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carspath
223 posts
46 months
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the countach doesnt feel scary fast from standstill (or maybe i'm just not abusing the clutch enough), but becomes interesting past 150
you really feel that you are driving it at all times though, and that is very satisfying
my prototype brooke 260 double r, felt as scary as one would expect from the car that autocar extracted a 0-60 time of 3.2 secs and 0-100 of 7.68
after 5 years i am still scared of it( which is probably a good thing ), but maybe a little less scared than i was originally
what is still just as scary with the brooke , is getting wheel-spin in 4th at 130 in the dry when on toyo T1-R's(grooved)
the same does not not happen with toyo R-888's (road-legal semi slicks)
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DMC2
596 posts
80 months
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Try going round a corner or 2 quickly and not just in a straight line
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70proof
3,088 posts
24 months
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DMC2 said: Try going round a corner or 2 quickly and not just in a straight line funny...... but if you read the op's threads, he has been getting the back out on his bull...
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GFWilliams
4,301 posts
76 months
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D16RR_Rich
236 posts
57 months
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GFWilliams said: Awesome car. Drove a factory top spec Ultima a few years ago, haven't forgotten it!!!
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carspath
223 posts
46 months
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you're quite right--my earlier comments were in reference to straight line driving.
however, have been round the odd corner in both cars over the last few years:
-with the r-888's well heated up, you can go really, really scary-fast in the brooke round corners
-in the countach, you would have to be extremelly talented (which i am not), or very casual with a rare car ,to really push it to the point of it becoming unruly on a public road, in the dry (i dont track/race my car so cannot comment on what it would be like on a circuit)
in the wet you can get it to oversteer at 20 mph, and that is really scary, when you know just how difficult it is finding a replacemnt wheel should you kerb it
the point i am trying to make is that the QV is actually well balanced, unless you are silly with it , and most owners would respect that this is a 20+ year old car that needs to be enjoyed in a different way, at least on public roads
(there are others on this PH forum who clearly love their countach, and who do take their car on track, paulqv being a prime example, and they would be far better qualified to say what it feels like at speed round a corner)
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lambo_xx
1,971 posts
66 months
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kbf1981 said: When I got my first 911 it felt (to me), scary fast! Then I gradually got used to it. Now with the LP550...that's no longer feeling scary fast, and the 997 Turbo I tried yesterday felt very nippy but not really scary.
For those who've had a greater history of fast cars, does it get the same with everything? Do you get to the stage where even Pagani's and Veyrons feel "controllable" and nippy, but not "scary fast"? I know exactly what you mean. I think the thng is like everything you just get used it it, so the speed becomes less "shocking" and therefore less scary. That's certainly what happened to me. I remember when I was a kid probably about 10-11 and someone took me for a blast in their BMW 325, at the time if felt absolutely insanely fast whereas now most cars don't give me that insane pin you back in your seat and be terrified type of speed, however that doesn't mean I don't enjoy it. I absolutely do, it's just I've gotten used to it. Hopefully you've managed to follow me through that exceedingly lengthy way of just saying yes 
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Cactussed
4,314 posts
82 months
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Used to find that with turbocharging. You're constantly looking for ways to wind the wick up a bit further. you get the initial thrill. then you get used to it and need more grunt.
Then somehting goes pop and its time for a rebuild.
IMHO, the trick is to find somehting that entertains you without the need for speed thrills (eg, noise, handling etc).
Check out the Harris video of the C63 on space savers...
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rosino
171 posts
41 months
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kbf1981 said: To be honest I'm thinking of getting a hot hatch as a day to day ride in future - something you can park without worrying about it getting keyed / parking dents etc...and that can carry other people and shopping lol! I miss my Focus ST a little bit too, that was an awesome car! 100pct agree.. Feel will do same, GTI for everyday and proper car for the good days. Keeps costs down and you enjoy the special second car even more... Or actually don't start hating it as often these cars just hate mundane drives... Unless you commute in Wales or Tuscany that is...
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AJSG
295 posts
56 months
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andysv said: i think you get used to most things fairly std and street legal i have a suzuki hayabusa that i don't ride so much now, if i took it out today it would give me a big shock at first, but you do get used to roughly 150 in 10 secs after a time, the fastest feeling cars i have been in are modified porsche turbos, that slug of torque really gets you in the stomach but you probably take that for granted after a while, i always fancied an atom s/c but have only ever driven the boggo std one, i would imagine it's almost as much scary/fun as you can have with four wheels on the road. Don't you find that cars get quite exciting in acceleration but bikes, even your one, you get used to very quickly indeed. Ultimately thought bikes are substancially more exciting and in my opinion require a lot more skill to get round a track fast.
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JCB123
2,089 posts
65 months
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Are Ferraris and Lambos supposed to feel 'scary fast'?
I thought that's what TVRs were for? Power in a straight line, and not much else!
Supercars are an accomplished blend of power, looks and handling.....didn't really think they should feel scary....?
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Le TVR
2,233 posts
120 months
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I would say that its all relative. Doesn't matter whether its four wheels or two, whatever performance you have available will eventually feel commonplace.
About 30 years ago I did a shakedown on a friends TZ700 Yamaha around Lydden. That has remained my benchmark of scary fast and nothing on 2 or 4 wheels since has ever come close.
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AJSG
295 posts
56 months
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Le TVR said: I would say that its all relative. Doesn't matter whether its four wheels or two, whatever performance you have available will eventually feel commonplace.
About 30 years ago I did a shakedown on a friends TZ700 Yamaha around Lydden. That has remained my benchmark of scary fast and nothing on 2 or 4 wheels since has ever come close. Maybe...personally I never got bored, or "not scared" of bikes....but cars I found (in my limited track/ARDS experience) to be much easier to drive at 9/10ths. You never get over that sensation of flying over the mountain at Cadwell, having to land in time to avoid the tree, whilst not hitting/landing on the bike in front of you...etc etc...
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Tyrewrecker
6,419 posts
23 months
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JCB123 said: Are Ferraris and Lambos supposed to feel 'scary fast'?
I thought that's what TVRs were for? Power in a straight line, and not much else!
Supercars are an accomplished blend of power, looks and handling.....didn't really think they should feel scary....? I have been in a koenigsegg, scary fast yes!
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GFWilliams
4,301 posts
76 months
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JCB123 said: Supercars are an accomplished blend of power, looks and handling.....didn't really think they should feel scary....? I had a passenger ride in a 700+hp 911 Turbo in the wet at Bruntingthorpe. That was scary! 204mph in the wet :O
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Zippee
9,456 posts
103 months
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I think whatever you have you'll always get used to at some point. I've driven 996 turbos and whilst they're F.Off fast they didn't feel scary. A bike engined Tiger on the other hand, sitting inches form the ground with no screen or doors - wow!!
Again, not quite in the same league as some supercars but my TVR - 3.6 litre engine 0-60 4.4 seconds so enough to keep with most. To me it feels, not slow, but just not exciting. Currently having the engine rebuilt to 4.3 which should give circa 365bhp per tonne at the wheels so a massive notch up in terms of performance and feel to get used to again.
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ian_uk1975
925 posts
71 months
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Yep, the slow daily driver idea is a good one and has a lot of things going for it... I drive a P-reg shed of a Volvo V40 as a daily driver, then have a choice of 2 cars, 1 with 450bhp/ton and the other with 400bhp/ton, so they always feel quick after the Volvo. I can also leave the Volvo parked anywhere without being worried about it picking-up a parking ding or a scratch and can drive around without being goaded by other drivers into racing 
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paulqv
2,385 posts
64 months
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wineman02 said: Like a 328 Always get my heart racing! I agree. having different cars to drive makes you always think one is fast! If you drive something fast everyday and drive it that way, then apart from risking prison you feel that everyone else is slow until you look down at the speedo! |You can get used to anything, just the opportunities to use it at max power are in general so limited! To me the wee 328 is all the power and performance you can actually normally use!
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JamieBeeston
8,694 posts
134 months
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This is partly why I love the F40.. its less about the overall power and more about how its delivered in one sledgehammer-like dose.. The acceleration is so brutal that you (ok I) instinctively find myself backing off for no other reason than shock / panic! Whilst having the Turbos serviced I was asked if I wanted to replace the bushes with newer variants which will allow it to spool up quicker and produce the power in a more linear fashion... I said hell no.. give me turbo lag and then boom <smile> whooosh. I almost feel like I have to hang on to the steering wheel to stop the car leaving me behind Will I lose this feeling?... In time.. I'm sure I'll become more accustomed to it.. but as with the super bikes before.. it only takes a little break for you to forget just how visceral the things are
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Bund
2,467 posts
90 months
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If you want to go very fast get into Racing, if you want to see a car really handle get into Racing. Track days are a pain if you can drive quick nearly in any form of a Race car. I have a fast road car and it has more power/torque/bhp p/t than my racing Caterham. If I had the means to repair my road car should I prang it as I have my race car when trying to extract every last bit of grip and skill out of the car and myself on track I could lap any circuit quicker in the road car. My point is, supercars for the road have a lot of track r/d. Going fast in a straight line to me is pointless on the road, coming off the M25 Jct 12 coming towards London is a good bend but not many are driving their cars to the point where they brake loose(well I did when I was younger and spun a ford Ka on said bend after following a 911 at the same speed, no surprise), revving my car loudly is also pointless.
Getting off the point, Im the same age as OP(from his name) and I have owned sports-mild super cars since I was 24. I have always enjoyed racing but being a driver not just watching. I decided very late that having the fastest car in the carpark is not what driving is about to me. As this thread is about going fast I thought my point would be valid. A lot of people say they dont have the time to race, personally I think thats usually just an excuse(certainly if some of the posters on this particular forum was to say so).
You will never get bored and never need to ask on a forum about becoming used to speed.
Actually Racing cars is one of the best things I chose to do, it was just a shame I didnt think like this 7 years ago. I cant remember one car getting me laid!! haha
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