Discussion
Well, I have a Kawasaki ZX12R, and used to own a Cerbera. The ZX12 has 180 bhp and weighs 200kg. There is absolutely no way a Cerbera can compare with that, nor hold a candle to it in terms of outright performance. I would agree that plenty big bikes are ridden by incompetents who would be better with 600's (or less) but I reckon there are a greater percentage of incompetents in fast cars. The other thing with "real world" is that there is other traffic on the roads and it is much easier to nip past on a bike.
I have to agree with the bike riders in this section. ZX6R, completely left for dead a Griff. Ok, we were on a straight (dual carriage way) which had a round about half way along it. By the time I'd straightened up and was half way down the next straight, the Griff was now where in sight. I slowed downed and as I cruised to the next roundabout the Griff came storming up the road. I've also been left by 600's, etc when I had the 450 Chimaera. No, it's not because I forgot to use the gears, bikes are just that much faster. Try one if you haven't and be blown away. Especially the lastest GSXR11000.
As long you enjoy yourself, in the end, it's all good fun.
As long you enjoy yourself, in the end, it's all good fun.
Once had some fun with a Yamaha Thunderace 1000 (all on autobahn/airfield/private land you understand!!) He was closely following me at 70ish, traffic cleared both nailed it down a long straight, got upto 150ish and the bike was left a good 100-150 meters behind. We both pulled up at the next roundabout where his first words were "what the f*@K have you got under the bonnet!" We exchanged pleasantries and thumbs ups etc then went our seperate ways. It is fun to suprise a bike now and again as they always expect to blow the doors of virtualy anything else on the road!
I am always sceptical of people who claim to leave bikes for dead in their cars. If you win chances are the bike has missed a gear or is not trying.
I own a 4.2 cerbera and don't think it would really trouble a bike. I will reserve judgement on Grant Tuscan though
Wot you running in that lightweight machine?
Rob.
I own a 4.2 cerbera and don't think it would really trouble a bike. I will reserve judgement on Grant Tuscan though
Wot you running in that lightweight machine? Rob.
Worth remembering that on a jap 4 cyl bike the power curve is very linear and steep right up to the narrow powerband high in the rev range, somewhere btw 11 and 13,000 rpm. So if at 70 the bike is not in 2nd, 3rd gear or lower (believe gixer1000 pulls 83mph in 1st ! ) and screaming its nuts off - it is giving away a huge percentage of it's power.
The Cerb power curve (provided you're running over 4k rpm) let's you get away with much more.
The Cerb power curve (provided you're running over 4k rpm) let's you get away with much more.
Big motor TVR should keep a 600 to a thou honest on the twisty bits due to the amount of rubber it has in contact with the road under hard braking, acceleration and cornering - but get stuffed on a longer road / track. Track Wayne was on about was Thruxton. If the 993 only just beat the R1 then a Cerb or Griff / Chim 500 should have beaten it. The corners there are very fast where corner speed in a car will pay off even though the striaghts are long, mind you a bike can really straight line the corners making up for some of it much smaller contact patch - Church in Car or bike is big balls either way - horses for courses - I'd have both if money, were not an issue. But not sure I would have my license long on a big race rep!
Danny - A car coming the other way would make a bit more mess of the rider than the car driver though!
Is that your Cerb next to Andy White at some drag strip on his profile?
Nice new Cerb (yellow flashed me thsi morning on way to work - they do look the nuts!)
www.pistonheads.com/members/showProfile.asp?memberId=120
Is that your Cerb next to Andy White at some drag strip on his profile?
Nice new Cerb (yellow flashed me thsi morning on way to work - they do look the nuts!)
www.pistonheads.com/members/showProfile.asp?memberId=120
I'm not talking about driving into oncoming traffic, but the amount of "time exposed to danger" or whatever they call it is massively less on a powerful bike due to the width! One reason I sold the Cerbera but kept the Speed Triple.
Yep - that's me with Whitey - Santa Pod I think. You'll be glad to know I whipped the Tuscan RR all day long :-)
Still, taking Radical out on the road for the first time tomorrow - woohoo!
danny
Yep - that's me with Whitey - Santa Pod I think. You'll be glad to know I whipped the Tuscan RR all day long :-)
Still, taking Radical out on the road for the first time tomorrow - woohoo!
danny
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