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ditchvisitor said:
I had a bit of a random encounter with Jay Kay today in his GTO on the M40, I saw it coming up in the middle lane and wound down my window to hear the noise, he must have seen me do it as he pulled along side and then booted it off into the distance, I then caught back up with him after a few miles and gave him the thumbs up and then took the slip road, he also turned off and then wound down the window at the junction and had a quick car chat! Top bloke!
We've got our air show and car event at the RAF base I'm based at on Monday and I stupidly didn't think to throw out the offer for him to bring a car along and look at some proper helicopters!
He's on here apparently so you never know, you might get a PM We've got our air show and car event at the RAF base I'm based at on Monday and I stupidly didn't think to throw out the offer for him to bring a car along and look at some proper helicopters!
Edited by ditchvisitor on Saturday 18th July 22:01
Chiefly said:
As a casual observer I'd agree with you, but what did you think when you drove the GTO; or haven't you? The looks, the V12 sound, the driver involvement and the overall experience is quite mesmerising. Cold tyres and wheel spinning at stupid speeds, it's not something to push hard if you don't know how to drive, are half asleep or the road is wet - get a 458 to cover those. Peak horsepower is in the upper echelons of the rev range so unless you want to be sideways you need to anticipate it being on-cam.
A lot of the 599 GTOs are now with the second gen' of owners but the original owners paid fewer pounds than they sold them for. However, they did have to wait 5+ years for that. Even so, the GTO has never been cheap.
No one is denying the market is hot but really at this stage of the game it depends on your level of paranoia, negativity, soberness or experience. Of course, it may be about owning something that you want to keep come-what-may but appreciate that is a boring for the market crashers.
Anyway, can't say too much incase I get accused of talking up prices on a car fan site. So I'll leave with this - the 599 GTO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ld_K-7-4Y
I wish I could drive a 599 GTO - I am only 21 and still a student. Although I saw a beautiful GTO at the Ferrari Concours at Stapleford Park, Rosso Fuoco with a Tricolore Stripe and a Black Roof. Absolutely Beautiful and sounded heavenly on startup! I have heard you generally have to be a pretty handy driver to hustle them at pace! A lot of the 599 GTOs are now with the second gen' of owners but the original owners paid fewer pounds than they sold them for. However, they did have to wait 5+ years for that. Even so, the GTO has never been cheap.
No one is denying the market is hot but really at this stage of the game it depends on your level of paranoia, negativity, soberness or experience. Of course, it may be about owning something that you want to keep come-what-may but appreciate that is a boring for the market crashers.
Anyway, can't say too much incase I get accused of talking up prices on a car fan site. So I'll leave with this - the 599 GTO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ld_K-7-4Y
Nope They were about 1 year ago, maybe 1 1/2 years ago about the £280-310k mark, then the ex tamara eccleston sold at £350k, but I can't believe in 6 months a car with nearly 2000 miles more is worth double the money, Im sorry I just can't. Surely prospective buyers must see that is just too much for that particular vehicle, I also think you're into F40/F50 territory at that kind of money.
The market as it is, is not a sustainable market, it seems far more speculative to me than anything else?
mattf93 said:
I wish I could drive a 599 GTO - I am only 21 and still a student. Although I saw a beautiful GTO at the Ferrari Concours at Stapleford Park, Rosso Fuoco with a Tricolore Stripe and a Black Roof. Absolutely Beautiful and sounded heavenly on startup! I have heard you generally have to be a pretty handy driver to hustle them at pace!
Nope They were about 1 year ago, maybe 1 1/2 years ago about the £280-310k mark, then the ex tamara eccleston sold at £350k, but I can't believe in 6 months a car with nearly 2000 miles more is worth double the money, Im sorry I just can't. Surely prospective buyers must see that is just too much for that particular vehicle, I also think you're into F40/F50 territory at that kind of money.
The market as it is, is not a sustainable market, it seems far more speculative to me than anything else?
This thread might be of interest to you. This was Nov 13.Nope They were about 1 year ago, maybe 1 1/2 years ago about the £280-310k mark, then the ex tamara eccleston sold at £350k, but I can't believe in 6 months a car with nearly 2000 miles more is worth double the money, Im sorry I just can't. Surely prospective buyers must see that is just too much for that particular vehicle, I also think you're into F40/F50 territory at that kind of money.
The market as it is, is not a sustainable market, it seems far more speculative to me than anything else?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Crazy. and thanks for linking me to the thread so I got to see Tam Ecclestones car, that was sat in my lottery garage on auto trader for ages (I was going to drive it a tiny bit then keep it as an investment as I foresaw which way it was going to go). Price I think started around £310k to begin with though. Cream leather interior rather than suede though.
andrew said:
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woppum said:
Pork said:
Very nice! Was that formerly AndrewD's car?
He was the first owner yes. Lovely spec even if he left a smell that I can't get rid of!mattf93 said:
Crazy. and thanks for linking me to the thread so I got to see Tam Ecclestones car, that was sat in my lottery garage on auto trader for ages (I was going to drive it a tiny bit then keep it as an investment as I foresaw which way it was going to go). Price I think started around £310k to begin with though. Cream leather interior rather than suede though.
That's the car I bought in Grey with Cream Leather and just 280 miles. Love it!! Took it to Italy and added another 1400 incredible mikes. Great motor and a keeper and as I got it for the then asking price not a bad deal!
FalconWood said:
added another 1400 incredible mikes.
Blimey, there's a lot of space in these GTOs.Seriously though I'll always have a soft spot for the 599 GTO, a nice gentleman let me have a look around and chat about his Rosso Fuoco one in Knutsford a few years ago. Sounded amazing on the road, that'd make it worth every penny for me.
FalconWood said:
That's the car I bought in Grey with Cream Leather and just 280 miles. Love it!! Took it to Italy and added another 1400 incredible mikes. Great motor and a keeper and as I got it for the then asking price not a bad deal!
599 GTOs are amazing, drove one only a few miles but so much more to it than a standard 599, Dick Lovett have my ideal one at the moment, RHD too.
Cie said:
Blimey, there's a lot of space in these GTOs.
Seriously though I'll always have a soft spot for the 599 GTO, a nice gentleman let me have a look around and chat about his Rosso Fuoco one in Knutsford a few years ago. Sounded amazing on the road, that'd make it worth every penny for me.
Saw a Rosso Fuoco one at the Ferrari National Concourse at stapleford park a couple of weekends ago. Had a tricolour stripe, and black roof, seriously stunning in the flesh.Seriously though I'll always have a soft spot for the 599 GTO, a nice gentleman let me have a look around and chat about his Rosso Fuoco one in Knutsford a few years ago. Sounded amazing on the road, that'd make it worth every penny for me.
However Id prefer
falconwood said:
599gto personally, I was watching that car for ages, had it saved in my auto trader app praying my numbers on the lottery would come up so I could buy it. Even back then I saw that the values would soon start to rocket with that car. And at the time I thought it was reasonably priced considering spec and mileage. Im definitely jealous of you Falcon, but glad you are actually driving it a bit rather than keeping it locked away! How does it fair up on the GT credentials and a long drive over to Italy? Anything that has surprised you in ownership?
mattf93 said:
Cie said:
Blimey, there's a lot of space in these GTOs.
Seriously though I'll always have a soft spot for the 599 GTO, a nice gentleman let me have a look around and chat about his Rosso Fuoco one in Knutsford a few years ago. Sounded amazing on the road, that'd make it worth every penny for me.
Saw a Rosso Fuoco one at the Ferrari National Concourse at stapleford park a couple of weekends ago. Had a tricolour stripe, and black roof, seriously stunning in the flesh.Seriously though I'll always have a soft spot for the 599 GTO, a nice gentleman let me have a look around and chat about his Rosso Fuoco one in Knutsford a few years ago. Sounded amazing on the road, that'd make it worth every penny for me.
However Id prefer
falconwood said:
599gto personally, I was watching that car for ages, had it saved in my auto trader app praying my numbers on the lottery would come up so I could buy it. Even back then I saw that the values would soon start to rocket with that car. And at the time I thought it was reasonably priced considering spec and mileage. Im definitely jealous of you Falcon, but glad you are actually driving it a bit rather than keeping it locked away! How does it fair up on the GT credentials and a long drive over to Italy? Anything that has surprised you in ownership?
FalconWood said:
The great thing about this car is that you can drive miles and miles comfortably and with little road noise interference (nice when with the Misses!). It has loads of room for bags etc in the boot without cramping the cabin. BUT it can turn into a beast in a milli-second when needed. Then it sounds awesome (especially in Race mode) and then it is a completely different animal. I have to say I cheated in Italy. I couldn't face the long drive over the continent, which I had done thrice in one of my other sports cars over the last three years, so I had it professionally transported to the airport in Italy and did all the miles whilst in Italy itself. We went to the Italian Lakes and had some great drives over there up on all sorts of roads. The other thing I like about this particular car is that the colour scheme actually "hides" the car. Not many people know what it is let alone it being a GTO so you get around with less fuss! I was looking at a red one in Manchester when I bought this one and it just looked less in your face which suited me.
I like being under the radar in that kind of a thing, I remember when Matt Munson went with his friend in his Rosso Corsa LaF, to pick up his friends Light Grey Laf from the factory, theres a photo in a petrol station where there's crowds round his red car, but none round the silver/grey LaF even though they are filling up in adjacent pumps! I think the GTO looks much better in darker colours, although rosso fuoco does look rather lovely. Ideal specs for me would Be Grigio Silverstone, Tour De France Blue, or Rosso Fuoco. Probably with cream leather, they just seem to work.
You certainly picked a good colour, as darker colours go slightly more unnoticed. but if it was rosso scuderia or something like that everyone would know you've arrived (if they hadn't already heard that sensational noise already).
Also appreciate why you'd fly the car over, as although you have driven it, it is still a mileage sensitive vehicle, if indeed you still see it as investment as well as a great car?
woppum said:
Cant seem to get away from your cars on social media at the moment Wops, they're bloody everywhere - your speciale does get about - lovely photo of it in Knightsbridge on Such_supercars . Black does look beastly on the GTO but I think In this instance id prefer your speciale - such a first world problem to have! Hope you enjoyed thrashing the red old girl round Anglesey with Anjum and the rest! mattf93 said:
Cant seem to get away from your cars on social media at the moment Wops, they're bloody everywhere - your speciale does get about - lovely photo of it in Knightsbridge on Such_supercars . Black does look beastly on the GTO but I think In this instance id prefer your speciale - such a first world problem to have! Hope you enjoyed thrashing the red old girl round Anglesey with Anjum and the rest!
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