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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H4-3-Bi-Xenon-HID-Conversion...
I think this is the other way of achieving hi / lo ?
I think this is the other way of achieving hi / lo ?
Gazzab said:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H4-3-Bi-Xenon-HID-Conversion...
I think this is the other way of achieving hi / lo ?
yeah they look more like that, but those look a little happy shopper! I cant upload a pic till tonight as im too retarded to get my mail set up on my new iphone I think this is the other way of achieving hi / lo ?
No - main beam and dip are separate light units. Does that mean I just need another single kit?
I thought that there were some problems using HID as a main beam unless the kit was specifically designed due to the slight delay in the HID lighting up sufficiently??
Any advice gladly received
I thought that there were some problems using HID as a main beam unless the kit was specifically designed due to the slight delay in the HID lighting up sufficiently??
Any advice gladly received
Killer Rhubarb said:
itiejim said:
I've already got HID dip beam on my tuscan style lights. I'd really like to upgrade main beam as well - do I need to change the whole kit or can I just add to it?
Is the mean beam in the same bulb? if not then you could just get a another kit, if its same you need one of these kits. Ill post a pic on main beam but the camera might not be able to take it I have hi - lo on My Disco 3. They are factory fit jobs but they are smiliar operation to the 2nd set ie rather than a bulb come on a sleeve/shroud moves. I agree that on H7s you might find fitting a separate set for hi beam will be a bit slow. Mikeinsheffield had a dipped beam set fitted and left the hi as non-xenon afaik. Not sure if he has the xenon on still when the hi beam is on.
davidd said:
I don't want to piss on anyones chips but I bought an H7 kit for £70. UK supplier, works very well..
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Was it easy to fit? Apart from removing the access panels under the wing, all I want is a straight plug-in replacement. I do not want to be chopping into the loom, making holes in the fibreglass etc, because I *will* cock it up.D
They are easy enough to fit, should be plug n play unless the voltage reaching your bulbs is crap in which case use the relay harness which good kits will providein the box.
I have Tuscan style lights but went back to halogen for the main beams. The hids are not much good for flashing people but blinding once warmed up. If you're a courteous driver and flash to let people out etc then I think they will annoy you.
Try and stick to 5000K especially for the original single lights, I have 6000K and they are a bit on the cyan side. I think you can get away with higher temp-colour lights with the projection lamps but with the H4s you run the risk of looking chavvy. Plus 5000K emits more visible light.
You can mount the boxes on the removable panel, they should have mounting holes so just a case of drilling a couple of holes in the panel and bolting them to it.
I have Tuscan style lights but went back to halogen for the main beams. The hids are not much good for flashing people but blinding once warmed up. If you're a courteous driver and flash to let people out etc then I think they will annoy you.
Try and stick to 5000K especially for the original single lights, I have 6000K and they are a bit on the cyan side. I think you can get away with higher temp-colour lights with the projection lamps but with the H4s you run the risk of looking chavvy. Plus 5000K emits more visible light.
You can mount the boxes on the removable panel, they should have mounting holes so just a case of drilling a couple of holes in the panel and bolting them to it.
FarmyardPants said:
They are easy enough to fit, should be plug n play unless the voltage reaching your bulbs is crap in which case use the relay harness which good kits will providein the box.
i would recommend having HIDS - after having a hids4u kit for years, easy to buy the parts and setup, however a hell of a lot cheaper, is buying a ready made kit off ebay. the drain from the light control box is crap, so use this as the switch and the relay to direct feed off the batt.FarmyardPants said:
I have Tuscan style lights but went back to halogen for the main beams. The hids are not much good for flashing people but blinding once warmed up. If you're a courteous driver and flash to let people out etc then I think they will annoy you.
I'm sure there's a way round this having the main beam ballasts permanently charged, so when flashing someone, they come on very quickly.FarmyardPants said:
and stick to 5000K especially for the original single lights, I have 6000K and they are a bit on the cyan side. I think you can get away with higher temp-colour lights with the projection lamps but with the H4s you run the risk of looking chavvy. Plus 5000K emits more visible light.
5000-6000 is your best bet - i have 6000K something recommended by the guys at HIDS4U, the higher you go, you get into the real blue light, depends on what you're looking for. there's plenty of sites out there showing colour range/tempsFarmyardPants said:
You can mount the boxes on the removable panel, they should have mounting holes so just a case of drilling a couple of holes in the panel and bolting them to it.
Edited by dean_ratpac on Monday 18th January 14:22
Interesting idea about havig the ballasts on all the time for the main beam 
, I guess you could use a relay between ballast and bulb, although I think it's a squillion volts so might need a special relay. Dunno if the ballasts/ignitors/mumble can be run like this.
Re cheaper, my hids were £40 a pair including relay harness, fuses, even drill bits were included. Got them from lglights.com, the prices are in Canadian dollars and they put a cheap price on the box so fedex duty doesn't cost much either. Prices might've gone up, haven't checked.
, I guess you could use a relay between ballast and bulb, although I think it's a squillion volts so might need a special relay. Dunno if the ballasts/ignitors/mumble can be run like this.Re cheaper, my hids were £40 a pair including relay harness, fuses, even drill bits were included. Got them from lglights.com, the prices are in Canadian dollars and they put a cheap price on the box so fedex duty doesn't cost much either. Prices might've gone up, haven't checked.
FarmyardPants said:
Interesting idea about havig the ballasts on all the time for the main beam , I guess you could use a relay between ballast and bulb, although I think it's a squillion volts so might need a special relay. Dunno if the ballasts/ignitors/mumble can be run like this.
Re cheaper, my hids were £40 a pair including relay harness, fuses, even drill bits were included. Got them from lglights.com, the prices are in Canadian dollars and they put a cheap price on the box so fedex duty doesn't cost much either. Prices might've gone up, haven't checked.
£71 quid now, dont know if that includes shipping., I guess you could use a relay between ballast and bulb, although I think it's a squillion volts so might need a special relay. Dunno if the ballasts/ignitors/mumble can be run like this.Re cheaper, my hids were £40 a pair including relay harness, fuses, even drill bits were included. Got them from lglights.com, the prices are in Canadian dollars and they put a cheap price on the box so fedex duty doesn't cost much either. Prices might've gone up, haven't checked.
FarmyardPants said:
Interesting idea about havig the ballasts on all the time for the main beam , I guess you could use a relay between ballast and bulb, although I think it's a squillion volts so might need a special relay. Dunno if the ballasts/ignitors/mumble can be run like this.
you're defo right there, I'll call the guys and see what they say. , I guess you could use a relay between ballast and bulb, although I think it's a squillion volts so might need a special relay. Dunno if the ballasts/ignitors/mumble can be run like this.I bought mine from HIDS4U, very helpful, but paid over the odds and have been amazing i think i had them around 100 quid, maybe more as it was so long ago. They now have new 55W instead of the standard 35W HID lights.
I believe H4's are the same bulb and the unit has some sort of moving part to flick from dipped to main, the H7's are separate units... I'm looking at a new set for my dipped and having the old ones as main.
However, not sure if its just my control box for the lights, but i did find that since having the HIDS fitted, i had and increased amount of carbon build up on the particular connector that feeds the lights, which is a little worrying as this means its arc'ing, and on the fuel tank. :-) good old TVR!
Hopefully my new relay harness will decrease this.
also be wary of the cheapo kits, you pay for what you get and i've heard some nasty stories of them taking out ECU's.
Edited by dean_ratpac on Monday 18th January 15:21
The Canadian dollar is stronger than it used to be, was 2.2 to the pound, now more like 1.7 so not as cheap as before. At the time, the hids4u (which are probaby better quality) were £199.
The H4s are (in Halogen form) twin filament, one with a shroud for dipped, and one without for main. The HID equivalent uses a moving shroud. H7s are just plain bulbs so should be cheaper on a bulb for bulb basis. I agree with Gazza the 35w are the ones to go for. One of the reasons for choosing these is the reduced load on the loom (I don't use relays at the moment and they work fine) and the 35w are plenty bright enough
The H4s are (in Halogen form) twin filament, one with a shroud for dipped, and one without for main. The HID equivalent uses a moving shroud. H7s are just plain bulbs so should be cheaper on a bulb for bulb basis. I agree with Gazza the 35w are the ones to go for. One of the reasons for choosing these is the reduced load on the loom (I don't use relays at the moment and they work fine) and the 35w are plenty bright enough
Gazzab said:
You wanna stay away from 55w. They are more troublesome from I have read.
I just spoke to the guys at HIDS4U, as always extremely helpful. Seems the 55W kits have been outselling the 35W with no problems. They do however, draw more to get charged. The bulbs are exactly the same in both kits. I do remember a similar debate about the 55W halogen bulbs.I'm not on here to prove anyone wrong, but I'm always sceptical of online reviews, as what kits are they talking about and where they're from? There are many out there, and with these guys they rigorously test there's come with warranty blah blah.
as my understanding the wattage is only 35/55 'after' the ballast to the Bulb, not down the loom, but that is my understanding.
with regard to the permanently charged ballasts, they didn't have an solution. they point out that the kits still flash enough light for a "flash".
i suppose i must just test them out.
Edited by dean_ratpac on Monday 18th January 16:15
apguy said:
davidd said:
I don't want to piss on anyones chips but I bought an H7 kit for £70. UK supplier, works very well..
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Was it easy to fit? Apart from removing the access panels under the wing, all I want is a straight plug-in replacement. I do not want to be chopping into the loom, making holes in the fibreglass etc, because I *will* cock it up.D
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Very pleased with the result.
I bought a HID kit the other month but havn't got round to fitting. Im not that great with electronics and was wondering if anyone knows of a place near to South London/ Kent/ Surrey that can fit it for me.
I think i must have overpaid as i bought it from HIDS4U.COM for around £200. I got sucked in with the best quality components line.
I think i must have overpaid as i bought it from HIDS4U.COM for around £200. I got sucked in with the best quality components line.
Jord2010 said:
I bought a HID kit the other month but havn't got round to fitting. Im not that great with electronics and was wondering if anyone knows of a place near to South London/ Kent/ Surrey that can fit it for me.
I think i must have overpaid as i bought it from HIDS4U.COM for around £200. I got sucked in with the best quality components line.
My car is going in to Austec in Crawley tomorrow to have HIDs fitted.I think i must have overpaid as i bought it from HIDS4U.COM for around £200. I got sucked in with the best quality components line.
the fubar fallback position - ah f
kit, i'll just pay paul ridds said:
Bit dear for me considering I'd need 2 sets for my Tuscan style lights.
What are the differences between a £40 set and a £100 set?
None whatsoever. They can be bought for £1 (buy it now) and £29.99 postage from Hong Kong from ebay. That's were I got mine from and I've had mine fitted for over three years no issues whatsoever.What are the differences between a £40 set and a £100 set?
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