suffering from nothing more than some light superficial corrosion. Nothing penetrating, and nothing requiring any welding.
SO whilst not the ideal solution, it seemed the most sensible to go with the cleanup and protect for the time being....

Edited by SharkFodder on Sunday 30th November 23:23

ScottyOkinawa

46 posts

128 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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Welcome to the site and the world of Cerbera ownership.... and Greetings from Japan!
You certantly jumped in with both feet and are starting better then I did/could have.

As far as the wheels go, that does seem funny that they are SP12's with 11 spokes...
Here: http://www.pistonheads.com/Ginetta/default.asp?sto... There is a Pistonheads news article with the 'New' SP12's and that picture has 12 spokes..

Initially I was going to say that my Cerb has spiders on it, and although spiders have 8 legs, it only has 7 spokes...
Never seen SP12's in person so I'm a bit ignorant there..

None the none.. hope your able to enjoy your car soon.

ScottyO

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

140 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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As Gazza says, well done. There's no arguing with all the "buy on condition" advice - it's perfectly sensible. If everyone did that the numbers would wither away rapidly though. Luckily this car seems to be with a realistic new owner who is willing to do what is needed smile

gruffalo

7,521 posts

226 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Welcome to the club, we are an easily recognised buch at any TVR meet.

We have the biggest smiles:-)

Incognegro

1,560 posts

133 months

Saturday 10th January 2015
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Hi mate,welcome to the team.

Just to let you know they are not genuine SP12s they should have 12 spokes also the inner concave has a more gentle curve and the spokes do not sit flush with the rim edge... The tips of them are slighly recessed by a few mm

Hope this info helps


SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

113 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Ok....

So all recent work now completed at CentralTVR. Thankyou Adrian for what looks like an amazing job.
Headlamp conversion to full HID, Quad tail light conversion, refurbished alloys in shadow chrome, new bonnet badge, and a good polish to top it all off!

Looking rather sexy even if i do say so myself!


sonnylad

1,158 posts

225 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Looking nice and shiney and a real nice blue, is it a regular Blue that TVR use or more of a one off.

Haha just noticed it's Viper Blue.

Jhonno

5,774 posts

141 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Beautiful.. What wheels are they?!

SharkFodder

Original Poster:

18 posts

113 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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They are 18" Speedline Corse Turinis

Jhonno

5,774 posts

141 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Ah of course.. Thought I recognised them. Suit it!

stuthemong

2,275 posts

217 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Very nice indeed.

I really should stop looking in this forum again. I feel itchy for another.

wongthecorrupter

2,414 posts

171 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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I think they look so much better with the single headlamps. imho

PGNCerbera

2,934 posts

166 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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Looks bloody brilliant.

Great colour.

oscrim

32 posts

117 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Love it mate... Looks so much nicer than that rainy day you picked her up. Love the quad lights too. Just have to wait a few months to get back behind the wheel eh?!

r8black

1,405 posts

129 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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wongthecorrupter said:
I think they look so much better with the single headlamps. imho
+1

But still a gorgeous looking machine.

Incognegro

1,560 posts

133 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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r8black said:
wongthecorrupter said:
I think they look so much better with the single headlamps. imho
+1

But still a gorgeous looking machine.
Disagree... Lovely colour and twin headlamps with HIDs is certainly an improvement if it didnt come from factory with them done! imo

Work don at Central too so cant go wrong Adrian, Andy and the lads are a top bunch and fully trusted when I need tweaks.

Great effort with the Cerb enjoy it!

robsco

7,829 posts

176 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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r8black said:
wongthecorrupter said:
I think they look so much better with the single headlamps. imho
+1

But still a gorgeous looking machine.
+2

So much prettier with singles.

r8black

1,405 posts

129 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Any excuse for a pic