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TurboTerrific9
156 posts
30 months
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612 for me, really super all round GT (albeit a seriously quick one) and kids are not a problem, back seats are big enough for Adults. engine is bulletproof, they sound fab and will depreciate less than the Maser if you buy an earlyish car. Looks not to everyone's taste but it has grown on me and i don't think looks dated. My only recommendation is make sure you go for one with the handling pack if you can stretch to it as they are much more responsive to drive, Servicing costs are around GBP 1200 pa although there's a big one every four years which can be as much as 3k.
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JasonSF
170 posts
78 months
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Keep the 360 and buy something with real back seats that has some appeal. Alfa 147 GTA? Maserati Ghibli GT?
If I had to buy from your list it would be a 456M GT. nicer looking than a 612 and more space in the back.
911 great car but rear seats are tight
Only my opinion.
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Kilsoj
Original Poster
70 posts
32 months
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I like the 456 but really prefer the 612 looks wise, think it is because someone once saw a 456 and argued that it was a Porsche 944....... Kind of put me off. It leaves me a dilemma as if I decide to stick to the two seat option will prob go to 550 or 430 but still think will get more use in four seater
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456GT
116 posts
47 months
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Kilsoj said: I like the 456 but really prefer the 612 looks wise, think it is because someone once saw a 456 and argued that it was a Porsche 944....... Kind of put me off. A friend once observed that the front of my 456 looked like a Ford Probe. I have never looked at either car in quite the same way since...
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dsgv6
118 posts
90 months
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SirMark said: My two pennies worth would be an Aston DB9 I looked at this since i also really need a 4 seater but the DB9 is not an option. The rear seats are unusable and only good for luggage space. Has to be a 612 or Maser GT i think.
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scotpak
191 posts
36 months
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The maser GTS is also a much better looking car than the 612.
For a ferrari, the 612 is pretty ugly.
Ive got a maserati GTS MC SHIFT, and its a great family car. Backseats have ISOFIX, so you can clip the baby seats straight in. Plus the back seats
are big enough to house 6ft+ adults in the back too.
Also has enough poke for the fun factor.
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David911RSR
928 posts
79 months
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I am in a similar position. I currently run a 7 Series barge to leave at the train station/airport, my wife has a Disco 4 and my weekend car is a 911 C4S. My kids are aged 8 & 5 and have have plenty of room in the 911.
After 4 years of ownership ( the longest I have ever owned a car) it is time for a change. I am considering the GT S MC Shift, 997 GTS and the 997 Turbo .
I had a 20 minute test drive in the GTS MC Shift Sport a few weeks ago and found the ride to be excellent, interior very nice and spacious and the sound track was epic. I didn't take to the MC Shift and whilst the sheer size of the car is fine when tootling around, it will requires much larger spaces when hopping past the Sunday drivers on country roads.
From a depreciation point of view, the demonstrator I drove was already marked down by 25K. There are a lot of new and pre-registered GT's sitting at dealers with various levels of discount being applied. I therefore believe the residual values will take a significant hit as the dealers try to clear slow selling stock.
I am not saying Maserati are alone with regard to potentially challenging residuals, we are already seeing discounts on new 991's to the tune of 10% and this will no doubt affect 997 prices. With this in mind, I am also considering classic options.
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Kilsoj
Original Poster
70 posts
32 months
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Hmmmm that def makes me think that the Ferrari is a better option. Should depreciate slightly less than the GT if Maserati are going to "flood" market with cheaper newer cars. Other option I'm now considering is keeping the 360 and buying an early ish quattroporte along side it. Any thoughts?
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matc
4,272 posts
76 months
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Kilsoj said: Hmmmm that def makes me think that the Ferrari is a better option. Should depreciate slightly less than the GT if Maserati are going to "flood" market with cheaper newer cars. Other option I'm now considering is keeping the 360 and buying an early ish quattroporte along side it. Any thoughts? I think by reading your posts so far that it's pretty clear you want the 612 - why not just go that route as you'll only be wondering 'what-if' if you buy anything else.
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Kilsoj
Original Poster
70 posts
32 months
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What I really want is my cake and eat it. I love my 360 and would like to keep it so 612 + 360 would be best option but not happening. I love cars and don't really spend money on anything else. Therefore huge depreciation is something that I expect but like to minimise. 612 ticks a lot of my boxes but wonder how the residuals will hold up over time. They seem to be a very "marmite" car an even the 456 seems a lot more popular to me
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EC2
671 posts
122 months
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David911RSR said: I am in a similar position. I currently run a 7 Series barge to leave at the train station/airport, my wife has a Disco 4 and my weekend car is a 911 C4S. My kids are aged 8 & 5 and have have plenty of room in the 911.
After 4 years of ownership ( the longest I have ever owned a car) it is time for a change. I am considering the GT S MC Shift, 997 GTS and the 997 Turbo .
I had a 20 minute test drive in the GTS MC Shift Sport a few weeks ago and found the ride to be excellent, interior very nice and spacious and the sound track was epic. I didn't take to the MC Shift and whilst the sheer size of the car is fine when tootling around, it will requires much larger spaces when hopping past the Sunday drivers on country roads.
From a depreciation point of view, the demonstrator I drove was already marked down by 25K. There are a lot of new and pre-registered GT's sitting at dealers with various levels of discount being applied. I therefore believe the residual values will take a significant hit as the dealers try to clear slow selling stock.
I am not saying Maserati are alone with regard to potentially challenging residuals, we are already seeing discounts on new 991's to the tune of 10% and this will no doubt affect 997 prices. With this in mind, I am also considering classic options. Have a try in the Granturismo GTS Auto if you do not like the MC shift. In Sport Manual mode the gearbox is great to my mind. There are deals on new cars - as there always have been - and demos are always cheaper but they are 6-12 months old at resale and are not in the spec you would order new. When I bought my new GTS Auto, I also found that physical cars had a lot more spec on than I wanted so they were not as cheap relatively speaking as you might think.
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EC2
671 posts
122 months
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Kilsoj said: What I really want is my cake and eat it. I love my 360 and would like to keep it so 612 + 360 would be best option but not happening. I love cars and don't really spend money on anything else. Therefore huge depreciation is something that I expect but like to minimise. 612 ticks a lot of my boxes but wonder how the residuals will hold up over time. They seem to be a very "marmite" car an even the 456 seems a lot more popular to me If you really want the 612 then go for it. Personally I have never liked the looks of the 612/599 and love the Grantursimo which is why I bought one! As for the 456, it was one of my favourite cars from the mid nighties to the mid noughties but I now feel it looks old. As a classic purchase that is fine but not as a DD to my mind.
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matc
4,272 posts
76 months
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I think as a 612 ages it'll gain a few more followers, at its current price it's still off of a lot of peoples radar.
I'd have one in a shot if the OH would let me allocate enough money to the car fund. When they come down a bit I'll have one.
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Scottish16M
162 posts
23 months
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612's will stabilise pricewise circa £40-£50k, as such early ones are now great value, but they are 7 years old...caveat, if you're buying one you must have a PPI carried out as these are older v12 Ferrari's & parts/repairs are not cheap.
I've had 2 GranTurismo S MC Shift's and they are great 4 seaters with the best Italian v8 noise out there...I now have a Maserati MC Stradale which I adore, so its a thumbs up for the GranTurismo from me!
If I were in your shoes, as you love your 360, keep it and add an early Quattraporte Duo-select and providing you drive it like a manual, with the paddles, you will have huge fun, drive it like an auto and you'll find the gear charges very lumpy..but these are great value and very enjoyable cars to own, which have a great presence on the roads...again a PPI is a must!
Good luck.
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Egbert Nobacon
2,763 posts
112 months
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woppum
652 posts
55 months
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andysv
1,066 posts
96 months
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I have seen a clk black with rear seats fitted on mobile de, funny thing is i'm only selling mine as i want a fast 4 seater too.
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kryten22uk
1,320 posts
100 months
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Scottish16M said: I've had 2 GranTurismo S MC Shift's and they are great 4 seaters with the best Italian v8 noise out there...I now have a Maserati MC Stradale which I adore, so its a thumbs up for the GranTurismo from me! Love all the halfords bits on the MC Stradale, shame they dont have the rear seats though. Not sure who they think they're kidding on that score. Its one huuuuge car to be calling itself a 2-seater.
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Kilsoj
Original Poster
70 posts
32 months
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Actually thinking may now keep the 360 as my toy and buy an e90 m5.
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V8Smith
3,432 posts
122 months
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David911RSR said: I am in a similar position. I currently run a 7 Series barge to leave at the train station/airport, my wife has a Disco 4 and my weekend car is a 911 C4S. My kids are aged 8 & 5 and have have plenty of room in the 911.
After 4 years of ownership ( the longest I have ever owned a car) it is time for a change. I am considering the GT S MC Shift, 997 GTS and the 997 Turbo .
I had a 20 minute test drive in the GTS MC Shift Sport a few weeks ago and found the ride to be excellent, interior very nice and spacious and the sound track was epic. I didn't take to the MC Shift and whilst the sheer size of the car is fine when tootling around, it will requires much larger spaces when hopping past the Sunday drivers on country roads.
From a depreciation point of view, the demonstrator I drove was already marked down by 25K. There are a lot of new and pre-registered GT's sitting at dealers with various levels of discount being applied. I therefore believe the residual values will take a significant hit as the dealers try to clear slow selling stock.
I am not saying Maserati are alone with regard to potentially challenging residuals, we are already seeing discounts on new 991's to the tune of 10% and this will no doubt affect 997 prices. With this in mind, I am also considering classic options. It appears we have the same taste in cars, I have a Maser GTS MC Shift and a Disco 4 having just sold a 997 C2S  Another vote for the GTS from me, had mine 2 months and absolutely love it, not as sporty as the 911, but as a sense of occasion the maser puts a smile on your face like the 911 couldn't. Very practical too, isofix base in the back and my 6'2 brother sits in the back comfortably, no better sounding car..... Drive one. They are also holding values ok losing around £5k ish a year once they get to about £65k from what I see.
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