Maserati Granturismo V8 S 2dr MC Shift
Discussion
av185 said:
Anjum said:
Go for a MCLine GTS - and you'll love it. Both you and your wife will have a great time! It can do the GT thing like very few other cars. There's always a sense of occasion when you apprach it. It makes 911's (996/997) almost boring.
Go test drive one.
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You say theres always a sense of occasion when you apprach?? it? Does this disappear when you actually sit in and drive it? No GT car could compete with a 2+2 sports car having the breadth of ability shown by the 911. Dont just take my word for it. Didn't win best sports car accolade in last 50 years for nothing! (-;Go test drive one.
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av185 said:
sjn2004 said:
yawn.
Valid point? Yawn....As an ex 996 and 997S owner, I have to say that my feelings go toward the Maserati owners in this thread. The Gran Turismo does have a greater sense of occasion, it is more "special".
The 911 is a terrific, iconic car, There is nothing else like it. It is crushingly competent. But the Maserati does have special qualities and I can completely understand why people would choose one.
Stop being such a fanboy bore and open your eyes.
av185 said:
Stuff that mostly had no relevance other than massaging his ego
You came on quoting your mate had a GTS ,"nothing but trouble blah blah, omitting the fact that one of your own paragon of reliablity Porsches had blown up.The then have a pop at someone and suggest he's no driver, and gets a Vauxhall Saloon.....maybe you haven't heard of a VXR8.
I said the hard core 911's are fantastic, I certainly don't "covet" one, as you succintly put it. I've had the M400 six years, wouldn't swap it for any car of it's ilk at any price, but I appreciate the badge probably isn't for you.
I mentioned the positive attention the Maserati gets because it's relevant for some people as to how comfortable they feel in their car,especially compared to the negativity that unfortunately can sometimes come as part of the package with your favourite brand.Try not to be a cock and suggest that's why I bought mine, I do more miles and spend more hours in my Rover 75. I do however, know plenty of people who bought a Porsche because it's er...a Porsche innit.
Congratulations on your ( unlike mine apparently)" broad range of subjects", I'm sure your post count will shoot up just fine, I tend to just stick to what I know.
One other thing that may deflate that ego,I didn't go through all your posts, one click found me a topic about Porsche engine problems, and I simply thought .."I wonder",and sure enough you were spilling the beens about those reliable Porsches.
Plenty of true driving roads in Essex,that's why I have a M400,It didn't win Autocar magazines "Drivers COTY" for er "nothing" in your words.
Edited by sjc on Wednesday 25th September 00:02
Just to add my 2p's worth. Having had lots of cars over the years including 10 911's including GT2, 993's,996's,997's,2.7rs etc ( still have my 993 cab) granturismo 4.2, 355, and countless others.
The one car I miss is the granturismo, if I could I would add a 4.7mc shift to my little fleet.
They are a completely different beast to a 997 apart from price I cant see how or why you would compare them really
997: sports car with 4 seat's
GT : Gt car with 4 seats that's quite sporty
Phib
The one car I miss is the granturismo, if I could I would add a 4.7mc shift to my little fleet.
They are a completely different beast to a 997 apart from price I cant see how or why you would compare them really
997: sports car with 4 seat's
GT : Gt car with 4 seats that's quite sporty
Phib
LONG TIME SINCE I POSTED AND WAS GOING TO SET UP A SEPARATE THREAD BUT ITS ALREADY HERE.. SO HERE GOES..
I HAVE OWNED THE 4.7 MCS FOR 1.5 YEARS AND BEFORE THAT THE FERRARI 550, THE MASERATI QUATTROPORTE, THE BMW M6 THE RS6 V10, A 911 AN FOUR CERBS 4.5s and 4.2
when i first bought my 4.7 i slated it.. my initial reaction was that the chassis was to wobbly and the suspension weak for town driving..
1.5 years on i have say it is the most capable all round sports car (and yes it is a sports car) that i have ever owned..
why is it a sports car??? the ferrari 4.7 engine from 0-60 is unimpressive but after leman , germany and italy IN THE COMPANY OF many other super cars the 4.7 engine had managed to hold its own at the 70mph and above bracket, infact its pretty impressive at that point!!
the engine noise just grows and grows on you, its addictive and apart from my very special 4.5 cerb unless you go into the 200k mark nothing sounds quite like it!!!
the balance for a car which is essentially nearly 2ton is incredible..the reliability has been 100 percent and i mean one hundred percent.. NOTHING has ever gone wrong with the car..
the world seems to be changing..hate seems to be directed at ferrari and porsche owners and for the time being general public perception of the maserati brand is still favaourable ..which means your not constantly worried about the car being keyed!! and yes i had a ferrai keyed to the cost of 16K in damage entire respray carried out by lamborgini london...
SO WHAT ABOUT THE WOBBLY CHASSIS AND THE WEAK SUSPENSION..(OWNERS DONT TALK ABOUT THIS!!)
STILL THERE!! BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER ..YOU TURN THE ENGINE ON AND YOU JUST SMILE(MY NEIGHBOURS DONT) THE EXHAUST IS SWITCHABLE BUT WHEN YOU FIRE UP FROM COLD IT AUTOMATICALLY OPENS ALL VALVES SO A VERY LOUD START..
THE MCS GEAR BOX IS LOVELY EFFECTIVE MASCULINE AND IS ESSENTIALLY FROM THE 599 .. THE HIFI IS GREAT.. THE HD 30GIG IS GREAT..THE LEATHER IS GREAT..THE INTERIOR IS GREAT..
AND THE CAR WANTS DISTANCE..IT BEGS TO BE DRIVEN TO SCOTLAND OR ITALY..IT SAYS GIVE ME A MOTORWAY AND I WILL EAT UP THE MILES IN COMFORT..GIVE ME AN AUTOBAHN AND I WILL DO 160 WITH TOTAL STABILITY. GIVE ME THE ALPS AND YOU WILL SMILE BECAUSE YOU CAN TRUST THE WAY I HANDLE..
YES THE CHASSIS COULD BE BETTER YES THE SUSPENSION BETTER BUT WHEN YOU PURSUE PERFECTION YOU WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED
THE MCS IS ALMOST PERFECT YOU JUST NEED TO LIVE WITH IT TO DISCOVER THIS!!
AM NOT WASTING TIME CORRECTING TYPOS!!
I HAVE OWNED THE 4.7 MCS FOR 1.5 YEARS AND BEFORE THAT THE FERRARI 550, THE MASERATI QUATTROPORTE, THE BMW M6 THE RS6 V10, A 911 AN FOUR CERBS 4.5s and 4.2
when i first bought my 4.7 i slated it.. my initial reaction was that the chassis was to wobbly and the suspension weak for town driving..
1.5 years on i have say it is the most capable all round sports car (and yes it is a sports car) that i have ever owned..
why is it a sports car??? the ferrari 4.7 engine from 0-60 is unimpressive but after leman , germany and italy IN THE COMPANY OF many other super cars the 4.7 engine had managed to hold its own at the 70mph and above bracket, infact its pretty impressive at that point!!
the engine noise just grows and grows on you, its addictive and apart from my very special 4.5 cerb unless you go into the 200k mark nothing sounds quite like it!!!
the balance for a car which is essentially nearly 2ton is incredible..the reliability has been 100 percent and i mean one hundred percent.. NOTHING has ever gone wrong with the car..
the world seems to be changing..hate seems to be directed at ferrari and porsche owners and for the time being general public perception of the maserati brand is still favaourable ..which means your not constantly worried about the car being keyed!! and yes i had a ferrai keyed to the cost of 16K in damage entire respray carried out by lamborgini london...
SO WHAT ABOUT THE WOBBLY CHASSIS AND THE WEAK SUSPENSION..(OWNERS DONT TALK ABOUT THIS!!)
STILL THERE!! BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER ..YOU TURN THE ENGINE ON AND YOU JUST SMILE(MY NEIGHBOURS DONT) THE EXHAUST IS SWITCHABLE BUT WHEN YOU FIRE UP FROM COLD IT AUTOMATICALLY OPENS ALL VALVES SO A VERY LOUD START..
THE MCS GEAR BOX IS LOVELY EFFECTIVE MASCULINE AND IS ESSENTIALLY FROM THE 599 .. THE HIFI IS GREAT.. THE HD 30GIG IS GREAT..THE LEATHER IS GREAT..THE INTERIOR IS GREAT..
AND THE CAR WANTS DISTANCE..IT BEGS TO BE DRIVEN TO SCOTLAND OR ITALY..IT SAYS GIVE ME A MOTORWAY AND I WILL EAT UP THE MILES IN COMFORT..GIVE ME AN AUTOBAHN AND I WILL DO 160 WITH TOTAL STABILITY. GIVE ME THE ALPS AND YOU WILL SMILE BECAUSE YOU CAN TRUST THE WAY I HANDLE..
YES THE CHASSIS COULD BE BETTER YES THE SUSPENSION BETTER BUT WHEN YOU PURSUE PERFECTION YOU WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED
THE MCS IS ALMOST PERFECT YOU JUST NEED TO LIVE WITH IT TO DISCOVER THIS!!
AM NOT WASTING TIME CORRECTING TYPOS!!
LONG TIME SINCE I POSTED AND WAS GOING TO SET UP A SEPARATE THREAD BUT ITS ALREADY HERE.. SO HERE GOES..
I HAVE OWNED THE 4.7 MCS FOR 1.5 YEARS AND BEFORE THAT THE FERRARI 550, THE MASERATI QUATTROPORTE, THE BMW M6 THE RS6 V10, A 911 AN FOUR CERBS 4.5s and 4.2
when i first bought my 4.7 i slated it.. my initial reaction was that the chassis was to wobbly and the suspension weak for town driving..
1.5 years on i have say it is the most capable all round sports car (and yes it is a sports car) that i have ever owned..
why is it a sports car??? the ferrari 4.7 engine from 0-60 is unimpressive but after leman , germany and italy IN THE COMPANY OF many other super cars the 4.7 engine had managed to hold its own at the 70mph and above bracket, infact its pretty impressive at that point!!
the engine noise just grows and grows on you, its addictive and apart from my very special 4.5 cerb unless you go into the 200k mark nothing sounds quite like it!!!
the balance for a car which is essentially nearly 2ton is incredible..the reliability has been 100 percent and i mean one hundred percent.. NOTHING has ever gone wrong with the car..
the world seems to be changing..hate seems to be directed at ferrari and porsche owners and for the time being general public perception of the maserati brand is still favaourable ..which means your not constantly worried about the car being keyed!! and yes i had a ferrai keyed to the cost of 16K in damage entire respray carried out by lamborgini london...
SO WHAT ABOUT THE WOBBLY CHASSIS AND THE WEAK SUSPENSION..(OWNERS DONT TALK ABOUT THIS!!)
STILL THERE!! BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER ..YOU TURN THE ENGINE ON AND YOU JUST SMILE(MY NEIGHBOURS DONT) THE EXHAUST IS SWITCHABLE BUT WHEN YOU FIRE UP FROM COLD IT AUTOMATICALLY OPENS ALL VALVES SO A VERY LOUD START..
THE MCS GEAR BOX IS LOVELY EFFECTIVE MASCULINE AND IS ESSENTIALLY FROM THE 599 .. THE HIFI IS GREAT.. THE HD 30GIG IS GREAT..THE LEATHER IS GREAT..THE INTERIOR IS GREAT..
AND THE CAR WANTS DISTANCE..IT BEGS TO BE DRIVEN TO SCOTLAND OR ITALY..IT SAYS GIVE ME A MOTORWAY AND I WILL EAT UP THE MILES IN COMFORT..GIVE ME AN AUTOBAHN AND I WILL DO 160 WITH TOTAL STABILITY. GIVE ME THE ALPS AND YOU WILL SMILE BECAUSE YOU CAN TRUST THE WAY I HANDLE..
YES THE CHASSIS COULD BE BETTER YES THE SUSPENSION BETTER BUT WHEN YOU PURSUE PERFECTION YOU WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED
THE MCS IS ALMOST PERFECT YOU JUST NEED TO LIVE WITH IT TO DISCOVER THIS!!
AM NOT WASTING TIME CORRECTING TYPOS!!
I HAVE OWNED THE 4.7 MCS FOR 1.5 YEARS AND BEFORE THAT THE FERRARI 550, THE MASERATI QUATTROPORTE, THE BMW M6 THE RS6 V10, A 911 AN FOUR CERBS 4.5s and 4.2
when i first bought my 4.7 i slated it.. my initial reaction was that the chassis was to wobbly and the suspension weak for town driving..
1.5 years on i have say it is the most capable all round sports car (and yes it is a sports car) that i have ever owned..
why is it a sports car??? the ferrari 4.7 engine from 0-60 is unimpressive but after leman , germany and italy IN THE COMPANY OF many other super cars the 4.7 engine had managed to hold its own at the 70mph and above bracket, infact its pretty impressive at that point!!
the engine noise just grows and grows on you, its addictive and apart from my very special 4.5 cerb unless you go into the 200k mark nothing sounds quite like it!!!
the balance for a car which is essentially nearly 2ton is incredible..the reliability has been 100 percent and i mean one hundred percent.. NOTHING has ever gone wrong with the car..
the world seems to be changing..hate seems to be directed at ferrari and porsche owners and for the time being general public perception of the maserati brand is still favaourable ..which means your not constantly worried about the car being keyed!! and yes i had a ferrai keyed to the cost of 16K in damage entire respray carried out by lamborgini london...
SO WHAT ABOUT THE WOBBLY CHASSIS AND THE WEAK SUSPENSION..(OWNERS DONT TALK ABOUT THIS!!)
STILL THERE!! BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER ..YOU TURN THE ENGINE ON AND YOU JUST SMILE(MY NEIGHBOURS DONT) THE EXHAUST IS SWITCHABLE BUT WHEN YOU FIRE UP FROM COLD IT AUTOMATICALLY OPENS ALL VALVES SO A VERY LOUD START..
THE MCS GEAR BOX IS LOVELY EFFECTIVE MASCULINE AND IS ESSENTIALLY FROM THE 599 .. THE HIFI IS GREAT.. THE HD 30GIG IS GREAT..THE LEATHER IS GREAT..THE INTERIOR IS GREAT..
AND THE CAR WANTS DISTANCE..IT BEGS TO BE DRIVEN TO SCOTLAND OR ITALY..IT SAYS GIVE ME A MOTORWAY AND I WILL EAT UP THE MILES IN COMFORT..GIVE ME AN AUTOBAHN AND I WILL DO 160 WITH TOTAL STABILITY. GIVE ME THE ALPS AND YOU WILL SMILE BECAUSE YOU CAN TRUST THE WAY I HANDLE..
YES THE CHASSIS COULD BE BETTER YES THE SUSPENSION BETTER BUT WHEN YOU PURSUE PERFECTION YOU WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED
THE MCS IS ALMOST PERFECT YOU JUST NEED TO LIVE WITH IT TO DISCOVER THIS!!
AM NOT WASTING TIME CORRECTING TYPOS!!
toppstuff said:
av185 said:
sjn2004 said:
yawn.
Valid point? Yawn....As an ex 996 and 997S owner, I have to say that my feelings go toward the Maserati owners in this thread. The Gran Turismo does have a greater sense of occasion, it is more "special".
The 911 is a terrific, iconic car, There is nothing else like it. It is crushingly competent. But the Maserati does have special qualities and I can completely understand why people would choose one.
Stop being such a fanboy bore and open your eyes.
"The MC autoshift is a fine GT. But the XKR and BMW 6 series both do the job for less, with possibly a superior sense of comfort, interior ambience and refinement. For buyers of the mc shift, the decision to buy is more fraught as the car is outdone in almost every way shape and form by the new Porsche 911"
I stress these are their words not mine.
Would you suggest that Autocar are also "fan boy bores"?
SJC
I am still awaiting feedback from Colossus about which particular 911 he claims to be able to keep up with. Also he claimed he knew what percentage of 911 have engine problems.
If you read my post correctly you would see the 996 engine did not 'blow up'. You have clearly exaggerated this, I wonder why? I could have dramatised the electrical issues with the GTS resulted in a fireball but that would be untrue.
If I had bought Porsches just for the name, as some Maserati owners undoubtedly have, I would have clearly bought a Boxster and had enough change for another interesting vehicle in my fleet. Dont forget that I currently also use a Ford Fiesta, so am hardly a badge snob.
Can t say I know any "true driving roads in Essex". Fortunately, in the North, we drivers are famously blessed with proper driving roads largely free from congestion. Which is why, and where, the majority of motoring journalists testing proper cars will head if given the chance.
Seeing as you have referred to Autocar and clearly hold the magazine in high esteem, I have provided concluding details of a recent test of the Maserati on my previous post. Only to give a more balanced perspective to the topic, you understand.
Finally, I thought perhaps a more balanced topic for discussion on an official PH forum would be 'Porsche 911 v Maserati GTS.' It would be very interesting what other people think.
For now, I rest my case.
I am still awaiting feedback from Colossus about which particular 911 he claims to be able to keep up with. Also he claimed he knew what percentage of 911 have engine problems.
If you read my post correctly you would see the 996 engine did not 'blow up'. You have clearly exaggerated this, I wonder why? I could have dramatised the electrical issues with the GTS resulted in a fireball but that would be untrue.
If I had bought Porsches just for the name, as some Maserati owners undoubtedly have, I would have clearly bought a Boxster and had enough change for another interesting vehicle in my fleet. Dont forget that I currently also use a Ford Fiesta, so am hardly a badge snob.
Can t say I know any "true driving roads in Essex". Fortunately, in the North, we drivers are famously blessed with proper driving roads largely free from congestion. Which is why, and where, the majority of motoring journalists testing proper cars will head if given the chance.
Seeing as you have referred to Autocar and clearly hold the magazine in high esteem, I have provided concluding details of a recent test of the Maserati on my previous post. Only to give a more balanced perspective to the topic, you understand.
Finally, I thought perhaps a more balanced topic for discussion on an official PH forum would be 'Porsche 911 v Maserati GTS.' It would be very interesting what other people think.
For now, I rest my case.
av185 said:
SJC
I am still awaiting feedback from Colossus about which particular 911 he claims to be able to keep up with. Also he claimed he knew what percentage of 911 have engine problems.
If you read my post correctly you would see the 996 engine did not 'blow up'. You have clearly exaggerated this, I wonder why? I could have dramatised the electrical issues with the GTS resulted in a fireball but that would be untrue.
If I had bought Porsches just for the name, as some Maserati owners undoubtedly have, I would have clearly bought a Boxster and had enough change for another interesting vehicle in my fleet. Dont forget that I currently also use a Ford Fiesta, so am hardly a badge snob.
Can t say I know any "true driving roads in Essex". Fortunately, in the North, we drivers are famously blessed with proper driving roads largely free from congestion. Which is why, and where, the majority of motoring journalists testing proper cars will head if given the chance.
Seeing as you have referred to Autocar and clearly hold the magazine in high esteem, I have provided concluding details of a recent test of the Maserati on my previous post. Only to give a more balanced perspective to the topic, you understand.
Finally, I thought perhaps a more balanced topic for discussion on an official PH forum would be 'Porsche 911 v Maserati GTS.' It would be very interesting what other people think.
For now, I rest my case.
Have you compared residuals , probably a better gauge than the words of one journo.I am still awaiting feedback from Colossus about which particular 911 he claims to be able to keep up with. Also he claimed he knew what percentage of 911 have engine problems.
If you read my post correctly you would see the 996 engine did not 'blow up'. You have clearly exaggerated this, I wonder why? I could have dramatised the electrical issues with the GTS resulted in a fireball but that would be untrue.
If I had bought Porsches just for the name, as some Maserati owners undoubtedly have, I would have clearly bought a Boxster and had enough change for another interesting vehicle in my fleet. Dont forget that I currently also use a Ford Fiesta, so am hardly a badge snob.
Can t say I know any "true driving roads in Essex". Fortunately, in the North, we drivers are famously blessed with proper driving roads largely free from congestion. Which is why, and where, the majority of motoring journalists testing proper cars will head if given the chance.
Seeing as you have referred to Autocar and clearly hold the magazine in high esteem, I have provided concluding details of a recent test of the Maserati on my previous post. Only to give a more balanced perspective to the topic, you understand.
Finally, I thought perhaps a more balanced topic for discussion on an official PH forum would be 'Porsche 911 v Maserati GTS.' It would be very interesting what other people think.
For now, I rest my case.
FYI R8 and Granturismo have the best residuals.
Cayenne down to £5500 , 996 down to £8500.
Edited by sjn2004 on Wednesday 25th September 22:02
av185 said:
SJC
Still more condescending stuff.
For now, I rest my case.
Please do.Still more condescending stuff.
For now, I rest my case.
To the OP, http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2222...
And this was Harry's verdict of OWNING ONE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4K5cgzjY6o
Sadly some people really can't see the wood from the trees and aren't particularly good at reading either! AV185 you either need to go to Specsavers or back to school because at no point did I say I knew the percentage of engine failures in the 996 or 997, what I did say was "I would wager that as a percentage of total cars produced, Porsche have a far higher percentage of cars with significant engine problems than Maserati",I still stand by this given the fact that the trade will generally now not touch 996s and 997.1s without a full engine inspection, just go and ask if you do not believe me.
As for the 911 that I have experience of, its a 996 Targa which is designed as a practical useable everyday car. It left me completely underwhelmed, both in terms of handling, performance and style, the cabin for instance is a mess. The GTS outshines it in almost every way, other than it is not quite as agile given its size and weight, although it actually has a very well balanced chassis, something that cannot be said of the 911. I am sure the more focused variants of the 911 are significantly sharper than the 996 Targa, but it is still a 911 and simply doesn't compare. I'm bored with this now, going to get in the car and enjoy the sun.
As for the 911 that I have experience of, its a 996 Targa which is designed as a practical useable everyday car. It left me completely underwhelmed, both in terms of handling, performance and style, the cabin for instance is a mess. The GTS outshines it in almost every way, other than it is not quite as agile given its size and weight, although it actually has a very well balanced chassis, something that cannot be said of the 911. I am sure the more focused variants of the 911 are significantly sharper than the 996 Targa, but it is still a 911 and simply doesn't compare. I'm bored with this now, going to get in the car and enjoy the sun.
This is the first time I have posted in 4 years as I could not get logged on via my old user name (it was linked to my old company and we changed email addresses).
I am always on Pistonheads on this particular forum and I have not really been compelled to post up,,,, until now.
I have no idea who or what av185 is but they are clearly on a wind-up and therfore have way too much time on their hands. I commend them for having that much spare time as I wish I did.
I can only advise everyone to not rise to their bait, they will get bored and go away.
I have both cars plus diverse others. All I say is, so what?
Go and have fun with your family, if you can't do that, go and drive rather than constantly post up drivel.
Here endeth.....
I am always on Pistonheads on this particular forum and I have not really been compelled to post up,,,, until now.
I have no idea who or what av185 is but they are clearly on a wind-up and therfore have way too much time on their hands. I commend them for having that much spare time as I wish I did.
I can only advise everyone to not rise to their bait, they will get bored and go away.
I have both cars plus diverse others. All I say is, so what?
Go and have fun with your family, if you can't do that, go and drive rather than constantly post up drivel.
Here endeth.....
3LeftOverCrest said:
This is the first time I have posted in 4 years as I could not get logged on via my old user name (it was linked to my old company and we changed email addresses).
I am always on Pistonheads on this particular forum and I have not really been compelled to post up,,,, until now.
I have no idea who or what av185 is but they are clearly on a wind-up and therfore have way too much time on their hands. I commend them for having that much spare time as I wish I did.
I can only advise everyone to not rise to their bait, they will get bored and go away.
I have both cars plus diverse others. All I say is, so what?
Go and have fun with your family, if you can't do that, go and drive rather than constantly post up drivel.
Here endeth.....
I'd like to congratulate you on your first post!I am always on Pistonheads on this particular forum and I have not really been compelled to post up,,,, until now.
I have no idea who or what av185 is but they are clearly on a wind-up and therfore have way too much time on their hands. I commend them for having that much spare time as I wish I did.
I can only advise everyone to not rise to their bait, they will get bored and go away.
I have both cars plus diverse others. All I say is, so what?
Go and have fun with your family, if you can't do that, go and drive rather than constantly post up drivel.
Here endeth.....
3LeftOverCrest said:
Lots of good stuff.....
Couldn't agree more.... gotta be a troll...Back on topic, Ive owned both a 997 C2S and a Maser GTS MC Shift....
I liked the 911, but I loved the GTS, my thoughts based on my OWNERSHIP and my opinion
911 Good points
The 911 is like no other in terms of its road feedback and all round ability, very capable sports car, fairly reliable for a high end sportscar and fairly practical as a daily driver
911 bad points
Just too damn common, where I live I see them everyday, on every journey, just doesn't make you feel special, without a sports exhaust it sounds terrible, with it, sounds just OK, interior a bit bland, impractical, only OK in the back if your kids are between 4-8 and although iconic, certainly not a looker. Gets a lot of negative attention, not sure what it is, but people just don't like people who drive 911s
Maser Good points
Best looking car on the road, best sounding car on the road, always put a smile on my face, a very capable GT car, great interior, 4 proper seats and a big boot, very rare so don't see many others, very reliable, gets a lot of very positive attention
Maser bad points
MC Shift gearbox in heavy slow traffic, is annoying, seats not that supportive (been fixed in the new Sport) its a large GT car so can feel it at times.
I sold my GTS a few months back and can honestly say I miss it like no other car, when I sold the 911 and bought the GTS, as much as I liked the 911, I didn't miss the 911 at all.
You both need to drive them both, on the same day, that's the only way to understand what is for you both. The above are my thoughts on ownership of both, others I'm sure will have a different take, one thing is for sure, you wont be disappointed with either, but choose wisely and do your research, as both are very exterior/interior colour sensitive in terms of resale.
V8Smith said:
Back on topic, Ive owned both a 997 C2S and a Maser GTS MC Shift....
I liked the 911, but I loved the GTS, my thoughts based on my OWNERSHIP and my opinion
911 Good points
The 911 is like no other in terms of its road feedback and all round ability, very capable sports car, fairly reliable for a high end sportscar and fairly practical as a daily driver
911 bad points
Just too damn common, where I live I see them everyday, on every journey, just doesn't make you feel special, without a sports exhaust it sounds terrible, with it, sounds just OK, interior a bit bland, impractical, only OK in the back if your kids are between 4-8 and although iconic, certainly not a looker. Gets a lot of negative attention, not sure what it is, but people just don't like people who drive 911s
Maser Good points
Best looking car on the road, best sounding car on the road, always put a smile on my face, a very capable GT car, great interior, 4 proper seats and a big boot, very rare so don't see many others, very reliable, gets a lot of very positive attention
Maser bad points
MC Shift gearbox in heavy slow traffic, is annoying, seats not that supportive (been fixed in the new Sport) its a large GT car so can feel it at times.
I sold my GTS a few months back and can honestly say I miss it like no other car, when I sold the 911 and bought the GTS, as much as I liked the 911, I didn't miss the 911 at all.
You both need to drive them both, on the same day, that's the only way to understand what is for you both. The above are my thoughts on ownership of both, others I'm sure will have a different take, one thing is for sure, you wont be disappointed with either, but choose wisely and do your research, as both are very exterior/interior colour sensitive in terms of resale.
Great summary of the ownership experience of these two cars. Truth is, both cars are stereotypical of their country of origin, so it's Germany vs Italy, your choice.I liked the 911, but I loved the GTS, my thoughts based on my OWNERSHIP and my opinion
911 Good points
The 911 is like no other in terms of its road feedback and all round ability, very capable sports car, fairly reliable for a high end sportscar and fairly practical as a daily driver
911 bad points
Just too damn common, where I live I see them everyday, on every journey, just doesn't make you feel special, without a sports exhaust it sounds terrible, with it, sounds just OK, interior a bit bland, impractical, only OK in the back if your kids are between 4-8 and although iconic, certainly not a looker. Gets a lot of negative attention, not sure what it is, but people just don't like people who drive 911s
Maser Good points
Best looking car on the road, best sounding car on the road, always put a smile on my face, a very capable GT car, great interior, 4 proper seats and a big boot, very rare so don't see many others, very reliable, gets a lot of very positive attention
Maser bad points
MC Shift gearbox in heavy slow traffic, is annoying, seats not that supportive (been fixed in the new Sport) its a large GT car so can feel it at times.
I sold my GTS a few months back and can honestly say I miss it like no other car, when I sold the 911 and bought the GTS, as much as I liked the 911, I didn't miss the 911 at all.
You both need to drive them both, on the same day, that's the only way to understand what is for you both. The above are my thoughts on ownership of both, others I'm sure will have a different take, one thing is for sure, you wont be disappointed with either, but choose wisely and do your research, as both are very exterior/interior colour sensitive in terms of resale.
Only thing I'd add is Maserati dealers look for a wider spread between trade-in and retail value on the Granturismo than Porsche dealers do on the 911, which can lead to lower than expected bids when you come to sell your Maserati but the flipside is the Granturismo is holding onto value better than the 911.
M4SER said:
Great summary of the ownership experience of these two cars. Truth is, both cars are stereotypical of their country of origin, so it's Germany vs Italy, your choice.
Only thing I'd add is Maserati dealers look for a wider spread between trade-in and retail value on the Granturismo than Porsche dealers do on the 911, which can lead to lower than expected bids when you come to sell your Maserati but the flipside is the Granturismo is holding onto value better than the 911.
Welcome to PH, Harry Only thing I'd add is Maserati dealers look for a wider spread between trade-in and retail value on the Granturismo than Porsche dealers do on the 911, which can lead to lower than expected bids when you come to sell your Maserati but the flipside is the Granturismo is holding onto value better than the 911.
Fantastic Welcome Harry
Im currently on the look out for a MC shift mainly due to Evo and Harry's comments and videos
As many others on this thread Im a previous 911 owner now fancy something a little different
Cant wait but happy to hangon for the right car will post up when I get one located.
Im currently on the look out for a MC shift mainly due to Evo and Harry's comments and videos
As many others on this thread Im a previous 911 owner now fancy something a little different
Cant wait but happy to hangon for the right car will post up when I get one located.
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