Why so many Huracan's for sale?

Why so many Huracan's for sale?

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Streetrod

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205 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Is it normal that so early after launch there are so many delivery milage Lamborghini Huracan's for sale? There are 33 for sale on the classifieds on PH at the moment. Am I missing something???confused

s2000db

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152 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Hmmm, speculators with fingers burnt, by average press reviews syndrome?

TISPKJ

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206 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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It's 100k ? More than the very late / last of the Gallardo which puts it in a different place for most I guess.

threesixty

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202 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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s2000db said:
Hmmm, speculators with fingers burnt, by average press reviews syndrome?
Very much this.

I was offered discount from a main dealer while lots of independents were still trying to punt them out for over list.

It's just not a good enough car for it's price point, nowhere near as fast as a 650S, gallardo is better looking, interior is good but the ones I drove both had minor electrical issues.

Anjum

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283 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Its a great car - to use every day - where you won't be 10/10th all the time. I have cancelled my order - because when I ordered it - I hadn't driven it. I subsequently - and opted for a 458 Speciale.

But you know that when the Superleggera comes out - it's going to answer all of the issues that have been pointed out by the max attack brigade. It's a great platform to build from - and will only get better....

My only guess as to why there are so many available - is that Lamborghini have taken over 3,000 orders since Geneva - and the production is ramping up....

TISPKJ

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206 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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I also imagine a very large number of the current batch were dealer / demo cars.
Lovely looking things though, I am also told they are quicker off the mark than the aventador .... Although the fella was trying to sell me one at the time :-)

Streetrod

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Thursday 15th January 2015
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Anjum said:
Its a great car - to use every day - where you won't be 10/10th all the time. I have cancelled my order - because when I ordered it - I hadn't driven it. I subsequently - and opted for a 458 Speciale.

But you know that when the Superleggera comes out - it's going to answer all of the issues that have been pointed out by the max attack brigade. It's a great platform to build from - and will only get better....

My only guess as to why there are so many available - is that Lamborghini have taken over 3,000 orders since Geneva - and the production is ramping up....
If as you say 3000 orders have been taken, I am not sure how many of those will be in the UK, does that not mean that the numbers available on the second hand market is only going to ramp up quickly? Or will speculators on seeing the current numbers for sale pull their orders like you as an instant profit is now looking unlikely?

The fact that the car has not had universally good reviews must also be having an effect. Plus will Lamborghini be worried about future sales of the standard model as surly the Superleggera will not hit the market for a least a couple of years?

Sorry for all the questions but I just want to under how this market works


Beefmeister

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229 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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As an example Lambo Pangbourne are already on their second demo car, so there is obviously going to be lots on the market if every dealer is doing that.

Plus there's still a long wait for a build, so lots are happy to take a demo car.

TISPKJ

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Thursday 15th January 2015
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Having recently been in the market for a Gallardo I found them difficult to source the right car, if you did see what looked like value or a car in the "right" colour they went very quickly at strong money.
I was told by Pangbourne and Sevenoaks that it is far easier to source me a new / demo Hurracan than a good used Gallardo.
I hate to say it but it looks to me like total over production (like Porsche did to kill the brand)in order to make more money / dell more cars.
it is also pitched at what £220k ? the very last Gallardos were 140 ish was it ? the performante super dooper etc etc 160k ? thats a big difference.
My bet is over production.

andrew

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191 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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in this niche, it used to be a straight choice between ferrari and lambo

now mclaren are also chasing much the same customers

and the gap down to the 911 is smaller than ever, if existent

supersport

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226 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Don't they build them to order? If so I wouldn't have thought over production.

TISPKJ

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Thursday 15th January 2015
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andrew said:
in this niche, it used to be a straight choice between ferrari and lambo

now mclaren are also chasing much the same customers

and the gap down to the 911 is smaller than ever, if existent
But thats kind of my point they are not now priced in that "niche"
starter money used appears to be £200k (196) which is stated as a 10k discount

List on a 458 is what 170 ?
650S similar 170 from memory
911 not really relevant but Turbo last time I looked 140 max

Interestingly similar number of Aventador for sale albeit an older car.

GRBF430F1

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169 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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TISPKJ said:
But thats kind of my point they are not now priced in that "niche"
starter money used appears to be £200k (196) which is stated as a 10k discount

List on a 458 is what 170 ?
650S similar 170 from memory
911 not really relevant but Turbo last time I looked 140 max

Interestingly similar number of Aventador for sale albeit an older car.
650s coupe List is £195k Spider is £215k Then you need to add about £30k in options to get a reasonable spec car. McLaren have hit the nail on the head with this car

Its the benchmark car right now - it chews up and spits out 458's and quite frankly I wouldn't even bother to compare it with Huracan myself.
Like someone has said a few speculators will be getting their fingers burnt on these. I'm not saying its a bad car but its becoming less Lambo and more VW and that's not going to appeal to your traditional Lamborghini customer

Huracan is not in the same league I'm afraid, massive disappointment after the Gallardo but musn't grumble apple crumble all good for LP570 - 4 Performante Edizione Tecnica residuals allegedly.
I'm sure there was some bloke on here who said something similar back a while as well, mmmmm.




Edited by GRBF430F1 on Thursday 15th January 16:33

andrew

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Thursday 15th January 2015
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TISPKJ said:
andrew said:
in this niche, it used to be a straight choice between ferrari and lambo

now mclaren are also chasing much the same customers

and the gap down to the 911 is smaller than ever, if existent
But thats kind of my point they are not now priced in that "niche"
starter money used appears to be £200k (196) which is stated as a 10k discount

List on a 458 is what 170 ?
650S similar 170 from memory
911 not really relevant but Turbo last time I looked 140 max

Interestingly similar number of Aventador for sale albeit an older car.
a/t evo, still in the same ballpark :

164 gallardo ( 560/4 )
176 mp12
177 458
181 hurracan
195 650 ( less discount biggrin )


TISPKJ

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Thursday 15th January 2015
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andrew said:
TISPKJ said:
andrew said:
in this niche, it used to be a straight choice between ferrari and lambo

now mclaren are also chasing much the same customers

and the gap down to the 911 is smaller than ever, if existent
But thats kind of my point they are not now priced in that "niche"
starter money used appears to be £200k (196) which is stated as a 10k discount

List on a 458 is what 170 ?
650S similar 170 from memory
911 not really relevant but Turbo last time I looked 140 max

Interestingly similar number of Aventador for sale albeit an older car.
a/t evo, still in the same ballpark :

164 gallardo ( 560/4 )
176 mp12
177 458
181 hurracan
195 650 ( less discount biggrin )
Fair enough stand corrected but also kind of shows why there are 35 for sale, I am a strong believer in that you never ever get back any of the expenditure on extras, alloy wheels, leather trim etc the possible exception at the right money.

all the talk about rubbish resale on for example the 458 is down to the "extras" anyone who paid 170 for a 458 3 years ago would still get circa 130 today ok 40k is 40k but thats not as bad as the guy that spent 200 plus, like for like his car isnt worth 30k more in todays market.

same with Hurracan, i wouldnt pay 200 or 196 when I can buy new for 180.

_Leg_

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Thursday 15th January 2015
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GRBF430F1 said:
Its the benchmark car right now - it chews up and spits out 458's
In what respect?

GRBF430F1

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Thursday 15th January 2015
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_Leg_ said:
In what respect?
Everything bar the exhaust note TBH. I'm not going to repeat previous posts in fear of a backlash from other posters thinking I'm bigging up the car all the time

Go drive one and if you don't agree with me I'll buy it for you. I'm a Ferrari diehard and I would not buy anything else without a very good reason.
And before Andrew chirps in with his two size 12's the 650s spider was considerably more money and less discount than I was offered on a 458 spider

Anyway want to play it all down so no one else buys one and mine becomes worth even more biggrin:

TISPKJ

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Thursday 15th January 2015
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_Leg_ said:
In what respect?
Don't encourage him mate please :-)

Streetrod

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Thursday 15th January 2015
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So are we all saying that the Huracan is not what we hoped it would be and this is why so many appear to be for sale so early? Only about 16 650s are currently available and those are split between spyders and coupes....

GRBF430F1

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169 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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The tide has turned and its great to be BRITISH. At the forefront of the motor industry once again, and long overdue.
Hats off to McLaren, putting the GREAT back into Britain