Next car purchase

Next car purchase

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nh92

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30 posts

84 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Looking to purchase my next car before the end of summer this year, I have thought long and hard what to go for as regards to reliability and usability day to day and running costs, I am undecided between Cerbera, Chimaera, Jaguar XF/S Type/XK, AMG CLS/CLK/S/E/C, Porsche 996, Kit car, with many more to choose from I just want best advice on Pros/cons of each really as never owned such cars, which would be most sensible I guess is the question I should be asking. Anyone with an opinion ??

Outl4w

697 posts

146 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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My Cerb is great!

robsco

7,822 posts

175 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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If you want something reliable that you could use every day, I'd rule out the Cerbera.

Jhonno

5,762 posts

140 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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If you are good at DIY you can daily a Cerb imo. It will be expensive in fuel, and servicing costs compared to others.

Quite an eclectic mix of cars there..

Thekraken

91 posts

99 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Hmmm....it depends on what you want....I'd discount the jags and the mercs straight away....don't think that the 996 will be ultra reliable they have their own issues and cost just as much to sort when it's big. And the 996 is the spud of the 911's.

Best unbiased advice though is go drive a few ..... and what ever makes you smile the most....buy that!!



PGNSagaris

2,926 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Thekraken said:
...don't think that the 996 will be ultra reliable they have their own issues and cost just as much to sort when it's big. And the 996 is the spud of the 911's.
oi, I resemble that comment wink. Seriously though, I used my first 996 in 2010 as a daily. 23k miles in 13 months. No issues. Currently been using 996's as a daily since 2015 with no major issues at all. And servicing and maintenance is relatively cheap. The upgrade drug, however, is expensive.

I also ran a Cerb for two years. No way would I entertain one as a daily/only car. Life would get very expensive, very quick. And it would annoy you. And make a sensational car less fabulous and more of a chore.

A TVR is way more more special than a 996 C2 or C4 but the 996 is a far better daily car. Buy from someone respected and enjoy it!!

nh92

Original Poster:

30 posts

84 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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So far then I'm steered towards the 996, and cerbera 4.5, as it`ll be my first performance motor might be sensible to go with a Merc, or the 996....

Intend to drive daily, and do long trips without fail, and with a many bad stories of TVR reliability issues, I think the Cerbera may not be a good choice, stick to German Engineering I guess

Byker28i

58,826 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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I've used mine daily when I ran out of other vehicles for nearly two weeks, but then mine has a lighter clutch and torque comes in lower so it's not too bad in traffic. However, the temptation to put ones foot down occasionally meant the fuel bills were a lot..

nh92

Original Poster:

30 posts

84 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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If I decide on the cerb, what are the main things to lookout for other than the obvious like chassis, electrics, interior trim...?

Maybe have a daily driver other than a cerb too then

Incognegro

1,560 posts

132 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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nh92 said:
Looking to purchase my next car before the end of summer this year, I have thought long and hard what to go for as regards to reliability and usability day to day and running costs, I am undecided between Cerbera, Chimaera, Jaguar XF/S Type/XK, AMG CLS/CLK/S/E/C, Porsche 996, Kit car, with many more to choose from I just want best advice on Pros/cons of each really as never owned such cars, which would be most sensible I guess is the question I should be asking. Anyone with an opinion ??
Having had the XFS as a daily it was very nice but not at all out sports like a Cerbera is. its length was an annoyance as a daily also to the extent it was like my RR Vogue but without the elevated position. I soon changed it for a RR Sport which was the much better daily and fuel consumption only slightly worse.

Get the Cerb it will make you smile like no other but also prom you to show more OCD or interest in how its living wink

nh92

Original Poster:

30 posts

84 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Cheers guys, guess you have to forget the fuel economy with these motors
Cerb it is then

nh92

Original Poster:

30 posts

84 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Incognegro said:
Having had the XFS as a daily it was very nice but not at all out sports like a Cerbera is. its length was an annoyance as a daily also to the extent it was like my RR Vogue but without the elevated position. I soon changed it for a RR Sport which was the much better daily and fuel consumption only slightly worse.

Get the Cerb it will make you smile like no other but also prom you to show more OCD or interest in how its living wink
Would you recommend a RR, Jag, or Audi as a daily as well as the cerb?
See you`ve had a few...

Thekraken

91 posts

99 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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A cerbera is a special bestie in any guise.....first sports car?? Perhaps cut your teeth on something that is less likely to bite back!!

And as with ANY performance car there will be big bills and running costs.....
The Cerbera isn't an unreliable car at all!! If looked after properly......far more reliable than anything from Ferrari or Lamborghini!!!

O and certainly don't think the 4.2 the runt of the litter.....the power delivery in a 4.2 is simply savage and will be more than is sensibly usable on the road.......

O dear upset a Porsche owner ...... smile nothing personal but the 996 is even hated by Porsche fans.......no doubt the cheapest way into a 911... GT3 is one hell of a car though!! See I don't hate Porsche's........smile


PGNSagaris

2,926 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Ha. I agree actually but you will find the tide is changing rebtbe 996 like it did the 964, 3.2's etc. The 996 is the ugly duckling now but my CSR Retro is a very special animal.

OP, I'd agree about the Ferrari comment above. Ran one alongside the Cerb and it was comically unreliable. Con rods. Lambdas. Battery. Window regulators....what a joke.

If you have another car to use, get a Cerb over a 996. Every day.

nh92

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30 posts

84 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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PGNSagaris said:
Ha. I agree actually but you will find the tide is changing rebtbe 996 like it did the 964, 3.2's etc. The 996 is the ugly duckling now but my CSR Retro is a very special animal.

OP, I'd agree about the Ferrari comment above. Ran one alongside the Cerb and it was comically unreliable. Con rods. Lambdas. Battery. Window regulators....what a joke.

If you have another car to use, get a Cerb over a 996. Every day.
Why do people bang on so much about how unreliable a Cerbera is then lol

Thekraken

91 posts

99 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Every high performance car have high running costs......exceptions??? None!

For the older cars ( like mine ) they are 20 years old!! Things wear out.......

As to being unreliable....nonsense........if they haven't been maintenance correctly or abused sure .....what else would you expect! They also hate sitting around not being used.....

Engines are very robust......ajps are...and so are speed sixes if rebuilt and updated.

Clutch slaves can be a weak point.

Minor electrics niggles certainly.

Get one with history....a good chassis and we'll looked after and you'll be fine!!

Get it inspected!!

Buy the best you can afford........

Above all go drive one!! You won't be disappointed.....the cutting your teeth comment earlier was a bit condescending, sorry, no need for that......however do appreciate that it's reputation for being savage if you give it some stick is well deserved......






PGNSagaris

2,926 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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nh92 said:
Why do people bang on so much about how unreliable a Cerbera is then lol
Because compared to my 911's, it was. Clutch went. Throttle cable. Battery died randomly. Clutch slave and master. Starter motor. Electrics had issues. Nothing major but the AA were out quite a bit over the years.

I have had three TVR's. Cerbera definitely the most expensive to maintain with the most niggles. Hence why I personally would never daily one.


m4tti

5,426 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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nh92 said:
Why do people bang on so much about how unreliable a Cerbera is then lol
Curious. Is that the extent of your past cars in your profile. Not wishing to sound like a piss taker but if it is, any tvr as a daily is a hugely bad idea. Not only will the running costs exceed all of those cars put together, in the wet you may find yourself like this.




Incognegro

1,560 posts

132 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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nh92 said:
Would you recommend a RR, Jag, or Audi as a daily as well as the cerb?
See you`ve had a few...
To be honest my current combo is one I couldn't be any happier with Evoque and Cerbera. I have the RR Evoque as my daily... does miles effortlessly, more than capable off road and in UK weather snap and is just about big enough to class as a serious family car although noticeably smaller than the bigger RRs however it did take my wife and (1yr old at the time) to France on a weeks holiday in good comfort and economically.

Mixing a 4x4 with the Cerb is ideal... think of having a snowfall? My Jag was shocking and my 2nd car at the time was a Smart Roadster Brabus I was locked in for days Had I still had the 4x4 happy days. to my mind RRs are still the ultimate SUV

That said Audi Q series are good but a car like that has to be optioned up to give you what a 2008 RRS gives you as standard??? for example. and those options cost a lot.

haven't had a chance to check the F-Pace yet but to be honest the RR just do it for me.

I Hope that helps mate... remember it is just my opinion but i say test drive all 3 you mention and I think I know the combo you would feel better about wink

nh92

Original Poster:

30 posts

84 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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m4tti said:
Curious. Is that the extent of your past cars in your profile. Not wishing to sound like a piss taker but if it is, any tvr as a daily is a hugely bad idea. Not only will the running costs exceed all of those cars put together, in the wet you may find yourself like this.



Lol I`ve never ended up in any ditch