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Discussion
SXS said:
Thanks for the kind words chaps! 
Julian64, unfortunately I am unable to reveal any detailed build information and/or images of custom components etc. At the request of TVR Craft I have agreed contractually to not disclose any information which may reveal their technical designs, which include drivetrain/suspension/electrics and rolling chassis. Although I am the owner of this project, I must respect their wishes as Dave has employed his own personal technical designs. But other aspects from an exterior/naked-eye perspective will be made public as and when various phases are complete. But as you dont like the thought of a mutant cerbie, you wont be missing anything
But Ash, Its a shame, its not like there will be a mass market for people wanting 1000bhp Cerbs, so their ideas on your car are not going to be an obvious reselling market.
How they decided on tuning options, how they calculated the load that various parts of your car could take. What made them go one way rather than the other. Surely that is the story of the phoenix?
I have nothing against a mutant cerbie but its like walking into a museum and seeing a spitfire. The development of the spitfire was far more interesting than the final shape. Whether you like the spitfire or not its the way it came to be that is the real story.
To promise that you won't talk about it is the TV equivalent of just turning the set off and admiring the shape of the TV.
Please rethink this.
I understand, I have always been up front with technical matters, but the various designs employed here within the engine as well as the rest of the car are crafts closely guardard secrets. If you are a racer, the last thing you would do is make your knowledge public, obviously this is no top-fueller, but the same principles apply, TVR Craft have employed a variety of similar proven designs in their other projects, and some of those motors are used in pro competition, if I released this information under the pretext of detailing this project, I not only go against crafts wishes but could also put myself into serious trouble with the teams/owners of pro-comp motors designed and built by Dave over the years.
But not to worry, I have pictures and videos of engine removal, strip-down, and will also have a complete video diary of the engine being assembled and the drivetrain and everything else,
but sadly this will never be released to the general public, unless Dave permits it. I respect Daves wishes and knowing how his ideas for over 20 years have been leaked and utilised by others without any credit to him as the mastermind, I will not be another one to let him down, a gentlemans agreement is signed in blood in my book.
I do apologise for this, I would have loved to create a step-by-step website of the whole project (that was the original intention), but this project is not my work, I made demands, and Dave has gone all-out to deliver exactly what I'm after, the end product complying to all my requested requirements is all I'm expecting, with a full tank of fuel (which will hopefully be enough to make it to the next nearest Shell).
I'm sure you understand, I know its not what you and many for that matter want to hear, especially as we're all TVR nuts. The proof is in the pudding, and I'm hungry!
But not to worry, I have pictures and videos of engine removal, strip-down, and will also have a complete video diary of the engine being assembled and the drivetrain and everything else,
but sadly this will never be released to the general public, unless Dave permits it. I respect Daves wishes and knowing how his ideas for over 20 years have been leaked and utilised by others without any credit to him as the mastermind, I will not be another one to let him down, a gentlemans agreement is signed in blood in my book.
I do apologise for this, I would have loved to create a step-by-step website of the whole project (that was the original intention), but this project is not my work, I made demands, and Dave has gone all-out to deliver exactly what I'm after, the end product complying to all my requested requirements is all I'm expecting, with a full tank of fuel (which will hopefully be enough to make it to the next nearest Shell).
I'm sure you understand, I know its not what you and many for that matter want to hear, especially as we're all TVR nuts. The proof is in the pudding, and I'm hungry!
ASH, please don’t take this the wrong way - it does seems a shame after a lot of hype we'll never know the development issues etc, video, photos - what happened where – I was really looking forward to the website. It now seems it'll be like ‘here's the car’, but can we have a peak, err sorry no?
Was there intention of going the 1000hp to prove that development can be done, improving components etc – then to pass on to us?
I’m glad you're doing something like this, and understand the gentleman’s agreement. Just seems a bit of a tease though eh?
Dean
Was there intention of going the 1000hp to prove that development can be done, improving components etc – then to pass on to us?
I’m glad you're doing something like this, and understand the gentleman’s agreement. Just seems a bit of a tease though eh?
Dean
scorching the highways......wonder if the Phoenix will tempt Mel Gibson back into doing Mad Max IV.... 
its not nice/easy losing someone close and sometimes hard to pick you self up which it looks like you have done/doing... I take my Hat of to you. Nickccc said:
Hi Graham,
The Pheonix will certainly be the center peice in the fortcoming CREAM events, it is sure to be a real stonker.
The neysayers will be eating humble pie I feel.
sock it to them ASH
Nick
Yep I must be a neysayer, cos I been on this board so long I've seen every type of post about ten times. I even remember when ash joined PH's.
I dispair of ever seeing the phoenix, and if I ever do will be afraid it'll have a very large wing on the back and make the carisma cerb look like something I'd do the shopping in.
I would love to eat humble pie, but only to finally hear about the development issues, which it looks like we'll never find out anyway
. I'll never be impressed by any bodywork changes to the Cerb, cos I'm a conservate old fogey. I don't even like the speed 12. I would be very impressed to see it on a racetrack, and I would bring popcorn to any talk on the development issues.
Call me a neysayer, but I've enjoyed driving my car for the last two years and when I'm finally finished with it, It'll go to its next owner as a fully working version of an original to keep the Cerb name alive. I hate it when I here about a cerb destroyed while driving cos the numbers keep dwindling, but at least thats an end for the car doing what it was designed for. But as for the phoenix, so far the story is one less Cerb on the road.
Awaiting with baited breath.
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