Re wire

[Stwdv]

Hi guys, a bit of advice please
Chassis and engine complete, body on and now to tackle the interior.
Behind the dash and around the column looks like a birds nest.
There also looks like some peculiar coloured cables and definitely dodgy connectors.
I think some of it is the immobilise but I'm guessing.
I'm not in the game to totally retire but would like to sort the mess.
Should I take the desk out?
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated I know some have totally re wired?
Thanks in advance

[yknot]

Stwdv said:

Hi guys, a bit of advice please
Chassis and engine complete, body on and now to tackle the interior.
Behind the dash and around the column looks like a birds nest.
There also looks like some peculiar coloured cables and definitely dodgy connectors.
I think some of it is the immobilise but I'm guessing.
I'm not in the game to totally retire but would like to sort the mess.
Should I take the desk out?
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated I know some have totally re wired?
Thanks in advance

Can recommend 'total retirement' although removing my 'desk' would be a bit extreme!!

[Stwdv]

Predictive text drives me mad!!😡
I expect you guessed?
Dash, and re wire? Or maybe I should just retire😄👍🍺

[Penelope Stopit]

Unfortunately for you there are no choices
Everything out is the way forward
Take a look at a beautiful picture in the below topic
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[Alan Whitaker]

Don't just rip it out, separate the wires and label them up, if you can take pictures as well, do one circuit at a time. If you just cut them out you will have a big task on your hands

[Steve_D]

You are looking at a very big job to replace the wiring so unless it is very bad I would suggest just checking each wire and repairing where required and fitting new connectors again if required.
There is not much room behind the S dash so don't be surprised if you end up not actually gaining anything in the tidying stakes.
Do replace and test all the dash illumination bulbs before you button up as you don't want to have to go back in.

Steve

[Penelope Stopit]

Steve_D said:

You are looking at a very big job to replace the wiring so unless it is very bad I would suggest just checking each wire and repairing where required and fitting new connectors again if required.
There is not much room behind the S dash so don't be surprised if you end up not actually gaining anything in the tidying stakes.
Do replace and test all the dash illumination bulbs before you button up as you don't want to have to go back in.

Steve

I need to know how the OP can check every wire without pulling the dashboard out
Than you in advance

[phillpot]

Penelope Stopit said:

I need to know ..................

That is on a need to know basis, and can only be revealed to fellow owners.

But I would suggest the op's comment "go back in" would imply take the dash out, again?

[Penelope Stopit]

phillpot said:

Penelope Stopit said:

I need to know ..................

That is on a need to know basis, and can only be revealed to fellow owners.

But I would suggest the op's comment "go back in" would imply take the dash out, again?

I don't understand your post

[glenrobbo]

Hi Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms/Dr/Prof/ Whatever Stopit,

Come and sit down, relax and have a virtual drink, and tell us a little about yourself.

We know so little about you, except that you are a very accomplished expert with electrics and you have obviously freely given your time and expertise to help and advise quite a few of us on here, which is greatly appreciated, but also a little puzzling.

Your initial approach to this forum was a little brusque, which one or two people may have taken the wrong way, but I for one, am intrigued.

Over to you then...
( If you wish to remain an enigma, that's fine, but we're a friendly bunch on here. )
With respect
Glen

[Steve_D]

Penelope Stopit said:

Steve_D said:

You are looking at a very big job to replace the wiring so unless it is very bad I would suggest just checking each wire and repairing where required and fitting new connectors again if required.
There is not much room behind the S dash so don't be surprised if you end up not actually gaining anything in the tidying stakes.
Do replace and test all the dash illumination bulbs before you button up as you don't want to have to go back in.

Steve

I need to know how the OP can check every wire without pulling the dashboard out
Than you in advance

When did I infer you could do the job without taking the dash out?

Another suggestion to the OP is to replace all the warning lights in the centre cluster. They are a mix of red, green and one blue but are a sealed unit with no replaceable bulb.

If one blows you have to remove the whole dash to change it. Replace them with the type that has a removable bulb holder like


Steve

[v8s4me]

Take the dash off. Do the job properly, do it once

If you're having trouble getting to sleep later, read THIS

[GreenV8S]

Steve_D said:

If one blows you have to remove the whole dash to change it.
Steve

I've never needed to replace one of those on an S so I may be reading too much into that image, but that picture doesn't show any external latches so I'd expect them to pull out from the front. Doesn't that work?

[Steve_D]

GreenV8S said:

Steve_D said:

If one blows you have to remove the whole dash to change it.
Steve

I've never needed to replace one of those on an S so I may be reading too much into that image, but that picture doesn't show any external latches so I'd expect them to pull out from the front. Doesn't that work?

The cluster of lamps are fitted in a steel panel (along with the instruments) which is part of the main dash. In front of all the lamps is an etched panel with the symbols (ign, oil, flash etc.). This panel is glued to the back of the 'Veneer' panel.
It may just be possible to remove the whole instrument cluster to get at the lamps but not without first removing the steering column along with the drivers seat.

Steve

[GreenV8S]

Yikes, sounds like a nightmare. You have to take the dash out and unglue the panel just to replace a bulb? Another winning design by TVR !

[v8s4me]

Steve_D said:

...It may just be possible to remove the whole instrument cluster to get at the lamps but not without first removing the steering column along with the drivers seat...Steve

You don't have to remove the steering column, you can get away with undoing the two big bolts which hold the column bracket to the tub. The wheel & column will then drop away leaving enough space to slide the dash moulding forwards (having undone the large screws up near the bottom of the windscreen moulding). Removing the steering wheel and driver's seat will help a lot but are not essential. I'd definitely remove them though if I had to do the job again as it makes access easier and avoids damaging either of them. Also, don't forget to support the steering column with a loop of wire or something.

[Stwdv]

Thanks all, sounds like a dash out job, there is no interior in it and the column is out already

[Steve_D]

v8s4me said:

Steve_D said:

...It may just be possible to remove the whole instrument cluster to get at the lamps but not without first removing the steering column along with the drivers seat...Steve

You don't have to remove the steering column, you can get away with undoing the two big bolts which hold the column bracket to the tub. The wheel & column will then drop away leaving enough space to slide the dash moulding forwards (having undone the large screws up near the bottom of the windscreen moulding). Removing the steering wheel and driver's seat will help a lot but are not essential. I'd definitely remove them though if I had to do the job again as it makes access easier and avoids damaging either of them. Also, don't forget to support the steering column with a loop of wire or something.

I was referring to removing the instrument cluster without removing the dash or 'veneer' panel. In that case the column is really in the way as you will be working upside down in the footwell.

Steve

[Alan Whitaker]

phillpot said:

That is on a need to know basis, and can only be revealed to fellow owners.

But I would suggest the op's comment "go back in" would imply take the dash out, again?

Just seen this
If you read the question you will see it was in response to Steve D reply, he was just asking how you could repair and change connectors with the dash in.
Not the response I would expect this forum

Alan

[Penelope Stopit]

Steve_D
I hope this helps, below is your original post that mentions there is not much room behind the dash, if the dash was removed from the vehicle there would be plenty of room. Your post mentioning not much room behind the dash suggests that the dash is fitted in the vehicle
I posted
[b]I need to know how the OP can check every wire without pulling the dashboard out
Thank you in advance[/b]
You replied with When did I infer you could do the job without taking the dash out?

Steve_D said:

You are looking at a very big job to replace the wiring so unless it is very bad I would suggest just checking each wire and repairing where required and fitting new connectors again if required.
There is not much room behind the S dash so don't be surprised if you end up not actually gaining anything in the tidying stakes.
Steve

Steve_D said:

When did I infer you could do the job without taking the dash out?

I don't understand