Paul Bailey's got all three

Paul Bailey's got all three

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Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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RDMcG said:
One little girl dead.
Where are you getting that from? No deaths reported yet on any major news sites

_Superleggera_

2,004 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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I've just got wind of this. Terrible, just terrible.

footsoldier

2,258 posts

192 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Beefmeister said:
Where are you getting that from? No deaths reported yet on any major news sites
I've got business/friends in Malta, and am flying there in the morning. Just got a text from someone there, and no mention of anyone dead although 5 critical. Hope it improves from there...

Drclarke

1,185 posts

173 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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This is awful news for all involved.

darreni

3,788 posts

270 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Horrible news, thoughts to all involved.

Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Was it Paul Bailey driving or his car being driven by someone else?

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Paul was driving. Some head injuries but is ok.

SydneyBridge

8,592 posts

158 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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PB driving apparently and he appears to be shown injured in the video of the aftermath

Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Jesus, poor bloke. Not a situation anyone wants to find themselves in, especially with unconfirmed reports of a death of a young girl frown

wijit

1,510 posts

175 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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I believe he crashed the 918 in Malta, leaving five people critically injured including a six year old.

Wacky Racer

38,157 posts

247 months

mattf93

1,273 posts

115 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Ive watched the video a few times, and although at high speed I don't know how clipping the grass forced it to spin/loose control so quickly can anyone enlighten me?

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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mattf93 said:
Ive watched the video a few times, and although at high speed I don't know how clipping the grass forced it to spin/loose control so quickly can anyone enlighten me?
In one of the videos you can see that, just before the loss of control, the car had come past a set of barriers, which manoeuvre required the driver to apply some left lock. With the left lock, the car began as normal to rotate anti-clockwise. The lateral grip of the tyres controlled the anti-clockwise rotation.

Because the car was still rotating at the moment when the offside rear tyre hit the grass, and at that moment the driver still had some left steering lock on, the car continued to rotate but there was no longer enough lateral grip to contain that rotation.

On a split surface, a car can roll at high speed in a straight line. As soon as you introduce a factor of change, however, such as braking, acceleration or lateral force, you will have a problem.

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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I had earlier reported that there was a fatality on the scene based on information I received from someone who was a witness to the event. AGTLAW contacted me to correct this information which was not true. I apologize to everyone form my error and have deleted the post.

Bo_apex

2,562 posts

218 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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terrible incident. Thoughts go out to all involved,
No armco, no tyre barriers, no crash helmet etc. etc.
Hopefully charity organisers will increase safety protocol on future events.

f1ten

2,161 posts

153 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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that's horrendous to watch.
sadly a lot of injuries and people hurt here.
I guess once again we need to review the quality of barriers used eg. I think goodwood festival does a good job with haybails backed with wooden posts and a gravel trap at the most dangerous corner.

AMDB9

2,714 posts

207 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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WTF! First Paul Walker gets killed in a Porsche and now Paul Bailey has nearly killed himself and a few others in the process - are Porka's really that unsafe? Both people who crashed these car's are pretty good drivers from the sounds of it - seems to me that it's the car's safety dynamics at fault and unable to keep up with the car's power!? Shocking!

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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AMDB9 said:
WTF! First Paul Walker gets killed in a Porsche and now Paul Bailey has nearly killed himself and a few others in the process - are Porka's really that unsafe? Both people who crashed these car's are pretty good drivers from the sounds of it - seems to me that it's the car's safety dynamics at fault and unable to keep up with the car's power!? Shocking!
Jesus Christ, do you write for the Daily Mail?!?!

There are lots of 918s and Carrera GTs that haven't been crashed. Lots.

Walker's crash was caused by one thing and one thing only - Rodas was driving like a c**t. 90-100mph in a 30 zone.

Paul Bailey's crash was as flemke described, just an unlucky set of events meaning he lost control. The organisers and their lack of proper safety protocols are to blame for the injuries to spectators.

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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AMDB9 said:
WTF! First Paul Walker gets killed in a Porsche and now Paul Bailey has nearly killed himself and a few others in the process - are Porka's really that unsafe? Both people who crashed these car's are pretty good drivers from the sounds of it - seems to me that it's the car's safety dynamics at fault and unable to keep up with the car's power!? Shocking!
I don't mean this to sound confrontational in the context of this awful event but is there good evidence that either of the two people in your post are/were good drivers?
Certainly just owning fast cars doesn't make you a good driver, I wonder if people can over estimate their abilities because of their regular use of dream motors?