Difference between 4.5 Lightweight vs 'Normal' 4.5 Cerbera
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One isnt lighter than the other.
The differences are:
Front and rear lights
Bigger / taller front screen
No sun visors
Spider wheels
Tuscan seats (and slightly restyled rears).
No carbon side trim - colouor coded bigger trim.
Cheaper front disks
Also depends whether S6, 4.2 or 4.5 as not all of the above applied to S6's (eg front lights remained the old style).
Think thats it.
The differences are:
Front and rear lights
Bigger / taller front screen
No sun visors
Spider wheels
Tuscan seats (and slightly restyled rears).
No carbon side trim - colouor coded bigger trim.
Cheaper front disks
Also depends whether S6, 4.2 or 4.5 as not all of the above applied to S6's (eg front lights remained the old style).
Think thats it.
Who told you this????? you are talking about the Mk2 revision of the Cerbera, the front and rear lights changed on chassis number 2017 on 25/9/99 for the show car, screens never changed in size the only difference was the obscuration band and header panel on the screen,spider wheels were standard on all 4.5 cars,tuscan seats went into all cerberas, colour coded larger 'a' post trims went on to all to match the change in the roof line, there was never a LW speed six and in total only about 6 light weights ever made,as they were terrible.As for the OP question the lay up was lighter or meant to be,the best way to test for a light weight car is to push the boot lid in the centre or the wing tops and the panel will flex, especially the bonnet which was light and extremely flimsy. I have all the chassis numbers of all cerberas which were produced at bristol avenue,colours and specs in my office at Automedon and can verify any car that claims to be a light weight.
Gazzab said:
One isnt lighter than the other.
The differences are:
Front and rear lights
Bigger / taller front screen
No sun visors
Spider wheels
Tuscan seats (and slightly restyled rears).
No carbon side trim - colouor coded bigger trim.
Cheaper front disks
Also depends whether S6, 4.2 or 4.5 as not all of the above applied to S6's (eg front lights remained the old style).
Think thats it.
The differences are:
Front and rear lights
Bigger / taller front screen
No sun visors
Spider wheels
Tuscan seats (and slightly restyled rears).
No carbon side trim - colouor coded bigger trim.
Cheaper front disks
Also depends whether S6, 4.2 or 4.5 as not all of the above applied to S6's (eg front lights remained the old style).
Think thats it.
after fitting the panels on the production line, the car would inevitable have to go back to paint shop to be blown in repaired. due to the low volume of matting in the panels they would move bend flex warp in the bake ovens,and this caused stress marks in the gel coat,this is why we stopped producing light weight varients, and it was removed from the option list. they were more trouble than they were worth.
tvrtuscans said:
Ta....why were lightweights 'terrible'?
nemasis said:
Who told you this????? you are talking about the Mk2 revision of the Cerbera, the front and rear lights changed on chassis number 2017 on 25/9/99 for the show car, screens never changed in size the only difference was the obscuration band and header panel on the screen,spider wheels were standard on all 4.5 cars,tuscan seats went into all cerberas, colour coded larger 'a' post trims went on to all to match the change in the roof line, there was never a LW speed six and in total only about 6 light weights ever made,as they were terrible.As for the OP question the lay up was lighter or meant to be,the best way to test for a light weight car is to push the boot lid in the centre or the wing tops and the panel will flex, especially the bonnet which was light and extremely flimsy. I have all the chassis numbers of all cerberas which were produced at bristol avenue,colours and specs in my office at Automedon and can verify any car that claims to be a light weight.
Who told me what? I am talking LW cars. Yes there are meant to be some real lightweights out there. Gazzab said:
One isnt lighter than the other.
The differences are:
Front and rear lights
Bigger / taller front screen
No sun visors
Spider wheels
Tuscan seats (and slightly restyled rears).
No carbon side trim - colouor coded bigger trim.
Cheaper front disks
Also depends whether S6, 4.2 or 4.5 as not all of the above applied to S6's (eg front lights remained the old style).
Think thats it.
The differences are:
Front and rear lights
Bigger / taller front screen
No sun visors
Spider wheels
Tuscan seats (and slightly restyled rears).
No carbon side trim - colouor coded bigger trim.
Cheaper front disks
Also depends whether S6, 4.2 or 4.5 as not all of the above applied to S6's (eg front lights remained the old style).
Think thats it.
Generally people sell / refer to post 00 cars as lightweights. If you look at the ads you will see this.
Splitting hairs re taller screen - ok glass the same size but as a driver the screen isnt obscured and therefore feels taller.
Spider wheels were fitted to all 4.5 cars post 00.
2mad said:
I thought the lw stood for large windscreen model not light weight.tvr also made a few GT cerberas about 6 which had some carbon fibre parts to lighten them .
This debate has been had loads of time before. It doesnt stand for large windscreen.Edited by 2mad on Saturday 29th January 18:18
They made a handful of 'real' lightweights.
They also made a number of 'GT' cars. One or two of which have different suspension set ups.
my 4.5 (circa 2001) says LW in the front of the handbook.....if I send you my chassis no. can you tell me if I'm Light Weight, large windscreen or the dealer was Lying Weasel!
don't care really as car is Literally Wonderful anyway but curious!!
does nemasis hold the truth behind LW!!!!
don't care really as car is Literally Wonderful anyway but curious!!
does nemasis hold the truth behind LW!!!!
There is confusion between the Lightweight from the factory and the Lightwieght from the PR department.
As I understand it, there were a handful of cars made lightweight, most of which didnt end up lightweight due to the issues Nemasis mentions. Then the PR bods had launched them all named as Lightweights from that date anyway, most of which have actually seemed to be heavier cars - but allegedly better built - as you would expect from the continued development of any model.
The LW as we know it is the latter. GT's are a seperate kettle of awesome, I know there is one out there, possibly a couple more - different chassis pick up points etc etc.. there is also reportedly atleast one car out there with a mix of carbon and fibreglass from the factory, not sure if it was experimental or just a one off for a favoured customer, but they're all interesting to me.
As I understand it, there were a handful of cars made lightweight, most of which didnt end up lightweight due to the issues Nemasis mentions. Then the PR bods had launched them all named as Lightweights from that date anyway, most of which have actually seemed to be heavier cars - but allegedly better built - as you would expect from the continued development of any model.
The LW as we know it is the latter. GT's are a seperate kettle of awesome, I know there is one out there, possibly a couple more - different chassis pick up points etc etc.. there is also reportedly atleast one car out there with a mix of carbon and fibreglass from the factory, not sure if it was experimental or just a one off for a favoured customer, but they're all interesting to me.
Chewitt said:
my 4.5 (circa 2001) says LW in the front of the handbook.....if I send you my chassis no. can you tell me if I'm Light Weight, large windscreen or the dealer was Lying Weasel!
don't care really as car is Literally Wonderful anyway but curious!!
does nemasis hold the truth behind LW!!!!
The answers are all above. They were called lightweight despite the only real lightweights being the 6 mentioned above. don't care really as car is Literally Wonderful anyway but curious!!
does nemasis hold the truth behind LW!!!!
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