Where are all the 360 CS's?
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reedman said:
I looked at buy a CS in Germany ages ago. Earmarked a few cars asked for service history, damage etc. 1 of the cars I looked at had 30,000 euro's worth of damage. I am 99% sure it's now in the UK.
133771
Might help someone.
James
What does 133771 mean? Does it relate to a car?133771
Might help someone.
James
roygarth said:
What does 133771 mean? Does it relate to a car?
This car. It the last 6 digits of the VIN.http://www.challenge-stradale.com/133771.html
Yes, it has been sold and most likely in UK.
"January 6, 2014
133771 is for sale by Autohaus Gohm in Singen, Germany. According to the seller, multiple body panels have been replaced and repainted. The rear diffusers of this Rosso Corsa CS are painted in the body color. Medium red leather seats, black dashboard.
Mileage 25000 km's. €99900."
AdvocatusD said:
"The rear diffusers of this Rosso Corsa CS are painted in the body color. Medium red leather seats, black dashboard.Mileage 25000 km's. €99900."
This looks very much like one of the Amari cars then ... Same milage, Same diffuser, Same interiorhttp://www.amarisupercars.com/detail?vid=89381
Edited by moc on Thursday 27th March 13:06
moc said:
AdvocatusD said:
"The rear diffusers of this Rosso Corsa CS are painted in the body color. Medium red leather seats, black dashboard.Mileage 25000 km's. €99900."
This looks very much like one of the Amari cars then ... Same milage, Same diffuser, Same interiorhttp://www.amarisupercars.com/detail?vid=89381
moc said:
This looks very much like one of the Amari cars then ... Same milage, Same diffuser, Same interior
http://www.amarisupercars.com/detail?vid=89381
Even the same chassis number! Thats a shock.http://www.amarisupercars.com/detail?vid=89381
Edited by moc on Thursday 27th March 13:06
If this car sells that the asking price (assuming the buyer is actually told it had significant damage) then this will mean that non-damaged and "clean" LHD CS prices will get a boost. At least theoretically?
I personally am quite put off at the way they have not disclosed this. They had the chance in the ad which is quite detailed. I would hope they would do the right thing even if not asked a pointed question. A little search shows they have a slightly mixed reputation?
I personally am quite put off at the way they have not disclosed this. They had the chance in the ad which is quite detailed. I would hope they would do the right thing even if not asked a pointed question. A little search shows they have a slightly mixed reputation?
Just to clear that one up a bit, I work at Amari and yes we were made aware when buying it that the car had been into a gravel trap.
It had undertrays replaced and had paint, but no body panels replaced. We bought it as we buy on condition, and the car is in great condition. The paintwork is in the history for any customers to see, so nothing to hide.
Most CS's have been on track so run that risk, and I dare say most have had paint at some point too.
We sold another CS last week, which had also had paint, it was a lovely car.
It had undertrays replaced and had paint, but no body panels replaced. We bought it as we buy on condition, and the car is in great condition. The paintwork is in the history for any customers to see, so nothing to hide.
Most CS's have been on track so run that risk, and I dare say most have had paint at some point too.
We sold another CS last week, which had also had paint, it was a lovely car.
Speed.deman said:
johnnyreggae said:
Fair enough and given that 99.9 % of car ads fail to mention something their position seems not unreasonable
Wow! Really? Not trying to be difficult here, but this is a dealer that has a number of £100,000+ cars for sale. I think the standard I apply here is rather higher than the chap selling a £4,500 Golf down in the classifieds. It's a pretty big omission, which doesn't in itself suggest anyone is a crook or harm a sale but it's certainly not going to help. This should have been volunteered - there is no doubt about that. I would ask why it wasn't (very politely)? What about the other cars they have? What's not been mentioned there?
I've been trying to buy a CS for a while now (but sadly my budget means I've probably got to really luck out) and I can see how detailed, even paranoid the UK market is. I've got nothing against a car that has been repaired to top spec, but I would expect to have been told about it without asking.
Reedman, was it really EUR 30,000 btw of damage? That's a big bill for just underpanels.
Speed.deman said:
Wow! Really? Not trying to be difficult here, but this is a dealer that has a number of £100,000+ cars for sale. I think the standard I apply here is rather higher than the chap selling a £4,500 Golf down in the classifieds. It's a pretty big omission, which doesn't in itself suggest anyone is a crook or harm a sale but it's certainly not going to help. This should have been volunteered - there is no doubt about that. I would ask why it wasn't (very politely)?
What about the other cars they have? What's not been mentioned there?
I've been trying to buy a CS for a while now (but sadly my budget means I've probably got to really luck out) and I can see how detailed, even paranoid the UK market is. I've got nothing against a car that has been repaired to top spec, but I would expect to have been told about it without asking.
Reedman, was it really EUR 30,000 btw of damage? That's a big bill for just underpanels.
Dont worry, I completely understand your side of it.What about the other cars they have? What's not been mentioned there?
I've been trying to buy a CS for a while now (but sadly my budget means I've probably got to really luck out) and I can see how detailed, even paranoid the UK market is. I've got nothing against a car that has been repaired to top spec, but I would expect to have been told about it without asking.
Reedman, was it really EUR 30,000 btw of damage? That's a big bill for just underpanels.
Its very common for these sorts of cars to have had paint, wether it be the front end to get rid of stone chips or other larger jobs. I dont think any dealer lists that cars have had paint, but if asked we will happily disclose the information.
If it had serious damage, then yes its the sort of thing that would be mentioned up front, but we wouldnt have bought it then!
EUR 30,000 does sound like a lot! But its scary how quickly bills can add up on these cars. We were told that it was underpanels and paint only, and upon inspection we have no reason to suspect otherwise. I would be happy to show anyone round the car too.
Speed.deman said:
Wow! Really? Not trying to be difficult here, but this is a dealer that has a number of £100,000+ cars for sale. I think the standard I apply here is rather higher than the chap selling a £4,500 Golf down in the classifieds. It's a pretty big omission, which doesn't in itself suggest anyone is a crook or harm a sale but it's certainly not going to help. This should have been volunteered - there is no doubt about that. I would ask why it wasn't (very politely)?
What about the other cars they have? What's not been mentioned there?
I've been trying to buy a CS for a while now (but sadly my budget means I've probably got to really luck out) and I can see how detailed, even paranoid the UK market is. I've got nothing against a car that has been repaired to top spec, but I would expect to have been told about it without asking.
Reedman, was it really EUR 30,000 btw of damage? That's a big bill for just underpanels.
Yes if It was relevant or needed I keep copies of everything.What about the other cars they have? What's not been mentioned there?
I've been trying to buy a CS for a while now (but sadly my budget means I've probably got to really luck out) and I can see how detailed, even paranoid the UK market is. I've got nothing against a car that has been repaired to top spec, but I would expect to have been told about it without asking.
Reedman, was it really EUR 30,000 btw of damage? That's a big bill for just underpanels.
Might have been 29733.
The dealer was open about the damage. Undertrays, all the glass, respray, new wheels and a list of other bits.
James
Edited by reedman on Thursday 27th March 20:49
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