£3.5million for a Mac F1
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z4chris99 said:
and who's is the nice orange one next to it.
not mine 
but its owned by someone who knows a thing or 2 about fast cars.Pork said:
Is that the one in the Franschoek Motor Museum?
No, that one is the ex Paul Stewart and Liam Howlett F1, chassis #023; it kind of looks the same, but hasn't got the same lights and only part of the HDF kit whereas TH's one he's just sold has both of thosehurstg01 said:
z4chris99 said:
and who's is the nice orange one next to it.
not mine but its owned by someone who knows a thing or 2 about fast cars.Pork said:
Is that the one in the Franschoek Motor Museum?
No, that one is the ex Paul Stewart and Liam Howlett F1, chassis #023; it kind of looks the same, but hasn't got the same lights and only part of the HDF kit whereas TH's one he's just sold has both of thoseI don't know much about the F1 but did notice that the TH one had more aerodyanic styling than the SA one.
Sofoklis said:
Hmmm! Not quite sure, I have not pondered too much on the matter. Either way it does not sit comfortably with me having people know who owns certain things. Its not ethically correct. Maybe I am a little old school for this? Information and car history is one thing but names is something I am personally against. Some will back me on this but the majority will probably not.
I think Peleton is the same as me - he wouldn't mention an unknown name, but if it became public knowledge then it's ok to mention. Like the Zonda HH for example.z4chris99 said:
and who's is the nice orange one next to it.
That picture is about four years old but at the time #059 which Tom has recently sold shared the garage with GTR #14R. Either with the same owner, or that owner's son from what I have gathered. In early 2011 Tom sold the GTR to some guy who (and I don't want to mention any names... 
) was formerly a McLaren employee and now makes slippery things in his mind for RedBull Racing. >8^)
ER
Peloton25 said:
That picture is about four years old but at the time #059 which Tom has recently sold shared the garage with GTR #14R. Either with the same owner, or that owner's son from what I have gathered. In early 2011 Tom sold the GTR to some guy who (and I don't want to mention any names... ) was formerly a McLaren employee and now makes slippery things in his mind for RedBull Racing.
>8^)
ER
Did Tom sell the orange GTR? I thought that was Dion, Elms Collection? Also, was it repainted after DK got the wrong shade of orange all over it? ) was formerly a McLaren employee and now makes slippery things in his mind for RedBull Racing. >8^)
ER
VMLondon said:
Did Tom sell the orange GTR? I thought that was Dion, Elms Collection? Also, was it repainted after DK got the wrong shade of orange all over it?
2 seperate orange GTR's = Dion sold #16R, TH sold #14RUnsure as to your other question - here are some pictures of it getting that paint http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost... and the owners reasons as to why http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost...
toohuge said:
From what I recall and I stand to be corrected, the 'LM' engine isn't really a completely different engine. I think that it has a raised rev limiter and some slight alterations to the intake system.
Performance wise not a huge difference to be honest, just a nice thing to have.
Chris
A decatted exhaust might help the standard car, like the one autocar tested. Performance wise not a huge difference to be honest, just a nice thing to have.
Chris
markcoznottz said:
toohuge said:
From what I recall and I stand to be corrected, the 'LM' engine isn't really a completely different engine. I think that it has a raised rev limiter and some slight alterations to the intake system.
Performance wise not a huge difference to be honest, just a nice thing to have.
Chris
A decatted exhaust might help the standard car, like the one autocar tested. Performance wise not a huge difference to be honest, just a nice thing to have.
Chris
markcoznottz said:
toohuge said:
From what I recall and I stand to be corrected, the 'LM' engine isn't really a completely different engine. I think that it has a raised rev limiter and some slight alterations to the intake system.
Performance wise not a huge difference to be honest, just a nice thing to have.
Chris
A decatted exhaust might help the standard car, like the one autocar tested. Performance wise not a huge difference to be honest, just a nice thing to have.
Chris
Andy - at what stage do you become tempted to sell your Lark car? £3m? £5m. £10m? Surely at some point it has to be a case of the car becomes too valuable to use? Or perhaps not!!
Do the insurance company keep loading up your premium given he obvious increase in value of the F1? I assume you're on some sort of Chubb Masterpiece type policy, but even so the premium must be affected (you don't buy an F1 to go slow, right.....?!)
Soovy said:
Andy - at what stage do you become tempted to sell your Lark car? £3m? £5m. £10m? Surely at some point it has to be a case of the car becomes too valuable to use? Or perhaps not!!
Do the insurance company keep loading up your premium given he obvious increase in value of the F1? I assume you're on some sort of Chubb Masterpiece type policy, but even so the premium must be affected (you don't buy an F1 to go slow, right.....?!)
I think the value of it has made it more difficult to use. Also the car is now in as new condition. No plans to sell it at the moment, just hope to get bit more use out of it next year as it was away 8mths this year and weather been crap since back.Do the insurance company keep loading up your premium given he obvious increase in value of the F1? I assume you're on some sort of Chubb Masterpiece type policy, but even so the premium must be affected (you don't buy an F1 to go slow, right.....?!)
Re insurance, its goes up with the value of the car.
andy74b said:
Re insurance, its goes up with the value of the car.
Andy, I'm being nosey so feel free to ignore if you don't want to answer. But, without being too precise, can you give a ballpark figure for the F1's annual premium - four figures or five? Again, only in general, how does it compare with insurance for your Zonda or F40?andy74b said:
Soovy said:
Andy - at what stage do you become tempted to sell your Lark car? £3m? £5m. £10m? Surely at some point it has to be a case of the car becomes too valuable to use? Or perhaps not!!
Do the insurance company keep loading up your premium given he obvious increase in value of the F1? I assume you're on some sort of Chubb Masterpiece type policy, but even so the premium must be affected (you don't buy an F1 to go slow, right.....?!)
I think the value of it has made it more difficult to use. Also the car is now in as new condition. No plans to sell it at the moment, just hope to get bit more use out of it next year as it was away 8mths this year and weather been crap since back.Do the insurance company keep loading up your premium given he obvious increase in value of the F1? I assume you're on some sort of Chubb Masterpiece type policy, but even so the premium must be affected (you don't buy an F1 to go slow, right.....?!)
Re insurance, its goes up with the value of the car.
I have a space downstairs if you need someone to look after it.
Obviously without going into details I assume that you have to have some fairly serious secrurity at your place!!!!!!
Edited by Soovy on Thursday 8th November 12:59
BelfastBoy said:
andy74b said:
Re insurance, its goes up with the value of the car.
Andy, I'm being nosey so feel free to ignore if you don't want to answer. But, without being too precise, can you give a ballpark figure for the F1's annual premium - four figures or five? Again, only in general, how does it compare with insurance for your Zonda or F40?Soovy said:
Thanks, interesting.
I have a space downstairs if you need someone to look after it.
Obviously without going into details I assume that you have to have some fairly serious secrurity at your place!!!!!!
He probably has a more security on the box that he keeps his driving gloves in than you do on your imaginary cellar I have a space downstairs if you need someone to look after it.
Obviously without going into details I assume that you have to have some fairly serious secrurity at your place!!!!!!
Edited by Soovy on Thursday 8th November 12:59
These cars are practically theft-proof. Not much you would be able to do with one given that there are essentially two places in the world to get it serviced and really just one to buy the tires from. A number of people keep track of who owns them and so shifting a hot one would be near impossible.
The ever increasing values, high cost of damage repair and the number of cars that have needed repair due to errors of judgement/no safety net are going to be the biggest factors here with insurance.
>8^)
ER
The ever increasing values, high cost of damage repair and the number of cars that have needed repair due to errors of judgement/no safety net are going to be the biggest factors here with insurance.
>8^)
ER
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