Investment: 360 Challenge Stradale V 430 Scuderia V 993RS
Discussion
roygarth said:
Any views on which of the 3 will do better investment wise in years to come?
STiG911 said:
roygarth said:
Any views on which of the 3 will do better investment wise in years to come?
roygarth said:
That may be the situation today, but perhaps not in a few years time....I believe there are a similar number of surviving 360CS and 993RS. 993RS are trading at roughly double their original sale price and 3 to 4 times their low price. 360CS are 40% above low point and below original retail (I think?)....will be interesting to see if 430SCUD is lower than 360CS in a years time.
Not entirely sure I would agree with that comparison on a pricing basis although the 2 have similar production numbers. The 993 RS marks the last of that era of 911, air cooled engine and all so in historic terms will always stand as a more important and I would argue more desirable car than the CS which is just the first of what surely will be many lightweight, electronic heavy mid-engine Ferrari limited (or semi limited) edition specials, CS, Scud, 458 Scud etc....Just spent the last weekend driving around Ireland on the Irish Cannonball with my CS. I've had loads of great cars (Porsches, Astons, Ferraris etc.) and none touches the CS (though comparing cars is a bit like saying which thumb do you prefer).
The driving experience is just wonderful. I had no problem leading and following 458s, SLSs and the like but more than that, it's the way the CS does it that is so appealing. Other drivers too, loved the CS. The sound, the looks, the way it dives into sharp bends and is so agile and the performance. I repeatedly had people following me saying "wow, what a car?" No doubt in a drag race the modern cars are faster but on the road none of them were able to leave the CS.
The event is 150 supercars driving all sorts of varied roads and is pretty mad. Some cars didn't finish intact but the CS took the whole thing in its stride and emerged completely unscathed. In fact it felt better after the workout.
I've had my car for a year and am 100% certain it has gone up in value. Whether that stays the case who knows but since I've refused a couple of higher offers I'm pretty certain I'm keeping it. In some ways it's value is immaterial to me because I love owning and driving it, although knowing it isn't depreciating is a very nice feeling!
Buy one for 'investment', sure, but really, just own and drive if and it will reward you by the bucket load. It is a special, special car.
Not a proper driving experience? What are you taking?
The driving experience is just wonderful. I had no problem leading and following 458s, SLSs and the like but more than that, it's the way the CS does it that is so appealing. Other drivers too, loved the CS. The sound, the looks, the way it dives into sharp bends and is so agile and the performance. I repeatedly had people following me saying "wow, what a car?" No doubt in a drag race the modern cars are faster but on the road none of them were able to leave the CS.
The event is 150 supercars driving all sorts of varied roads and is pretty mad. Some cars didn't finish intact but the CS took the whole thing in its stride and emerged completely unscathed. In fact it felt better after the workout.
I've had my car for a year and am 100% certain it has gone up in value. Whether that stays the case who knows but since I've refused a couple of higher offers I'm pretty certain I'm keeping it. In some ways it's value is immaterial to me because I love owning and driving it, although knowing it isn't depreciating is a very nice feeling!
Buy one for 'investment', sure, but really, just own and drive if and it will reward you by the bucket load. It is a special, special car.
Not a proper driving experience? What are you taking?
jackal said:
993rs
They've gone up by 50k in the last 18 months alone
Much better to drive as well ..... proper driving
Thats such a laugh!!!They've gone up by 50k in the last 18 months alone
Much better to drive as well ..... proper driving
993 close to topping out value wise now, CS are already on the rise, there are NO good RHD for sale, Scuds have now settled and will start to climb in about 3 years.
Another very good investment car is the 996 GT3RS, I think they will double in the next five years.
Craigwww said:
Not for the OP, I think you'll find he's relaxing on the deck already lol
Yep, whilst I'm drowning in the water desperately trying to climb aboard the above and any of the following964 Turbo 3.6
964 Turbo S (never came in to dock).
993 Turbo S (as above)
996RS is set to leave port too, and soon I think - Try finding an unmodified-to-hell original car. None around - all are trackday specials modified and mashed.
Back to OP: 993 RS (and esp the RSR) is a real deal racer IMO. 360CS is a very focused 360 that looks nice and makes a big sound but the two are not comparable. So I think the Porsche has better investment potential despite have shot up already.
Edited by Murcielago_Boy on Thursday 29th August 13:32
hazy said:
jackal said:
993rs
They've gone up by 50k in the last 18 months alone
Much better to drive as well ..... proper driving
Thats such a laugh!!!They've gone up by 50k in the last 18 months alone
Much better to drive as well ..... proper driving
993 close to topping out value wise now, CS are already on the rise, there are NO good RHD for sale, Scuds have now settled and will start to climb in about 3 years.
Another very good investment car is the 996 GT3RS, I think they will double in the next five years.
M002 993rs selling for as much as £185,000 Euros. No M003 clubsports have sold recently but expect £180,000-£200,000+. They are going the way of the great 93 GT2 IMO, £400k and counting !
Problem with all these values is it becomes psychologically difficult to use them in anger as intended ... not to mention insurance excesses on or off circuit. Such a shame.
Give me a tatty old 96 Gt3, a 993 C2 with some choice mods, ditto 964 ... rag them till your hearts content. 599 GTB in the garage for the occasional 'look at me' excursion to Chewton Glen and ST. Paul de Vence with the missus.
hazy said:
Thats such a laugh!!!
993 close to topping out value wise now, CS are already on the rise, there are NO good RHD for sale, Scuds have now settled and will start to climb in about 3 years.
Another very good investment car is the 996 GT3RS, I think they will double in the next five years.
Interesting point about "no good rhd for sale". What's the view on rhd vs lhd on the CS?993 close to topping out value wise now, CS are already on the rise, there are NO good RHD for sale, Scuds have now settled and will start to climb in about 3 years.
Another very good investment car is the 996 GT3RS, I think they will double in the next five years.
I ask as there's a lhd CS in the classifieds that to my untrained eye looks tidy. Looks to be priced below recent rhd prices, but given market is thin and asking price vs deal price vary it's hard to tell.
I owned 993rs out of interest (in lhd) and before that a 964rs. I agree 996gt3rs has most % upside today.
jackal said:
Ok Meg ... thread bookmarked
M002 993rs selling for as much as £185,000 Euros. No M003 clubsports have sold recently but expect £180,000-£200,000+. They are going the way of the great 93 GT2 IMO, £400k and counting !
Problem with all these values is it becomes psychologically difficult to use them in anger as intended ... not to mention insurance excesses on or off circuit. Such a shame.
Give me a tatty old 96 Gt3, a 993 C2 with some choice mods, ditto 964 ... rag them till your hearts content. 599 GTB in the garage for the occasional 'look at me' excursion to Chewton Glen and ST. Paul de Vence with the missus.
Prices there must be super mint, barely any miles etc etc. I sold my 993 rs cs (m003 in the porsche parlance) late last year. Admittedly plenty of miles and I raced it and it had seen some new panels, but was in lovely nick. Sold for well south of 100. I could lay my hands on a M002 variant, again well used etc, but mechanically perfect. At half the 185 figure!M002 993rs selling for as much as £185,000 Euros. No M003 clubsports have sold recently but expect £180,000-£200,000+. They are going the way of the great 93 GT2 IMO, £400k and counting !
Problem with all these values is it becomes psychologically difficult to use them in anger as intended ... not to mention insurance excesses on or off circuit. Such a shame.
Give me a tatty old 96 Gt3, a 993 C2 with some choice mods, ditto 964 ... rag them till your hearts content. 599 GTB in the garage for the occasional 'look at me' excursion to Chewton Glen and ST. Paul de Vence with the missus.
jimmyslr said:
jackal said:
Ok Meg ... thread bookmarked
M002 993rs selling for as much as £185,000 Euros. No M003 clubsports have sold recently but expect £180,000-£200,000+. They are going the way of the great 93 GT2 IMO, £400k and counting !
Problem with all these values is it becomes psychologically difficult to use them in anger as intended ... not to mention insurance excesses on or off circuit. Such a shame.
Give me a tatty old 96 Gt3, a 993 C2 with some choice mods, ditto 964 ... rag them till your hearts content. 599 GTB in the garage for the occasional 'look at me' excursion to Chewton Glen and ST. Paul de Vence with the missus.
Prices there must be super mint, barely any miles etc etc. I sold my 993 rs cs (m003 in the porsche parlance) late last year. Admittedly plenty of miles and I raced it and it had seen some new panels, but was in lovely nick. Sold for well south of 100. I could lay my hands on a M002 variant, again well used etc, but mechanically perfect. At half the 185 figure!M002 993rs selling for as much as £185,000 Euros. No M003 clubsports have sold recently but expect £180,000-£200,000+. They are going the way of the great 93 GT2 IMO, £400k and counting !
Problem with all these values is it becomes psychologically difficult to use them in anger as intended ... not to mention insurance excesses on or off circuit. Such a shame.
Give me a tatty old 96 Gt3, a 993 C2 with some choice mods, ditto 964 ... rag them till your hearts content. 599 GTB in the garage for the occasional 'look at me' excursion to Chewton Glen and ST. Paul de Vence with the missus.
http://www.germansportscars.net/GB/cars-for-sale.p...
None of these are especially low miles. The market has changed an awful lot recently IMO. Last year I remember a white M002 at OPC with just 10k miles IIRC and that only went for something like 110k. That car today would be a totally different story.
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