Gallardo: Balboni or Superleggera?

Gallardo: Balboni or Superleggera?

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andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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AdvocatusD said:
Guys, thanks a lot for this. Some really helpful stuff here.

Could I be impose a little more? I'm finding it a little difficult to fully get a grasp on all the different variants! Could someone give me an idiots guide focusing on the more "special" versions?

I've never come across the LP 560 -2 version before for example...

Going to see if I can dig up some more videos!
you need our reference section : http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

lamboman100

1,445 posts

121 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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andrew said:
AdvocatusD said:
Guys, thanks a lot for this. Some really helpful stuff here.

Could I be impose a little more? I'm finding it a little difficult to fully get a grasp on all the different variants! Could someone give me an idiots guide focusing on the more "special" versions?

I've never come across the LP 560 -2 version before for example...

Going to see if I can dig up some more videos!
you need our reference section : http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Every Gallardo model and sub-model listed in chronological order from 2003 to 2013 here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Gallard...

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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AdvocatusD said:
Could I be impose a little more? I'm finding it a little difficult to fully get a grasp on all the different variants! Could someone give me an idiots guide focusing on the more "special" versions?

I've never come across the LP 560 -2 version before for example...

Every single review seems to refer to how "dated" it has/is become/becoming. Is that really a real world issue for people like me? I mean, my Stradale is based on a 1999 car...

Also, a lot of reviews for the specials just end saying "just buy the base model". Certainly. not the case with equivalent Ferraris?
i'm not going to go into every version, as some were cosmetic/spec editions.... but pertinent to your original question....

sl versions...... gen I, 2007-2008, limited edition, 530hp, retuned suspension, straight through exhaust, lots of weight reduction via use of carbon fibre and plastic glass... 100kg saved.... the first sl, 1330kg dw
gen II, 2010 on, lp570-4 superleggera..... lots of carbon bits but not as extreme in weight saving, a more mainstream model rather then limited edition, sold in lower volumes as cost over 200k new...interstingly not as light as the gen 1... 1340kg dw
there were three versions based on the lp570 with further weight savings... mainly through use of a plastic engine cover, and they all had the large rieter racing rear wing... the blancpain edition, in black, the super trofeo, in rosso mars, and following the 2013 facelift, the squadra corsa, the latter had a tricolore stripe
the edition technica lp570 cars were a spec thing... they had a two colour paint job, CCb's and large spoiler as standard.... believe it or not the large spoiler on the sl was an option!!

2wd drive versions...... no gen I, 2009-2010, the balboni edition, 550-2, first 2wd Gallardo, high spec, manual or egear, stripe theme inside and out.... this was more expensive than the 4wd car, limited edition
2010- they then released the 550-2 coupe and 2013 spyder..... essentially the balboni minus the stripe, mainstream models, cheaper than the 4wd, sold less well in Europe than the us, go figure? some say suspension better sorted cf balboni cars, 1380kg dw ... some cars came in very basic spec, no options!
?2012, the tricolore 550-2... to celebrate something, Italian colours on a thin stripe inside and out
the us market got a 2wd bicolore, which was a 4wd edition for ROW, bizarre

2013 - to celebrate 50th birthday of automobili Lamborghini, the 560-2 anniversary edition.... very limited, lots of weight saving, all white bar four uk cars... 1320kg dw

re the dated bit..... the chassis was an all aluminium spaceframe, ahead of its time when launched, and unchanged throughout..... think what they mean by dated was the electronics were more primitive cf the 12c and 458, and the gearbox was single clutch...... the 2009 introduction of the LP was more than a facelift, yes, the chassis was unchanged, but an all new 5.2l direct injection engine, new gearbox, new clutch design, new suspension, etc etc etc etc..... 'dated' my arse..... if modern is playstation supercars, i'll take mine dated every day of the week thanks.... if this was applied to the 911, then the 911 isn't dated, its ancient!!! became a term all journos said re the Gallardo, almost cos one had to....but do they say it for the 911, no.... again, go figure!

finally, yes, most reviews say get the base car.... as the specials cost a lot more, and the base cars were so good, esp the lp 560, think it lost evo car of the year when launched to the GTR and won car performance car of the year.... so yes, why spend more, a lot more, for a few tweaks..... the point is the base cars are very good!! but if you can spend the extra... then why not...... tbh the alcantara interior is worth the extra itself!

Edited by 70proof on Sunday 10th August 09:44

sa_20v

4,108 posts

231 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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coyft said:
For looks has to be the gen1. Other than that I think 70proof has it spot on.

Yup, less produced than the LP570 SL too. A PH favourite as well.

Suggest testing all and not relying on what we say - we're all biased but some members make more noise than others on here. biggrin

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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sa_20v said:
coyft said:
Other than that I think 70proof has it spot on.
we're all biased but some members make more noise than others on here. biggrin
gbrf1 hasn't mentioned the PET in this thread??!!??!! tongue out


Edited by 70proof on Sunday 10th August 08:04

Craigwww

853 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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sa_20v said:
coyft said:
For looks has to be the gen1. Other than that I think 70proof has it spot on.

Yup, less produced than the LP570 SL too. A PH favourite as well.

Suggest testing all and not relying on what we say - we're all biased but some members make more noise than others on here. biggrin
Each to their own but the Gen 1 SL is starting to look a bit dated, rear lights are awkward looking and the wheels never really suited it.The LP570 is a bit fresher, has more modern design highlights, more aggressive and looks more focused than the Gen 1. The general motoring press regard it as an improvement over the Gen 1. The LP just doesn't have the same following yet as the old SL but deserves it even more IMO. Both are fantastic cars however and you wouldn't be disappointed with either.

AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Another vote here for either the original SL, or the Balboni. The 570SL was imo a bodykitted 560 with different wheels and a mild ecu tweak, that still makes it a good car but not that special/different vs a normal 560. The original SL is more special (except the ones with aftermarket wings). The Baboni or LP550-2 is imo a better drivers car though, getting rid of the 4wd means you have lovely uncorrupted steering and a car you can properly play with. But try them all and get what floats your boat

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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looks are very subjective...... also the front splitter on the gen II sl is not carbon, so looks like a big bit of black plastic that maybe is over emphasised.... colour also very important..... I do think the yellow and orange gen I cars look super, black suits the sl the least imo

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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AndrewD said:
Another vote here for either the original SL, or the Balboni. The 570SL was imo a bodykitted 560 with different wheels and a mild ecu tweak, that still makes it a good car but not that special/different vs a normal 560. The original SL is more special (except the ones with aftermarket wings). The Baboni or LP550-2 is imo a better drivers car though, getting rid of the 4wd means you have lovely uncorrupted steering and a car you can properly play with. But try them all and get what floats your boat
i know that he dumped you, but at least spell his name correctly
hth

AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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70proof said:
looks are very subjective...... also the front splitter on the gen II sl is not carbon, so looks like a big bit of black plastic that maybe is over emphasised.... colour also very important..... I do think the yellow and orange gen I cars look super, black suits the sl the least imo
What about the unpainted ones?

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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AndrewD said:
What about the unpainted ones?
personally....... i'd rather not say...... ps. who dumped you.

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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AndrewD said:
70proof said:
looks are very subjective...... also the front splitter on the gen II sl is not carbon, so looks like a big bit of black plastic that maybe is over emphasised.... colour also very important..... I do think the yellow and orange gen I cars look super, black suits the sl the least imo
What about the unpainted ones?
they're the fastest and bestest of all tongue out

AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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70proof said:
AndrewD said:
What about the unpainted ones?
personally....... i'd rather not say...... ps. who dumped you.
Nobody, as far as I know!

I am warming to the idea of a VI aventador roadster btw

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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andrew said:
they're the fastest and bestest of all tongue out


I can see why.... extra weight saving...

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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AndrewD said:
70proof said:
AndrewD said:
What about the unpainted ones?
personally....... i'd rather not say...... ps. who dumped you.
Nobody, as far as I know!

I am warming to the idea of a VI aventador roadster btw
only because mr c told you to get one !

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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AndrewD said:
I am warming to the idea of a VI aventador roadster btw
top man, lovely choice

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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70proof said:
andrew said:
they're the fastest and bestest of all tongue out


I can see why.... extra weight saving...
brilliant !
i was going to do that myself yesterday, but along came AndrewD to remind me how unfunny a tired old joke can be biggrin

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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andrew said:
only because mr c told you to get one !
whos mr c...... and guess us three are not at wilton...

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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70proof said:
andrew said:
only because mr c told you to get one !
whos mr c...... and guess us three are not at wilton...
mr d's manager