Two Aventadors revving and spitting flames in London

Two Aventadors revving and spitting flames in London

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Chris Type R

8,026 posts

249 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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SydneyBridge said:
In the eyes of the law, the Mazda driver is at fault for pulling out into the path of the correctly proceeding Lambo, which was already established on the road.

yes, he was hammering it along, but speed cannot be used as a defence, as in the Mazda driver will find it very hard to say that he/she did not see the Lambo as it was going too fast. They would not be able to say how fast it was going
There's also a bus which may have been in front of, and obscuring the Lambo when the Mazda driver checked the road before pulling out. Without knowing what happened just prior to the smash, it's very hard to apportion blame.

BJG1

5,966 posts

212 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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eybic said:
I remember years ago I lived on quite a busy road and a neighbour pulled out of his space into the path of a car which it was speeding, the speed was no defence and the neighbour's insurance had to pay for repairs.
From a legal/insurance point of view I'm sure it's the Mazda's fault but I don't think that's the discussion. The Lamborghini driver bears a lot of responsibility for the fact the collision happened. If I were to crash under the same circumstances I'd certainly feel that my actions had led to the crash.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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SydneyBridge said:
In the eyes of the law, the Mazda driver is at fault for pulling out into the path of the correctly proceeding Lambo, which was already established on the road.

yes, he was hammering it along, but speed cannot be used as a defence, as in the Mazda driver will find it very hard to say that he/she did not see the Lambo as it was going too fast. They would not be able to say how fast it was going
Rubbish. Would be over ruled by the fact that the Lambo driver was driving without due care and attention, possibly even a charge of dangerous driving.

Right of way does not give you the right to have a collision. You must be fully in control of your vehicle at all times, and you must avoid a collision. Having right of way does not absolve you of either. The very fact that the Lambo didnt even have its brakes on at the moment of collision shows he was not driving with due care and attention.


Why people defend these show offs is beyond me. You'll be telling me next that you can run over pedestrians that step into the road because 'you had established right of way and was driving at the speed limit'.

Chris Type R

8,026 posts

249 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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TTmonkey said:
Why people defend these show offs is beyond me. You'll be telling me next that you can run over pedestrians that step into the road because 'you had established right of way and was driving at the speed limit'.
Quite.

Murcielago_Boy

1,996 posts

239 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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TTmonkey said:
Rubbish. Would be over ruled by the fact that the Lambo driver was driving without due care and attention, possibly even a charge of dangerous driving.

Right of way does not give you the right to have a collision. You must be fully in control of your vehicle at all times, and you must avoid a collision. Having right of way does not absolve you of either. The very fact that the Lambo didnt even have its brakes on at the moment of collision shows he was not driving with due care and attention.


Why people defend these show offs is beyond me. You'll be telling me next that you can run over pedestrians that step into the road because 'you had established right of way and was driving at the speed limit'.
...because YOU can see from that phone-made video EXACTLY what happened right? It's what you do for a living right? You've been down there and investigated the accident. You know the speed, the circumstances and EVERYTHING else to pass judgement right? YOU.

hmmm...

BJG1

5,966 posts

212 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Murcielago_Boy said:
...because YOU can see from that phone-made video EXACTLY what happened right? It's what you do for a living right? You've been down there and investigated the accident. You know the speed, the circumstances and EVERYTHING else to pass judgement right? YOU.

hmmm...
The video sufficiently shows that the Lambo driver fked up IMO. He's driving too fast for the conditions and he doesn't take correct preventative measures. I don't need to know what speed he was doing, I can tell from the fact he's smashed into the Mazda at significant speed.

Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Chris Type R said:
TTmonkey said:
Why people defend these show offs is beyond me. You'll be telling me next that you can run over pedestrians that step into the road because 'you had established right of way and was driving at the speed limit'.
Quite.
I agree also.

Pioneer

1,309 posts

131 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Butter Face said:
I agree also.
Ditto

Murcielago_Boy

1,996 posts

239 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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BJG1 said:
The video sufficiently shows that the Lambo driver fked up IMO. He's driving too fast for the conditions and he doesn't take correct preventative measures. I don't need to know what speed he was doing, I can tell from the fact he's smashed into the Mazda at significant speed.
Mate - I don't believe the video conclusively shows anything other than the Mazda pulling into the path of that Lambo. The rest is your opinion....?

[Now if someone has used the video to time how long the Lambo is taking to travel the (known) distance between the central white lines (if visible) prior to impact and calculated the speed in mph then I might agree but frankly mate, no-one has. That's a job for the insurance companies/police].




andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Murcielago_Boy said:
BJG1 said:
The video sufficiently shows that the Lambo driver fked up IMO. He's driving too fast for the conditions and he doesn't take correct preventative measures. I don't need to know what speed he was doing, I can tell from the fact he's smashed into the Mazda at significant speed.
Mate - I don't believe the video conclusively shows anything other than the Mazda pulling into the path of that Lambo. The rest is your opinion....?

[Now if someone has used the video to time how long the Lambo is taking to travel the (known) distance between the central white lines (if visible) prior to impact and calculated the speed in mph then I might agree but frankly mate, no-one has. That's a job for the insurance companies/police].
3 car lengths in a second * 5 yards per car length = 15 yards/second * 3600 seconds in an hour / 1760 yards in a mile = 30mph

hth biggrin

BJG1

5,966 posts

212 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Murcielago_Boy said:
Mate - I don't believe the video conclusively shows anything other than the Mazda pulling into the path of that Lambo. The rest is your opinion....?
Yes, it's my opinion. That's why I wrote IMO at the end of the sentence...

Robbo66

3,833 posts

233 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Murcielago_Boy said:
Mate - I don't believe the video conclusively shows anything other than the Mazda pulling into the path of that Lambo. The rest is your opinion....?

[Now if someone has used the video to time how long the Lambo is taking to travel the (known) distance between the central white lines (if visible) prior to impact and calculated the speed in mph then I might agree but frankly mate, no-one has. That's a job for the insurance companies/police].
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lamboman100

1,445 posts

121 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Supercar Youtuber making some reasonable cash, it seems:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599773/Pe...

jdw1234

6,021 posts

215 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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lamboman100 said:
Supercar Youtuber making some reasonable cash, it seems:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599773/Pe...
6 year old Audi on finance whilst living with mum and dad at 23...living the dream!

BJG1

5,966 posts

212 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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jdw1234 said:
6 year old Audi on finance whilst living with mum and dad at 23...living the dream!
Earning £18k a year and driving an R8 FFS. So vain.

jdw1234

6,021 posts

215 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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BJG1 said:
jdw1234 said:
6 year old Audi on finance whilst living with mum and dad at 23...living the dream!
Earning £18k a year and driving an R8 FFS. So vain.
I am sure the taxman knows about his YouTube income.


AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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lamboman100 said:
Supercar Youtuber making some reasonable cash, it seems:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599773/Pe...
Budget Shmee.

Juber

569 posts

138 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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jdw1234 said:
I am sure the taxman knows about his YouTube income.
All offset on expenses, fuel, camera and batteries lol

AtlantisWeb

358 posts

170 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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AyBee said:
lamboman100 said:
Supercar Youtuber making some reasonable cash, it seems:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599773/Pe...
Budget Shmee.
I seem to remember Shmee claiming that he doesn't earn much money from YouTube.

AtlantisWeb

358 posts

170 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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AyBee said:
lamboman100 said:
Supercar Youtuber making some reasonable cash, it seems:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599773/Pe...
Budget Shmee.
I seem to remember Shmee claiming that he doesn't earn much money from YouTube.
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