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Following the sad events of selling my cerbera. I am now looking for something to replace it.
And I kind of fell into a black hole
It's a pretty tough act to follow and the new car has got some pretty big shoes to fill.
Sooo… What would you buy if you were to replace your Cerb?
I've got about £50k budget MAX. Preferably less, so I'll have some left for a classic project
It HAS to be RWD, not too heavy and preferably a manual and it must be a bit dramatic
I need no comfort but a roof would be nice so the Caterhams and Ariel are not an option I'm afraid
However due to the wonderful world that is Belgian Tax, It has to be a small engine pretending to be a big one
Max. 3l to keep it affordable and CO2 can't be too high either.
Per example an 2014 Exige S3 its about 4000€ registration tax (one time fee) and about 1700€ a year.
I'm not willing to waste that kind of money on Taxes.
So far I've got an Elise SC/Exige S2 (yeey manual! and I do prefer a supercharger over a turbo)
Or a Alfa 4C (achingly beautiful but flappy paddles and turbo are a bit less yeey )
Hit me with you best Ideas!!
And I kind of fell into a black hole
It's a pretty tough act to follow and the new car has got some pretty big shoes to fill.
Sooo… What would you buy if you were to replace your Cerb?
I've got about £50k budget MAX. Preferably less, so I'll have some left for a classic project
It HAS to be RWD, not too heavy and preferably a manual and it must be a bit dramatic
I need no comfort but a roof would be nice so the Caterhams and Ariel are not an option I'm afraid
However due to the wonderful world that is Belgian Tax, It has to be a small engine pretending to be a big one
Max. 3l to keep it affordable and CO2 can't be too high either.
Per example an 2014 Exige S3 its about 4000€ registration tax (one time fee) and about 1700€ a year.
I'm not willing to waste that kind of money on Taxes.
So far I've got an Elise SC/Exige S2 (yeey manual! and I do prefer a supercharger over a turbo)
Or a Alfa 4C (achingly beautiful but flappy paddles and turbo are a bit less yeey )
Hit me with you best Ideas!!
Jooles81 said:
I would have proposed a cobra replica of some sortsort, but the engine won't do...
Do you want a road car or a track day car?
Ariel atom ?
Caterham?
Dax?
Another tvr of some sort?
Julien
Well it would be my daily az well, so i'd like a roof. Not much more, bit a roof is nice Do you want a road car or a track day car?
Ariel atom ?
Caterham?
Dax?
Another tvr of some sort?
Julien
Tvr's are not an option.
You can't register Tvr's here. That's why i sold the Cerb
Twinkam said:
I always found the S52/54 engine lacking.My mother has one in her wiesmann and it find it quite gutless.
Even in a lighter car.
The Cerb spoiled me
With your budget, I'd be looking here
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/n...
No idea about that particular car, but having been given a couple of PAX laps round Spa in an M400 (which is not so far away from a GTO-3R), I would seriously consider one of these. The engine sounds unexciting on paper (only relative to an AJP8), but that just makes them much easier to get through emissions which may be an issue for you.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/n...
No idea about that particular car, but having been given a couple of PAX laps round Spa in an M400 (which is not so far away from a GTO-3R), I would seriously consider one of these. The engine sounds unexciting on paper (only relative to an AJP8), but that just makes them much easier to get through emissions which may be an issue for you.
A 2014 Alpina D3 or D4 would be within budget. I had the previous 2l version. A bit lardy, but what a car, unbelievable performance for a diesel. Suspension the best I have ever experienced for country roads rough and smooth. And I can't even imagine the torque for the 3l version. 45 mpg easily achievable. Only problem - so deceptively fast, too smooth for some tastes.
Or, stirring it a little, go back to a Cerbera Speed Six!!
Or, stirring it a little, go back to a Cerbera Speed Six!!
Sorry, I had not seen the bit about the roof...
How about an Elise / exige / Europe of the previous kinds, especially the versions with a compressor? Thought about an evora, but the engine may he too large? If you're open for Japanese stuff, maybe an nsx or supra (too heavy?)? A wiessmann would have been a good call, but if you don'tdon't likelike the engine... I'm afraid you'll have a hard time finding an engine as interesting as the ajp, especially less than 3 liters...
Julien
How about an Elise / exige / Europe of the previous kinds, especially the versions with a compressor? Thought about an evora, but the engine may he too large? If you're open for Japanese stuff, maybe an nsx or supra (too heavy?)? A wiessmann would have been a good call, but if you don'tdon't likelike the engine... I'm afraid you'll have a hard time finding an engine as interesting as the ajp, especially less than 3 liters...
Julien
TVRinBFG said:
Hi Nils - I'd guess the Noble would be registered using a sub-MAC same as your TVR, does anybody know? Out of interest, how muxh would the registration tax and road tax be on a 1.8 Elise SC in Belguim?
Yes I'm afraid I'll encounter the same problems with the Noble as with the TVR.I've never seen one in Belgium.
A 2008 S2 Elise SC is pretty affordable. Registration tax is around €465 and the annual tax is cheap as chips at €310
A 2014 S3 Elise SC is a bit more expensive. Registration tax is around €1860 and the annual tax is the same at €310
A 2014 4c is a lot cheaper. Registration tax is €484 and the annual tax is just €267.
Just to compare a 2014 Corvette Stingray has a Registration tax €10450 and the annual tax is a staggering €4736
NilsP said:
Yes I'm afraid I'll encounter the same problems with the Noble as with the TVR.
I've never seen one in Belgium.
A 2008 S2 Elise SC is pretty affordable. Registration tax is around €465 and the annual tax is cheap as chips at €310
A 2014 S3 Elise SC is a bit more expensive. Registration tax is around €1860 and the annual tax is the same at €310
A 2014 4c is a lot cheaper. Registration tax is €484 and the annual tax is just €267.
Just to compare a 2014 Corvette Stingray has a Registration tax €10450 and the annual tax is a staggering €4736
We need to get out the EU quick then as this extorsion will be heading our way soon no doubtI've never seen one in Belgium.
A 2008 S2 Elise SC is pretty affordable. Registration tax is around €465 and the annual tax is cheap as chips at €310
A 2014 S3 Elise SC is a bit more expensive. Registration tax is around €1860 and the annual tax is the same at €310
A 2014 4c is a lot cheaper. Registration tax is €484 and the annual tax is just €267.
Just to compare a 2014 Corvette Stingray has a Registration tax €10450 and the annual tax is a staggering €4736
snatchbox said:
How about Jaguar F type 3.0S
Loved how it looked, drove it, didn't like it.I was really disappointed because I really wanted to love it.
But it was just to damn heavy.
But I think I'm missing the point on that car.
Probably is a marvelous long distance cruiser.
But just 2 cups short of a sports car to me.
I know I'm difficult
NilsP said:
TVRinBFG said:
Hi Nils - I'd guess the Noble would be registered using a sub-MAC same as your TVR, does anybody know? Out of interest, how muxh would the registration tax and road tax be on a 1.8 Elise SC in Belguim?
Yes I'm afraid I'll encounter the same problems with the Noble as with the TVR.I've never seen one in Belgium.
A 2008 S2 Elise SC is pretty affordable. Registration tax is around €465 and the annual tax is cheap as chips at €310
A 2014 S3 Elise SC is a bit more expensive. Registration tax is around €1860 and the annual tax is the same at €310
A 2014 4c is a lot cheaper. Registration tax is €484 and the annual tax is just €267.
Just to compare a 2014 Corvette Stingray has a Registration tax €10450 and the annual tax is a staggering €4736
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