599 GTO

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epom

11,529 posts

161 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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There is one on the classifieds for nearly £800k ????

Camlet

1,132 posts

149 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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mattf93 said:
Camlet said:
mattf93 said:
Camlet said:
The GTO is very special, in fairness most Ferraris are. I adore the Aston heritage but for reasons well known while they've always been beautiful they're just off the pace in handling and performance, compared to Ferrari. I nearly bought the first Vanquish in 1998, until I drove a 550. The Maranello was a different league. Blew it away in everything except looks. I still have my 550, and it's better with each passing year, including its design, which to me now looks way better than the old Vanquish.

Per my GTO, it's Grigio Ferro, Silverstone roof, grey alloys, aluminium calipers and CF. Interior: charcoal alcantara, nero leather and lots of CF. She has siblings inc the 550 and others but the one Mrs C likes most? The 599 GTO. So it isn't going anywhere. I'd be packed off first.

Regarding current pricing of the 599 GTO, I understand what's driving this but it doesn't make it any less remarkable. Makes a good F40 and F50 seem cheap. That can't be right. But in an environment of long term low interest rates (and given the Yuan reduction yesterday) assets like LE Ferraris are clearly extremely desirable. The recent craving for Speciale Apertas and the feeding frenzy on the yet to be launched LE F12 VS, crazy times continue.



Edited by Camlet on Wednesday 12th August 07:10
Perhaps with the Astons it's something you should do later on in life (thinking of vanquish and DB9) when you don't want to be absolutely on it. I. Think they will always lack the ferocity of a Ferrari, but I don't think they've ever tried to go toe to toe dynamically with Ferrari. The new vanquish in my eyes is beautiful and sounds lovely, it looks like the perfect GT car in coupe or Volante form (I would love either) a friend just sold his DBS Volante and its one of my favourite cars I've been in, there's just something about them - perhaps it's an itch you still need to scratch at some point?

Your GTO sounds like a lovey spec, I presume considering your other toys you've had from new and RHD - lovely Speciale Aperta you have btw - my choice of colour on one! Have you driven her much?

Some dealers are pushing the 599 GTO as the next big thing ( I realised this when they were sat at £300-£350k they were next as Falcon well knows buying his car That I at the time(late 2013/early2014) earmarked lottery money with haha). Lovetts I think at 700k won't sell and Stering Autos are having an absolute Laugh at £850k although the market is favouring limited edition Ferraris there has to be a line somewhere?

Edited by mattf93 on Wednesday 12th August 08:49
Great points per Aston analysis. Hadn't thought of it quite like that but what you say makes much sense. Will be interesting to see where Andy Palmer takes AM, he's a very smart guy. Per my 599 GTO, I've attached a pic of her. Yes, I bought her from new and it's 100% UK RHD spec! Do I drive her much? I've other wonderful distractions but hell yes. These cars must be driven - it's not just an emotive thing, they're bloody machines and laid up for too long you've nothing but issues. Thanks re the Speciale, she's fab - just completed a superb drive to Italy in her. The Aperta is not due until end September, I've done it in the exact same spec as the coupe. Finally, I agree with your point about the upper price points. About 6 months ago a large indie dealer offered me £ 525K for my GTO even though I wasn't asking and definitely wasn't selling. Gives you some idea of the spread. Cheers.



Edited by Camlet on Wednesday 12th August 11:43



This was a Rosso Fuoco with Tricolore Stripe 599 GTO I saw at the FOC concours at Stapleford park, look beautiful when the sun came out! (click to enlarge the photo if it appears blurred)

The GTO really does look special. and yours is a lovely example. have you got many miles on yours now? (not that its overly relevant to you as its good to hear you drive it)
Yup the V12 GT Cars will never be as hyper sensitive as a ferrari, respond at the flip of a switch, the thing that Ive been told most is the engine doesnt rev high enough it needs another 500-1000rpm over its red line (I think its 6.85k) a Mclaren 12c which is turbocharged revs higher than that! Also you should try a vanquish with the updated 8 speed gearbox as apparently it transforms the car (64 reg on), worth at least a test drive? But if you're used to 599GTO/F12 its an entirely different drive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMHpMCVIuEc This video by Evo is well worth a watch on the cars (compares F12 with Aventador and Vanquish with the 6 speed automated manual gearbox rather than 8 speed ZF unit in the updated car (also does over 200mph now and 0-62 has dropped to 3.7/3.8 I think which for a heavier car is good going)
Cheers. Thanks for the vid. Great pics too; the 550 really does get sweeter by the year.

mon the fish

1,416 posts

148 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Thanks for the reply Camlet, helped to put it into perspective for a lowly 550 owner biggrin

FalconWood

1,360 posts

197 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Camlet said:
mattf93 said:
Camlet said:
mattf93 said:
Camlet said:
The GTO is very special, in fairness most Ferraris are. I adore the Aston heritage but for reasons well known while they've always been beautiful they're just off the pace in handling and performance, compared to Ferrari. I nearly bought the first Vanquish in 1998, until I drove a 550. The Maranello was a different league. Blew it away in everything except looks. I still have my 550, and it's better with each passing year, including its design, which to me now looks way better than the old Vanquish.

Per my GTO, it's Grigio Ferro, Silverstone roof, grey alloys, aluminium calipers and CF. Interior: charcoal alcantara, nero leather and lots of CF. She has siblings inc the 550 and others but the one Mrs C likes most? The 599 GTO. So it isn't going anywhere. I'd be packed off first.

Regarding current pricing of the 599 GTO, I understand what's driving this but it doesn't make it any less remarkable. Makes a good F40 and F50 seem cheap. That can't be right. But in an environment of long term low interest rates (and given the Yuan reduction yesterday) assets like LE Ferraris are clearly extremely desirable. The recent craving for Speciale Apertas and the feeding frenzy on the yet to be launched LE F12 VS, crazy times continue.



Edited by Camlet on Wednesday 12th August 07:10
Perhaps with the Astons it's something you should do later on in life (thinking of vanquish and DB9) when you don't want to be absolutely on it. I. Think they will always lack the ferocity of a Ferrari, but I don't think they've ever tried to go toe to toe dynamically with Ferrari. The new vanquish in my eyes is beautiful and sounds lovely, it looks like the perfect GT car in coupe or Volante form (I would love either) a friend just sold his DBS Volante and its one of my favourite cars I've been in, there's just something about them - perhaps it's an itch you still need to scratch at some point?

Your GTO sounds like a lovey spec, I presume considering your other toys you've had from new and RHD - lovely Speciale Aperta you have btw - my choice of colour on one! Have you driven her much?

Some dealers are pushing the 599 GTO as the next big thing ( I realised this when they were sat at £300-£350k they were next as Falcon well knows buying his car That I at the time(late 2013/early2014) earmarked lottery money with haha). Lovetts I think at 700k won't sell and Stering Autos are having an absolute Laugh at £850k although the market is favouring limited edition Ferraris there has to be a line somewhere?

Edited by mattf93 on Wednesday 12th August 08:49
Great points per Aston analysis. Hadn't thought of it quite like that but what you say makes much sense. Will be interesting to see where Andy Palmer takes AM, he's a very smart guy. Per my 599 GTO, I've attached a pic of her. Yes, I bought her from new and it's 100% UK RHD spec! Do I drive her much? I've other wonderful distractions but hell yes. These cars must be driven - it's not just an emotive thing, they're bloody machines and laid up for too long you've nothing but issues. Thanks re the Speciale, she's fab - just completed a superb drive to Italy in her. The Aperta is not due until end September, I've done it in the exact same spec as the coupe. Finally, I agree with your point about the upper price points. About 6 months ago a large indie dealer offered me £ 525K for my GTO even though I wasn't asking and definitely wasn't selling. Gives you some idea of the spread. Cheers.



Edited by Camlet on Wednesday 12th August 11:43



This was a Rosso Fuoco with Tricolore Stripe 599 GTO I saw at the FOC concours at Stapleford park, look beautiful when the sun came out! (click to enlarge the photo if it appears blurred)

The GTO really does look special. and yours is a lovely example. have you got many miles on yours now? (not that its overly relevant to you as its good to hear you drive it)
Yup the V12 GT Cars will never be as hyper sensitive as a ferrari, respond at the flip of a switch, the thing that Ive been told most is the engine doesnt rev high enough it needs another 500-1000rpm over its red line (I think its 6.85k) a Mclaren 12c which is turbocharged revs higher than that! Also you should try a vanquish with the updated 8 speed gearbox as apparently it transforms the car (64 reg on), worth at least a test drive? But if you're used to 599GTO/F12 its an entirely different drive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMHpMCVIuEc This video by Evo is well worth a watch on the cars (compares F12 with Aventador and Vanquish with the 6 speed automated manual gearbox rather than 8 speed ZF unit in the updated car (also does over 200mph now and 0-62 has dropped to 3.7/3.8 I think which for a heavier car is good going)
Cheers. Thanks for the vid. Great pics too; the 550 really does get sweeter by the year.


I am fortunate to own a 550! Many dont like the shape but I think it is absolutely beautiful!!!

purpleperil

1,214 posts

284 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Oops - anyone here?
Ferrari 599 GTO Damaged In London Streets - http://totalthrottle.com/ferrari-599-gto-damaged-i...

mattf93

1,273 posts

115 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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FalconWood said:


I am fortunate to own a 550! Many dont like the shape but I think it is absolutely beautiful!!!
Not just any old 550 - a barchetta! How many did they make of those?

Purpleperil said:
Thats just a standard 599 - not a GTO wink looks like someones crashed into the front wing rather than the owner?

FalconWood

1,360 posts

197 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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mattf93 said:
FalconWood said:


I am fortunate to own a 550! Many dont like the shape but I think it is absolutely beautiful!!!
Not just any old 550 - a barchetta! How many did they make of those?

Purpleperil said:
Thats just a standard 599 - not a GTO wink looks like someones crashed into the front wing rather than the owner?
I believe 498 in total and another 10% were RHD like this one

jtremlett

1,376 posts

222 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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FalconWood said:
I believe 498 in total and another 10% were RHD like this one
A bit of a digression in a thread headed 599 GTO, but 42 550 Barchettas delivered new to the UK.

Jonathan



epom

11,529 posts

161 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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purpleperil said:
Oops - anyone here?
Ferrari 599 GTO Damaged In London Streets - http://totalthrottle.com/ferrari-599-gto-damaged-i...
Just, and I repeat 'just' a standard 599 smile

Davey S2

13,096 posts

254 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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FalconWood said:


I am fortunate to own a 550! Many dont like the shape but I think it is absolutely beautiful!!!
So do I - with the roof off!

Not quite so elegant looking with the roof on.

575 Superamerica seems a better concept but prices of these have also gone silly.

AbzST64

578 posts

189 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Anyone on here?? https://youtu.be/yYknzI3QRWc

The guy 'Yiannimize' wraps a GTO roof and mirrors!!

Stunning machine! cloud9