F430 Market Watch

[WF36]

RamboLambo said:

Yeah Good point Porsche reinstated the manual so if Ferrari did F430 manual prices would be severely effected

Naturally aspirated manual? Some hope.

[markst]

WF36 said:

RamboLambo said:

Yeah Good point Porsche reinstated the manual so if Ferrari did F430 manual prices would be severely effected

Naturally aspirated manual? Some hope.

Any manual will do as I would be more than happy to order a new Ferrari if it had a stick .

My daily 718 has a stick and it’s great fun , call me old fashioned but I like changing gear and not just flipping a lever 👀

[red_slr]

Ferrari currently too close to F1 to bring back the manual IMHO. IIRC their current focus is on electricity boost etc.
Their cars are getting pretty big these days to fit all that tech in there, would be nice if they did a Boxster size car though with manual trans and a small capacity NA V8..

[Vivakenaldo]

It seems I’m getting onto this thread a whisker too late as a would be buyer. Having read and looked forward to monthly updates I would like to thank AV and sincerely hope that he continues to scrape the information.

One interesting point that would be useful if anyone is willing to submit is how much discount as a percentage or cashuou were able to negotiate off a purchase ?

The purchase date and overall price and seller type would obviously have a significant bearing on this .

However this would give a clearer insight to the actual sold prices v advertised prices

[bordseye]

red_slr said:

Ferrari currently too close to F1 to bring back the manual IMHO. IIRC their current focus is on electricity boost etc.
Their cars are getting pretty big these days to fit all that tech in there, would be nice if they did a Boxster size car though with manual trans and a small capacity NA V8..

got to agree with that. OK it hasnt got the badge but the new TVR looks like it might fit the above/

[ferrisbueller]

voicey said:

I have decided that this will be my last update on this thread.

Thanks for all your efforts.

For reference, Voicey's website:

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[red_slr]

bordseye said:

red_slr said:

Ferrari currently too close to F1 to bring back the manual IMHO. IIRC their current focus is on electricity boost etc.
Their cars are getting pretty big these days to fit all that tech in there, would be nice if they did a Boxster size car though with manual trans and a small capacity NA V8..

got to agree with that. OK it hasnt got the badge but the new TVR looks like it might fit the above/

There is talk that the 588 is probably going to come with V6 or V8 options with the 6 pot being in SWB chassis... but it will still be too big (IMHO) and probably just a ruse to sell cars with a "SWB" name...

[Durzel]

Thanks AV for your efforts

[mario64]

Thanks for posting this for so many years, and I'm sorry that you have decided to stop.

[roygarth]

Thanks AV for compiling this over the years. Very informative and much appreciated.

[WEHGuy]

Thanks AV, I was reading this thread with interest long before I realised my dream and bought my first Ferrari. Then in the summer of 15 I finally took the plunge and bought the almost identical car I had been visualising for 5+ years. I have been eyeing up a F12 now for a while so, I think I will take the plunge in spring to trade/sell my F430 for a F12. Feel free to PM me, if you think you can help with this transaction.

[PantsFire]

Regarding Manuals:



DId he win his job in a packet of breakfast cereal? Because anyone with an ounce of sense could have told them you put manuals in fun drivers cars and not the sttiest Ferrari in decades, it would have saved them a few quid.

Edited by PantsFire on Tuesday 12th December 13:18

[RamboLambo]

PantsFire said:

Regarding Manuals:



DId he win his that in a packet of breakfast cereal? Because anyone with an ounce of sense could have told them you put manuals in fun drivers cars and not the sttiest Ferrari in decades, it would have saved them a few quid.

Are you calling the F430 the sttiest Ferrari in decades ?

[ZeroH]

Thanks for the years of updates AV and all your help. Congrats on the success of your business also and see you soon.

[red_duke]

RamboLambo said:

Are you calling the F430 the sttiest Ferrari in decades ?

Eh? The article/quote clearly says California.

[PantsFire]

I was definitely not calling the 430 stty, I was referring to the California; seriously, his reasoning is idiocy layered on stupidity.

[Taaaaang]

PantsFire said:

I was definitely not calling the 430 stty, I was referring to the California; seriously, his reasoning is idiocy layered on stupidity.

If Ferrari made money selling manual sports cars, they'd make them.

It's easy to take a UK/Euro centric view on cars. Nobody in China/Asia/ME wants manual gearboxes. I don't know for sure but I'd hazard a guess that the US is similar.

[MDL111]

Given how integrated the systems in these new Ferrari are, I'd be surprised if they ever introduced a manual again - just doesn't fit with the advanced technology aspect of it all and I suspect most of their buyers would not want/buy one - unless it is a limited edition that they can sell for overs

[PantsFire]

My point was:

1: From this article it appears Ferrari has no intention of making a manual again because the last manual they made was a flop.

2: In my opinion the reason it was a flop was because it was the wrong car to put a manual gearbox in. You put manual's in cars people want to drive like two seat nimble Ferrari's or Alfa 4C's and not stboats like the California.

3: Fedeli's reasoning for not putting a manual in a 4C was because the aforementioned stboat was a failure is illogical to the point of embarrassing.

Edited by PantsFire on Tuesday 12th December 19:51

[Taaaaang]

PantsFire said:

My point was:
2: In my opinion the reason it was a flop was because it was the wrong car to put a manual gearbox in. You put manual's in cars people want to drive like two seat nimble Ferrari's or Alfa 4C's and not stboats like the California.

Edited by PantsFire on Tuesday 12th December 19:51

The thing you aren't getting is that there is no right car anymore.

Nobody wants them.