599 from GT3 -recommendations

[lotuselan7]

Hi all
Currently got 997 GT3 210. To be honest it's not what I expected and a little to noisy and raw.
Been looking at 599's always thought beautiful car but thought out of m league, well!
Seems 3 year old car with <10K not that far out of my reach.
Question is am I mad will running costs kill me, are they reliable.
It would be dealer car and used high days holidays what r people's experiences and recommendations. I've owned lots of Pork and thought 911 Tubo S but not that much of a change, Alwas had F itch and it needs scratching!
Any insights / advice welcome.
Mark

[UH-Matt]

Looked at these last year.

Running costs in terms of petrol and such will indeed kill you, but servicing and maintenance were not too bad when compared with any "supercar". Also if your buying from a dealer you'll get 2 years F warranty anyway, so no hidden surprises.

Some of these sneaking around the £100k-110k mark now look like fairly good value... But expect to take a hit still as I can see these being £80k cars in the next 18 months or so and then hold at that level for a long time. Depends if its a keeper or not as to weather that will bother you. Mind you its probably just as easy to lose £10-15k on newish pork right?

New one out next year, sure to be very expensive so should not affect value of the "old model" just like 458 has not to 430?

[ted 191]

Loving my 599, after gallardo's, gen2 turbo and a scud it does everything I need and more, although it does like a drink.
I'm always looking for my next car, but I'm struggling to think of anything at any price that can follow the 599.


Oohhhh and the engine

[lotuselan7]

Thanks guys sounds like a real possibility. Ive got a sloping drive up to my garage which I have axle lift on my GT3 for. Do you have any exeperience with ground clearance?

[Wanta996Gotta]

lotuselan7 said:

Thanks guys sounds like a real possibility. Ive got a sloping drive up to my garage which I have axle lift on my GT3 for. Do you have any exeperience with ground clearance?

The response that mentions similar running costs to any Supercar is the key. Allot of us can maybe afford to buy these cars used nowadays but we may not be able to run them. You can service your GT3 once every 2 years for approx £1200,20-25mpg with the only thing really needing changed being the pads & discs every 25k miles??.

These "Supercars" do 8-12 mpg drinking the finest of Super-unleaded currently sitting at £1.45 a litre minimum? 599 has a 105 litre fuel tank compared to the GT3's 62 i believe.Insurance quote,servicing,things going wrong,pads,discs and tires all add up if your planning to actually drive it. I think a years Power warranty is £2500-£3000 for the 599 compared to your GT3's £1250 and you need to get it serviced at Ferrari or void your warranty(similar to Porsche i guess). If your planning to actually use it then be prepared i guess.

Friend is running a 612 the way you would run your everyday Mondeo and the costs are ridiculous. 8mpg town driving and 14mpg at 60-70mph motorway cruising(So just imagine trying to have a good old blast in it or a trip to Monte Carlo). Minor service came in at £1800 and the power adjusted seat being faulty cost £400 to fix. A few things fixed under warranty at crazy prices so its essential that you have one.

Sure you can find good independants with so-called fixed service pricing that could look after your car but please do your research as you could be returning to Porsche with your tail between your legs along with losing a load in depreciation.

Stunning looking car though.

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Thursday 20th October 11:17

[polar8]

ted 191 said:

Loving my 599, after gallardo's, gen2 turbo and a scud it does everything I need and more, although it does like a drink.
I'm always looking for my next car, but I'm struggling to think of anything at any price that can follow the 599.


Oohhhh and the engine

I'm always looking for my next car too. Thinking of going back into a gallrdo (lp560), I'm in a DBS at the moment. But after reading your comment - I'm now thinking about a 599. Are they really that good? Have you found the width to be an issue at all? That's what's always put me off (even if it's marginal against the DBS - the 599 looks extremely wide)

Thanks

[Diamond blue]

lotuselan7 said:

Thanks guys sounds like a real possibility. Ive got a sloping drive up to my garage which I have axle lift on my GT3 for. Do you have any exeperience with ground clearance?

I find that Ferraris are not anywhere near as low at the front as a GT3.Depends on how severe the slope is I guess.

[ted 191]

polar8 said:

I'm always looking for my next car too. Thinking of going back into a gallrdo (lp560), I'm in a DBS at the moment. But after reading your comment - I'm now thinking about a 599. Are they really that good? Have you found the width to be an issue at all? That's what's always put me off (even if it's marginal against the DBS - the 599 looks extremely wide)

Thanks

The width hasn't been a problem, it goes in the same garage space that all my other cars have fitted.
I tried a V12 vantage back to back with the 599 and it felt soft and very slow.

[UH-Matt]

ted 191 said:

polar8 said:

I'm always looking for my next car too. Thinking of going back into a gallrdo (lp560), I'm in a DBS at the moment. But after reading your comment - I'm now thinking about a 599. Are they really that good? Have you found the width to be an issue at all? That's what's always put me off (even if it's marginal against the DBS - the 599 looks extremely wide)

Thanks

The width hasn't been a problem, it goes in the same garage space that all my other cars have fitted.
I tried a V12 vantage back to back with the 599 and it felt soft and very slow.

I also thought that about the V12V. I had a dealer bring one a long way on the premise that I was going to buy it, and was left underwhelmed and unable to complete after a lengthly test drive. Such a shame as I Love the look of the V12V and very much enjoyed my V8V before I tasted true supercar performance.

[kbf1981]

Wanta996Gotta said:

lotuselan7 said:

Thanks guys sounds like a real possibility. Ive got a sloping drive up to my garage which I have axle lift on my GT3 for. Do you have any exeperience with ground clearance?

The response that mentions similar running costs to any Supercar is the key. Allot of us can maybe afford to buy these cars used nowadays but we may not be able to run them. You can service your GT3 once every 2 years for approx £1200,20-25mpg with the only thing really needing changed being the pads & discs every 25k miles??.

These "Supercars" do 8-12 mpg drinking the finest of Super-unleaded currently sitting at £1.45 a litre minimum? 599 has a 105 litre fuel tank compared to the GT3's 62 i believe.Insurance quote,servicing,things going wrong,pads,discs and tires all add up if your planning to actually drive it. I think a years Power warranty is £2500-£3000 for the 599 compared to your GT3's £1250 and you need to get it serviced at Ferrari or void your warranty(similar to Porsche i guess). If your planning to actually use it then be prepared i guess.

Friend is running a 612 the way you would run your everyday Mondeo and the costs are ridiculous. 8mpg town driving and 14mpg at 60-70mph motorway cruising(So just imagine trying to have a good old blast in it or a trip to Monte Carlo). Minor service came in at £1800 and the power adjusted seat being faulty cost £400 to fix. A few things fixed under warranty at crazy prices so its essential that you have one.

Sure you can find good independants with so-called fixed service pricing that could look after your car but please do your research as you could be returning to Porsche with your tail between your legs along with losing a load in depreciation.

Stunning looking car though.

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Thursday 20th October 11:17

Ferrari's now come with 2yr warrenty when you buy from a dealer. Petrol is £1.38 in Manchester, I think that's really low for V-Power though compared to most places.

I had though servicing was £650 for the F430 for a standard, then £1200 for a bigger one - is it that much more for the front engine GT's?

[polar8]

ted 191 said:

polar8 said:

I'm always looking for my next car too. Thinking of going back into a gallrdo (lp560), I'm in a DBS at the moment. But after reading your comment - I'm now thinking about a 599. Are they really that good? Have you found the width to be an issue at all? That's what's always put me off (even if it's marginal against the DBS - the 599 looks extremely wide)

Thanks

The width hasn't been a problem, it goes in the same garage space that all my other cars have fitted.
I tried a V12 vantage back to back with the 599 and it felt soft and very slow.

I had a V12V for 6 months. The V12 Vantage is soft and slow compared to a 599? Oh my, I must test drive a 599 in that case.

[ted 191]

polar8 said:

I had a V12V for 6 months. The V12 Vantage is soft and slow compared to a 599? Oh my, I must test drive a 599 in that case.

Be carefull, I also thought the SLS was slow and the California outright pedestrian

[woppum]

Love the 599. If I was a real man I'd have on as the daily mobile. Often look.

[PHOENIXUK]

ted 191 said:

Be carefull, I also thought the SLS was slow and the California outright pedestrian

But you haven't mentioned the car you nearly bought Chris......

[jamesparrett]

If I can help anyone with a 599, please let me know! I must state, I did work for Aston Martin for Five Years and the comments comparing the V12 Astons to the 599 are very true. The HGTE Handling Pack is a must for me though to definitely impress!

http://www.meridien.co.uk/usedcars.php?dgroup=4916...

[ted 191]

jamesparrett said:

If I can help anyone with a 599, please let me know! I must state, I did work for Aston Martin for Five Years and the comments comparing the V12 Astons to the 599 are very true. The HGTE Handling Pack is a must for me though to definitely impress!

http://www.meridien.co.uk/usedcars.php?dgroup=4916...

I nearly bought a Bentley supersport, great cars.
I also kept looking at the 599 at Meridian, great spec, but while other cars that hadn't sold got cheaper their car stayed at £125k and is why it's still there.

[Chris_VRS]

http://www.dicklovett.co.uk/Dealers/Ferrari/Used-C... ???

This one has been for sale for a while, I'm sure they would do you a deal on a HGTE kit too if it mean't selling the car!

[ted 191]

Chris_VRS said:

http://www.dicklovett.co.uk/Dealers/Ferrari/Used-C... ???

This one has been for sale for a while, I'm sure they would do you a deal on a HGTE kit too if it mean't selling the car!

HGTE kit is £20k, you may get £2/3k back come resale time.

[clorenzen]

I have a V12V and considered the 599 before buying the Aston. The 599 starts to excel when you are so far above the legal limit whereas the V12V is still fun to drive at legal speeds. I also found the size of the 599 to be an issue in town driving. Trying to go through the bollards at the Hogarth flyover was a balancing act. For town driving the 599 is simply too big but take it to Germany and let it loose on the Autobahn and you will have a blast.

[MikeO996]

I know I'm talking about higher budget, but why would anyone buy a 599 over a 458?? Isn't the 458 so good it makes every other Ferrari redundant?