See what the Evo boys thought of TVR's
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no idea how it ended up there... cough, cough!!
no idea how it ended up there... cough, cough!!
Well my 'even my mum could drive one quick' got some stick 
and I stand by it, I had an afternoon in one, not a hugh amount of time but enough to relalise that if you got anywhere near the cars limits you would be going so fast when you left the road you'd land in another county and it gave very little information back to you to tell you it was about to return to it's rallying roots
I would probably be quicker point to point in a Evopreser GTiR Type UK than in a TVR, but the TVR would be more fun, and as a weekend plaything fun matters almost as much as speed
So if anyone wants to copy and paste that into the Jap forum feel free, I can't be arsed to register there and post it myself
and I stand by it, I had an afternoon in one, not a hugh amount of time but enough to relalise that if you got anywhere near the cars limits you would be going so fast when you left the road you'd land in another county and it gave very little information back to you to tell you it was about to return to it's rallying roots I would probably be quicker point to point in a Evopreser GTiR Type UK than in a TVR, but the TVR would be more fun, and as a weekend plaything fun matters almost as much as speed
So if anyone wants to copy and paste that into the Jap forum feel free, I can't be arsed to register there and post it myself
Now I know why I drive a TVR and not a JAP piece of sh!t.
You can see a big difference in some of the type of people who drive these ugly shoe boxes compared to Cerbera, and other TVR, owners!
I know one thing, I'd be bored in an EVO in same time it takes one of their owners to have a wa*k.
Like I said in the original post, they weren't as quick as the Cerb but they were rapid. Round the corners, OK, a different matter. But I know what 90% of the population would rather have if given both to choose from.
Am I being harsh chaps??
T.
You can see a big difference in some of the type of people who drive these ugly shoe boxes compared to Cerbera, and other TVR, owners!
I know one thing, I'd be bored in an EVO in same time it takes one of their owners to have a wa*k.
Like I said in the original post, they weren't as quick as the Cerb but they were rapid. Round the corners, OK, a different matter. But I know what 90% of the population would rather have if given both to choose from.
Am I being harsh chaps??
T.
raceboy said:
I would probably be quicker point to point in a Evopreser GTiR Type UK than in a TVR, but the TVR would be more fun, and as a weekend plaything fun matters almost as much as speed
I'd agree with that sentiment... but I just found them boring to drive... sorry... so I went for a TVR.
PetrolTed said:
Each to their own. Not really necessary to slag each other off other fast cars is it?
I've driven both. I have opinions on both, but I don't think a lesser person drives one car or the other.
Spot on Ted. They're still car enthusiasts, just have different requirements for their car, so buy different ones.
What a fantastic forum ,, love all those one-liners and neat piccies .. looks a fab lively place to be.
I also agree with alot of the TVR stuff they've got there, however my experince of EVOs is that they usually go home early from track days with no front brakes and no tread on the front tyres, not as bad as Scoobies though and of the two rivals I'd certainly go for the EVO, they are seriously impressive pieces of kit and no ammount of slagging will change that ...
I also agree with alot of the TVR stuff they've got there, however my experince of EVOs is that they usually go home early from track days with no front brakes and no tread on the front tyres, not as bad as Scoobies though and of the two rivals I'd certainly go for the EVO, they are seriously impressive pieces of kit and no ammount of slagging will change that ...
To clear up two points made.
My Cerbera does not leak (lives outside) and gets
around 22mpg (better than my old 'family' car.)
I personally have never been into rallying, more the
Le Mans style race car, so I guess that's why I drive
a Cerbera and not an EVO.
Indeed, each to their own, makes life more interesting,
so they're happy, we're happy.
My Cerbera does not leak (lives outside) and gets
around 22mpg (better than my old 'family' car.)
I personally have never been into rallying, more the
Le Mans style race car, so I guess that's why I drive
a Cerbera and not an EVO.
Indeed, each to their own, makes life more interesting,
so they're happy, we're happy.
joospeed said:
What a fantastic forum ,, love all those one-liners and neat piccies .. looks a fab lively place to be.
Quick, someone write it in the diary - me and Joolz just agreed on something! I didn't think they were particularly disrespectful - they did say that TVRs are better in a straight line and not rally cars (erm, that would be true then), and that they were beautiful on the eye and the ear. And to be fair, after 5 days and nights of constant French Rain, the Griff did give in and provide me with a wet (well dampish) seatbelt in protest!
I'd be happy to post on there without fear of getting randomly abused. 
Recently bought a skyline and the comments on here are fairly accurate. They are easy to drive but if you reach its limits you are really in trouble.
Not as quick as a cerb in a straight line but mine should be when I get it back.
Interesting point about the brakes Joolz. We all know that cerbies warp the front discs but occasionally so do skylines if used hard on a track.
One owner found this irritating and the only solution he found was to use fully floating AP dics. Not sure if he needed new hub carriers or what, but just a thought for cerbie track day nuts.
Is thsi a viable option for cerbies?
PS. I know they are not cheap.
Not as quick as a cerb in a straight line but mine should be when I get it back.
Interesting point about the brakes Joolz. We all know that cerbies warp the front discs but occasionally so do skylines if used hard on a track.
One owner found this irritating and the only solution he found was to use fully floating AP dics. Not sure if he needed new hub carriers or what, but just a thought for cerbie track day nuts.
Is thsi a viable option for cerbies?
PS. I know they are not cheap.
ro_butler said:
One owner found this irritating and the only solution he found was to use fully floating AP dics. Not sure if he needed new hub carriers or what, but just a thought for cerbie track day nuts.
Is thsi a viable option for cerbies?
PS. I know they are not cheap.
didn't dannyLT have a set of monster WRC brakes on his Cerbie? Think they might still be for sale on here somewhere. You're right about "not cheap"...
cheers
sean
my twopennorth...
drove an imprezza p1. Fcuk me sideways that thing was quick. looked at the speedo, thought i was doing about 70, turned out I was doing 125!!
there was a nice big boot, room for 4 adults and it made a nice noise. it looked nice too. I would love one, but my license would last about a week.
downsides were it was very plasticky inside, and all in, it did not make you grin like a tvr can.
still bloody good tho... boxer engines rock.
drove an imprezza p1. Fcuk me sideways that thing was quick. looked at the speedo, thought i was doing about 70, turned out I was doing 125!!
there was a nice big boot, room for 4 adults and it made a nice noise. it looked nice too. I would love one, but my license would last about a week.
downsides were it was very plasticky inside, and all in, it did not make you grin like a tvr can.
still bloody good tho... boxer engines rock.
As someone that is now running my second Supra (a Mk IV - used to have a Mk III) and a Tuscan, I think Ted is absolutely right.
I have had the current Supra for 3 years and 20k miles and the Tuscan from new since January this year.
The Supra IS fun but not difficult to drive, goes well (not quite up with the Tuscan but still a very quick car) and on the servicing side has only needed a new battery and one set of tyres in the time I've had it.
Like the TVRs, and unlike EVOs/Imprezzas, it isn't a rally car but it does have traction control, anti-lock brakes and air bags so I feel safe enough in it even driving in really bad conditions (certainly safer than in the Tuscan). Unlike the Imprezzas I've driven/been driven in (can't comment on EVOs as I've never driven one) it isn't a rattly box - when it was on sale in the UK a few years ago the Supra was a £35-40k car.
Despite its advancing years (1995 car) it remains utterly reliable and I drive it just about every week day. I looked at trading it in when I bought the Tuscan but because of the car's age and the fact that it is an import rather than UK supplied I couldn't get a sensible offer and as I needed a second car anyway decided to keep it. So, not ALL Jap cars are crap.
BUT.... I bought the Tuscan because I still felt there was more to driving a sports car than I was getting from the Supra (have always loved the Cerbera as well but was desperate for an open top and loved the Tuscan styling). Despite a few fit/finish/minor component niggles like we've all had with our TVRs I wouldn't swap it for anything and love driving it. It gets to be the fun/weekend car that TVRs were originally designed to be.
Bottom line - two quite different experiences but each with their place in my life and I wouldn't want to go without either, but the Tuscan is the one that stirs the soul (and in the end isn't that what cars like this are supposed to be about ?). :-)
Max
PS - not sure about Ted but I'm not a Libra (actually a Sagitarius which is maybe something to do with the fast car fixation in the first place) but I can still appreciate there is more than one way to build good/great cars
I have had the current Supra for 3 years and 20k miles and the Tuscan from new since January this year.
The Supra IS fun but not difficult to drive, goes well (not quite up with the Tuscan but still a very quick car) and on the servicing side has only needed a new battery and one set of tyres in the time I've had it.
Like the TVRs, and unlike EVOs/Imprezzas, it isn't a rally car but it does have traction control, anti-lock brakes and air bags so I feel safe enough in it even driving in really bad conditions (certainly safer than in the Tuscan). Unlike the Imprezzas I've driven/been driven in (can't comment on EVOs as I've never driven one) it isn't a rattly box - when it was on sale in the UK a few years ago the Supra was a £35-40k car.
Despite its advancing years (1995 car) it remains utterly reliable and I drive it just about every week day. I looked at trading it in when I bought the Tuscan but because of the car's age and the fact that it is an import rather than UK supplied I couldn't get a sensible offer and as I needed a second car anyway decided to keep it. So, not ALL Jap cars are crap.
BUT.... I bought the Tuscan because I still felt there was more to driving a sports car than I was getting from the Supra (have always loved the Cerbera as well but was desperate for an open top and loved the Tuscan styling). Despite a few fit/finish/minor component niggles like we've all had with our TVRs I wouldn't swap it for anything and love driving it. It gets to be the fun/weekend car that TVRs were originally designed to be.
Bottom line - two quite different experiences but each with their place in my life and I wouldn't want to go without either, but the Tuscan is the one that stirs the soul (and in the end isn't that what cars like this are supposed to be about ?). :-)
Max
PS - not sure about Ted but I'm not a Libra (actually a Sagitarius which is maybe something to do with the fast car fixation in the first place) but I can still appreciate there is more than one way to build good/great cars
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