short induction no map

short induction no map

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Boosted Cerb

556 posts

232 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Gazzab said:
Ring raceproved and ask...?!
I just did, cheers smile I expect they'll get an order soon.

rossmcdee

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25 posts

202 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Have had an interesting day with some contradictory advice given from well known tvr tuning outfits. The problem is arising in the fact I live Near Newcastle and allthough a re-map at austec would be the best solution all round, I cant find £881.25 for the re map, £150 for petrol and £150+ for accomadation food, drinks etc etc not to mention the time off work(self employed). Ive looked in my arse and its just not there. Bare in mind Ive just spent a grand on getting it back on the road after 18 month sitting in my garage. Any how nobodys problem but mine!
I have been told by one company they can supply a "safe" chip by post to fit to the ecu to get me going. I have been told by the other firm(who supplies the chips any way)that its not feasible to do this as there is a good chance the sent chip(map) will be no good either.
I have just (tonight) checked out raceproveds web site. They mention emerald ecu mapping, but do they work on the cerbera set up aswell?? Shefield is a hell of a lot closer then austec. I could get there and back in a day.

Cheers

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Given everything you've said perhaps the best sort term answer is to pick up a set of secondhand long original pipes from someone that has already done the change.

Nickccc

1,682 posts

249 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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How many of the long purple pipes are shot? I've got six or seven lying around
spotted them in the shed earlier. If you need them could send them out to you.
Whilst a generic chip would certainly be safer, it won't be ideal as it won't be bespoke
to suit your engine and exhaust system.

JensenA

5,671 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Although I have the short induction kit and a Remap, and all the benefits it gives. It does makes the car feel more like a 4.2, and I still kinda miss the characteristics of the orginal 4.5 long induction set up. So don't get too pissed off thinking your missing out on something. staying with the original set up isn't a bad thing.

caduceus

6,071 posts

267 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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JensenA said:
Although I have the short induction kit and a Remap, and all the benefits it gives. It does makes the car feel more like a 4.2, and I still kinda miss the characteristics of the orginal 4.5 long induction set up..
Interesting Alan. Could you elaborate on that please..

rossmcdee

Original Poster:

25 posts

202 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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Nickccc said:
How many of the long purple pipes are shot? I've got six or seven lying around
spotted them in the shed earlier. If you need them could send them out to you.
Whilst a generic chip would certainly be safer, it won't be ideal as it won't be bespoke
to suit your engine and exhaust system.
Thankyou Ill bear that in mind. Wish I had posted something earlier! induction kit is all bought and paid for. Wasnt even that bothered about doing it, was forced into it realy cause of lack of original pipes!!!

Gazzab

21,108 posts

283 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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If money is tight then sell your pipes on or wait till you can afford it? Get some 2nd hand ones for time being maybe?
But if money is really that tight then I suggest saving your money for when repairs are required as opposed to tuning that isnt necessary etc (nort withstanding your immediate issue)..
Raceproved I am sure can provide a generic chip or can map the car for you - they have the best known Cerb tuner on the planet.
They have a reasonable hrly rate and they are 100% straight - so you will get great value.

JensenA

5,671 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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caduceus said:
JensenA said:
Although I have the short induction kit and a Remap, and all the benefits it gives. It does makes the car feel more like a 4.2, and I still kinda miss the characteristics of the orginal 4.5 long induction set up..
Interesting Alan. Could you elaborate on that please..
Hmmmm, hard to explain really, it was the 'feeling' of the car that changed. The post re-map figures show that torque and power had increased, but the original long induction felt torquier. Compared to the 4.2 it also felt like you were driving a 'heavier' car, with a less free revving engine. It felt more powerful, it was just very different to the fast revving, light flywheel feel of the 4.2.
After the re-map it had all the characteristics of, and felt like, a slightly more powerful 4.2. It was as though 'The Beast had been tamed'.

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Wednesday 17th February 2010
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JensenA said:
caduceus said:
JensenA said:
Although I have the short induction kit and a Remap, and all the benefits it gives. It does makes the car feel more like a 4.2, and I still kinda miss the characteristics of the orginal 4.5 long induction set up..
Interesting Alan. Could you elaborate on that please..
Hmmmm, hard to explain really, it was the 'feeling' of the car that changed. The post re-map figures show that torque and power had increased, but the original long induction felt torquier. Compared to the 4.2 it also felt like you were driving a 'heavier' car, with a less free revving engine. It felt more powerful, it was just very different to the fast revving, light flywheel feel of the 4.2.
After the re-map it had all the characteristics of, and felt like, a slightly more powerful 4.2. It was as though 'The Beast had been tamed'.
So to sum up, it feels quicker to rev is actually has more power and torque and not as sluggish as the 4.5, can't see the problem myself hehe

rossmcdee

Original Poster:

25 posts

202 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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Gazzab said:
If money is tight then sell your pipes on or wait till you can afford it? Get some 2nd hand ones for time being maybe?
But if money is really that tight then I suggest saving your money for when repairs are required as opposed to tuning that isnt necessary etc (nort withstanding your immediate issue)..
Raceproved I am sure can provide a generic chip or can map the car for you - they have the best known Cerb tuner on the planet.
They have a reasonable hrly rate and they are 100% straight - so you will get great value.
Have spoke to jules at raceproved this morning. Very nice chap. Hope to get the car mapped soon. Far more helpfull than some others i have delt with. (not act they were good also).
Thanks to everybody who has tried to help. I will post before I do anything else to my cerb in future!!

Cyclone1

2,600 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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rossmcdee said:
Gazzab said:
If money is tight then sell your pipes on or wait till you can afford it? Get some 2nd hand ones for time being maybe?
But if money is really that tight then I suggest saving your money for when repairs are required as opposed to tuning that isnt necessary etc (nort withstanding your immediate issue)..
Raceproved I am sure can provide a generic chip or can map the car for you - they have the best known Cerb tuner on the planet.
They have a reasonable hrly rate and they are 100% straight - so you will get great value.
Have spoke to jules at raceproved this morning. Very nice chap. Hope to get the car mapped soon. Far more helpfull than some others i have delt with. (not act they were good also).
Thanks to everybody who has tried to help. I will post before I do anything else to my cerb in future!!
Good to hear you are getting it all sorted out.

The advice you'll get on here is excellent as there are some very knowledgeable owners with lot's of Cerb ownership experience.

Jules.

rossmcdee

Original Poster:

25 posts

202 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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Hello once again. A rather important development has occured in the continiuing saga of my induction set up. It turns out that the "short induction set up that my garage had ordered turns out to be a uprated standard set!! Hence the low price I quoted earlier. This happened due to a missunderstanding somewhere along the line between the garage and suppliers. I now was faced with purchasing a full set of standard pipes when I only wanted 2 or indeed be putting the money towards the short kit. My garage cant send the pipes back so they offred to sell them via e-bay. This was avoided by them being extremely fair about the whole situation and have absorbed almost 50% of the cost of the new pipes. Therefore although I do not have the modification work done I am not going to be financially strained or have the problem as outlined originaly (re-map requirements).
I have however now allowed myself to dream of more ponies that are obviously there to be released. So I shall be saving my pennies and delivering my car to be fitted with short kit and mapped all at the same time!!!

Please note the induction pipes purchased were not bought from ACT and it was not a missunderstanding involving them or raceproved.
Many thanks to Tim at ACT and Jules at racecraft for all there advice and time. I dare say you will be getting some of my money before the summers up!!
Thanks also to my garage Paul stabler(01325367855) who has been very helpful and a pleasure to deal with and continiues to care for my TVR to the highest standards. If your in the North you wont go far wrong with your servicing or repair needs with Paul and all at a very competitive rates.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

238 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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You kiss-ass Ross... laugh

Great to hear your getting sorted and see you on the Cobweb.

Paul

exwinegtrr33

82 posts

178 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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rossmcdee said:
Have had an interesting day with some contradictory advice given from well known tvr tuning outfits. The problem is arising in the fact I live Near Newcastle and allthough a re-map at austec would be the best solution all round, I cant find £881.25 for the re map, £150 for petrol and £150+ for accomadation food, drinks etc etc not to mention the time off work(self employed). Ive looked in my arse and its just not there. Bare in mind Ive just spent a grand on getting it back on the road after 18 month sitting in my garage. Any how nobodys problem but mine!
I have been told by one company they can supply a "safe" chip by post to fit to the ecu to get me going. I have been told by the other firm(who supplies the chips any way)that its not feasible to do this as there is a good chance the sent chip(map) will be no good either.
I have just (tonight) checked out raceproveds web site. They mention emerald ecu mapping, but do they work on the cerbera set up aswell?? Shefield is a hell of a lot closer then austec. I could get there and back in a day.

Cheers
Neally £900 for JUST a remap, and there was me thinking having work done and then have a remap on the skyline at around £650 a time was over the top

Stu

rossmcdee

Original Poster:

25 posts

202 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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The Surveyor said:
You kiss-ass Ross... laugh

Great to hear your getting sorted and see you on the Cobweb.

Paul
kiss my arse driving miss daisy
see you soon bud


Edited by rossmcdee on Thursday 18th February 22:19

JensenA

5,671 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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If you have standard suspension on your car - I'd say spend your cash getting that sorted before you get a re-map.

caduceus

6,071 posts

267 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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How much does a remap with Joo cost these days?

rossmcdee

Original Poster:

25 posts

202 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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JensenA said:
If you have standard suspension on your car - I'd say spend your cash getting that sorted before you get a re-map.
I fitted some gaz golds while the car was off the road and paul has been setting them up for me while in for its service.

gruffalo

7,529 posts

227 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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Jules,

I have the 4.5 with no remap and short induction.

I have the Joo Cooling chip fitted, does this help on this.

I have just been on to Jason at TVR Power, they do a generic chip that they have developed from all the cars they have had on the rolling road with the short induction. One chip on order!!

Cheers
Martin.