Anyone got a Ghibli ? and hows it going ?

[DeltonaS]

Sat in one on the Frankfurt Auto Show and finnally saw three of them on the road the past couple of days. Seeing one on the raod gives a much better perspective. It looked good in Frankfurt but was quite surprised how well ik looks on the road. Ghibli looks a lot classier, possitively different and got way more presence on the road than a BMW 5 series will ever have. And then I haven't even mentioned that a 5 series (or BMW in general) can be seen on every corner. Although at the same time a reason why many people won't buy the Masser. O, and did I mention the quad exhaust; somehow every german car with a quad exhaust system looks overdone, shooty, like a Halfords aftertought or tacky (BMW M3, M5, Audi S3, S4, S6, VW Golf R etc.) But somehow it always suits a Maserati.

[DeltonaS]

AMDB9 said:

I was given a 3.0 Petrol Ghibli for around 3 weeks as a courtesy car whilst my GTS was waiting for parts to arrive from Italy - It is simply appalling! Horrible ride quality, in sports mode the exhausts rattle like f u c k and seem they can't handle the noise crazy vibrations...there is always a horrible drone in the car when in sports mode - bad design. The info screen is like some after market Halfords Kit from China and very slow.

The interior materials feel cheap - plastic and not at all premium. The leather steering wheel in my C class felt much nicer to hold than this one.

I dropped the key on the floor by mistake and the buttons on the key came off and went all over the place! Took me 10 mins to find all the buttons and fix it all back together LOL! If you don't believe me drop your Ghibli key and watch it come to pieces - I was SHOCKED! They are just clicked on the key.

The car feels like it is a Vauxhall or Hyundai and not a Maserati...I really can't believe how they allowed this in to production!! It loses traction even in the dry - yes it is pretty powerful but as a great man once said - power is nothing without control!

I didn't feel comfortable driving it fast at all. This car was made to compete with the likes of BMW, Audi and Mercedes Benz but IMHO has no chance...no bloody way!

get a Panamera mate you will be way better off. If you really want a Maser it has to be a GTS !

The above is so negative, it's silly;

The Ghibli has been tested by many car magazines already; all (quite) positive.

And funny that you mention the sat-nav system as being appaling; has been tested in various products and although not rated as good as that of a BMW, they were quite positive as well.

And by the way; ever used the ancient Blaupunkt system in your GTS.

[AMDB9]

DeltonaS said:

AMDB9 said:

I was given a 3.0 Petrol Ghibli for around 3 weeks as a courtesy car whilst my GTS was waiting for parts to arrive from Italy - It is simply appalling! Horrible ride quality, in sports mode the exhausts rattle like f u c k and seem they can't handle the noise crazy vibrations...there is always a horrible drone in the car when in sports mode - bad design. The info screen is like some after market Halfords Kit from China and very slow.

The interior materials feel cheap - plastic and not at all premium. The leather steering wheel in my C class felt much nicer to hold than this one.

I dropped the key on the floor by mistake and the buttons on the key came off and went all over the place! Took me 10 mins to find all the buttons and fix it all back together LOL! If you don't believe me drop your Ghibli key and watch it come to pieces - I was SHOCKED! They are just clicked on the key.

The car feels like it is a Vauxhall or Hyundai and not a Maserati...I really can't believe how they allowed this in to production!! It loses traction even in the dry - yes it is pretty powerful but as a great man once said - power is nothing without control!

I didn't feel comfortable driving it fast at all. This car was made to compete with the likes of BMW, Audi and Mercedes Benz but IMHO has no chance...no bloody way!

get a Panamera mate you will be way better off. If you really want a Maser it has to be a GTS !

The above is so negative, it's silly;

The Ghibli has been tested by many car magazines already; all (quite) positive.

And funny that you mention the sat-nav system as being appaling; has been tested in various products and although not rated as good as that of a BMW, they were quite positive as well.

And by the way; ever used the ancient Blaupunkt system in your GTS.

It may well sound silly to you but it's 100% factual. I have nothing to gain by lying to the OP FFS!
Oh and my GTS has a Bose sound system that sounds bloody good to me. Yes the screen is now dated but when compared to that of a Ghibli which is a new car it makes the Ghibli look even worse!

Get yourself in one for a few weeks like I did and then lets have a talk again...sitting in one at a motor show says fk all ;-)

Used values will speak volumes in the next 12 months too - I too know of a deisel with 3k miles on the clock available for £37k private sale (64 reg!!) if you want it let me know

Edited by AMDB9 on Sunday 15th March 22:45

[R36vw]

37k?? That's me out. I've been look for a premium DD recently but I'm not going to p!$$ money away. I like the Quattroporte and I would be happier to sink 37k Ina used one than lose that sort of money on a ghibli

[Master Bean]

My dad has a base petrol with not many options and likes it. He has come from a 10 year old saab so doesn't have much to compare it with.

[kith]

Chris Harris seems to like it https://twitter.com/harrismonkey/status/5778113762...

[sjc]

Had a ( non skyhook)diesel on 24 hour test.
Quite simply shocking,the most disappointing car I've driven since the DB7 back in its day. Utterly outclassed in all area's, gave it back early.

[AMDB9]

sjc said:

Had a ( non skyhook)diesel on 24 hour test.
Quite simply shocking,the most disappointing car I've driven since the DB7 back in its day. Utterly outclassed in all area's, gave it back early.

Glad Im not the only one then............

[sjc]

AMDB9 said:

sjc said:

Had a ( non skyhook)diesel on 24 hour test.
Quite simply shocking,the most disappointing car I've driven since the DB7 back in its day. Utterly outclassed in all area's, gave it back early.

Glad Im not the only one then............

After 8 miles I rang the dealer and said "how do I soften the suspension?" He said.."you cant" (this was on standard wheels as well!).The driving position was so bad ( where the centre tunnel suddenly balloons out into the footwell area),that getting back into the company Astravan was a revelation in comfort. Wind noise, road noise, and a laughably stupid Sport button that made a not particularly pleasant diesel engine note even more loudly unpleasant. The rear brake light kept reflecting on the windscreen, some of the materials would be out of place on a Mondeo,even the mpg was much worse than 320cdi CLS I had 10 years ago.I love Maserati, recently sold my Granturismo GTS MC, but my God they are gonna kill the brand if they keep producing crap like that.
I couldn't think of one redeeming feature, other than the coffee was good, and the sales guy was a nice bloke.

[EC2]

Unfortunately most cars seem to not have skyhook fitted when it appears to need it, however, it is expensive. QP has it as standard so maybe dealers need to be steering Ghibli buyers to skyhook rather than pimp wheels. The transmission tunnel is a big issue in QP and I've had two weeks in total in one (one week diesel, one week petrol, latter much much better). Must try the Ghibli on a longer run to find out more.

[P9UYS]

Having changed my 2013 Mercedes 350 CLS CDi for a new Ghibli V6 Petrol back in July 2015, that's 4 months ago.

I have now covered only 3,000 miles and have had no reliability or build issues what so ever and am still loving every minute of the car, it genuinely puts a smile on your face when you push the start button.

My advice and experience is, if your looking for a change from the usual German silver grey cars as I was, this car is a very worthy contender.

The only minor reservation is that I am currently achieving the dizzy heights of 22MPG !! I have been advised by my dealer "Dick Lovetts" that if you select ICE instead of Sport, never mind the weather, it is just a less aggressive drive, keep the Skyhook off and ride like Miss Daisy you can and I have achieved this ..get 30MPG....woop woop !

But is much more fun in sport ( and sounds fab ), skyhook on and leave the sales reps in their 530's, A6's and E Classes' behind .... who cares about 20MPG that's why you drive a "Maserati"

Having said that, I also enjoy the exclusivity the car offers, if everyone where to buy one, they may get more common place and mine may receive less attention, I get people taking pictures of it when I'm driving let alone parked up ....lol.... Now that you don't get in its German rivals.

I did consider a Panamera and the diesel is cheaper than the the Ghibli S when spec'd ... Sadly whilst great cars... any Porsche is a bit chavvy

So in closing don't listen to the old wives tales, any questions please ask !

[DeltonaS]

sjc said:

After 8 miles I rang the dealer and said "how do I soften the suspension?" He said.."you cant" (this was on standard wheels as well!).The driving position was so bad ( where the centre tunnel suddenly balloons out into the footwell area),that getting back into the company Astravan was a revelation in comfort. Wind noise, road noise,

Astravan ?

Strange, multiple reviews say how quiet it is.

sjc said:

and a laughably stupid Sport button that made a not particularly pleasant diesel engine note even more loudly unpleasant. The rear brake light kept reflecting on the windscreen, some of the materials would be out of place on a Mondeo,

Doesn't look like a mondeo to me;

sjc said:

even the mpg was much worse than 320cdi CLS I had 10 years ago.

Your old 320 cdi uses 9 litrs per 100/km (see spritmonitor.de); I'm more than a 100% sure the Ghibli isn't worse than that, it's better.
First obvious reason is that the old CLS has a 6 speed auto vs. the Ghibli's 8 speed.

sjc said:

I love Maserati

Really, be a little bit more factual then instead of this throlling.

[DeltonaS]

Great choice P9UYS, Ghibli looks stunning, engines all seem great as well.

It's not perfect, a bit heavy for instance. But so is a F10 550i and which car is perfect.

[sjc]

DeltonaS said:

sjc said:

After 8 miles I rang the dealer and said "how do I soften the suspension?" He said.."you cant" (this was on standard wheels as well!).The driving position was so bad ( where the centre tunnel suddenly balloons out into the footwell area),that getting back into the company Astravan was a revelation in comfort. Wind noise, road noise,

Astravan ?

Strange, multiple reviews say how quiet it is.

sjc said:

and a laughably stupid Sport button that made a not particularly pleasant diesel engine note even more loudly unpleasant. The rear brake light kept reflecting on the windscreen, some of the materials would be out of place on a Mondeo,

Doesn't look like a mondeo to me;

sjc said:

even the mpg was much worse than 320cdi CLS I had 10 years ago.

Your old 320 cdi uses 9 litrs per 100/km (see spritmonitor.de); I'm more than a 100% sure the Ghibli isn't worse than that, it's better.
First obvious reason is that the old CLS has a 6 speed auto vs. the Ghibli's 8 speed.

sjc said:

I love Maserati

Really, be a little bit more factual then instead of this throlling.

As you've managed to misunderstand virtually every part of my post you've picked out, I can't be arsed to reply fully.
But two things ... 1: Yes, I do love Maserati, which is why I've already put my hard earned money into the brand,and will do again in a year or so for a 4 seat Strad'......and 2: if you're going to accuse me of trolling at least learn how to spell it first .

[DeltonaS]

sjc said:

As you've managed to misunderstand virtually every part of my post you've picked out, I can't be arsed to reply fully.

Ofcourse not, if your "arguments" dried out what's left other than throlling again.

sjc said:

But two things ... 1: Yes, I do love Maserati, which is why I've already put my hard earned money into the brand,and will do again in a year or so for a 4 seat Strad'......and 2: if you're going to accuse me of trolling at least learn how to spell it first .

Great contribution again sjc.

[sjc]

DeltonaS said:

sjc said:

As you've managed to misunderstand virtually every part of my post you've picked out, I can't be arsed to reply fully.

Ofcourse not, if your "arguments" dried out what's left other than throlling again.

sjc said:

But two things ... 1: Yes, I do love Maserati, which is why I've already put my hard earned money into the brand,and will do again in a year or so for a 4 seat Strad'......and 2: if you're going to accuse me of trolling at least learn how to spell it first .

Great contribution again sjc.

My "argument"(read opinion based on first hand experience) hasn't dried out at all I just can't be doing with an internet argument.
There are some that agree above ( plus the salesmen who said my comments were not unusual in his experience, hence the deals suddenly becoming so good)and enough reviews to suggest the car has been not to the level that can compete in the important areas first time round. Even with my Maserati bang drumming of the brand to all and sundry,I simply couldn't defend it,or want it. For me it's a car that doesn't do anything great,doesn't feel special( other than the badge)and does some things quite poorly. For a Maserati,that's not good enough, even with the obvious proviso that it's a first time effort. The flip side is, it's great that some on here are very happy with their experience of it,and the deals are now opening up the brand to others.
Now don't spoil the thread by throlling/trolling/playing internet hardman, if you've got first hand experience of the car then post it?,whether it be Ghibli ownership,a week long test drive,24 hour courtesy car or whatever.

[EC2]

P9UYS said:

Having changed my 2013 Mercedes 350 CLS CDi for a new Ghibli V6 Petrol back in July 2015, that's 4 months ago.

I have now covered only 3,000 miles and have had no reliability or build issues what so ever and am still loving every minute of the car, it genuinely puts a smile on your face when you push the start button.

My advice and experience is, if your looking for a change from the usual German silver grey cars as I was, this car is a very worthy contender.

The only minor reservation is that I am currently achieving the dizzy heights of 22MPG !! I have been advised by my dealer "Dick Lovetts" that if you select ICE instead of Sport, never mind the weather, it is just a less aggressive drive, keep the Skyhook off and ride like Miss Daisy you can and I have achieved this ..get 30MPG....woop woop !

But is much more fun in sport ( and sounds fab ), skyhook on and leave the sales reps in their 530's, A6's and E Classes' behind .... who cares about 20MPG that's why you drive a "Maserati"

Having said that, I also enjoy the exclusivity the car offers, if everyone where to buy one, they may get more common place and mine may receive less attention, I get people taking pictures of it when I'm driving let alone parked up ....lol.... Now that you don't get in its German rivals.

I did consider a Panamera and the diesel is cheaper than the the Ghibli S when spec'd ... Sadly whilst great cars... any Porsche is a bit chavvy

So in closing don't listen to the old wives tales, any questions please ask !

Glad you like skyhook but is always on, it just has two settings for firmness. Just like magnetic ride on Ferraris and Audis.

[DeltonaS]

DeltonaS said:

sjc said:

As you've managed to misunderstand virtually every part of my post you've picked out, I can't be arsed to reply fully.

Ofcourse not, if your "arguments" dried out what's left other than throlling again.

sjc said:

But two things ... 1: Yes, I do love Maserati, which is why I've already put my hard earned money into the brand,and will do again in a year or so for a 4 seat Strad'......and 2: if you're going to accuse me of trolling at least learn how to spell it first .

Great contribution again sjc.

sjc said:

My "argument"(read opinion based on first hand experience) hasn't dried out at all I just can't be doing with an internet argument.

an internet "argument" you choose to part of yourself....

sjc said:

There are some that agree above ( plus the salesmen who said my comments were not unusual in his experience, hence the deals suddenly becoming so good)and enough reviews to suggest the car has been not to the level that can compete in the important areas first time round. Even with my Maserati bang drumming of the brand to all and sundry,I simply couldn't defend it,or want it. For me it's a car that doesn't do anything great,doesn't feel special( other than the badge)and does some things quite poorly. For a Maserati,that's not good enough, even with the obvious proviso that it's a first time effort.

The Ghibli could well be not on a competitive level on some areas, satnav is an obvious one. However on others it's competitive or a class above; the latter being exterior styling. But the reasons that you gave earlier are (as you probably know) (partly) untrue, even negative to the point internetslang forces me to call it throlling.

Besides your own GranTursimo can't compete on certain areas with for instance Ze Germans as well, still you choose to buy it.

sjc said:

The flip side is, it's great that some on here are very happy with their experience of it,and the deals are now opening up the brand to others.
Now don't spoil the thread by throlling/trolling/playing internet hardman, if you've got first hand experience of the car then post it?,whether it be Ghibli ownership,a week long test drive,24 hour courtesy car or whatever.

Nice try sjc. Your making circumventing manoeuvres again with your suggestive statements. You seem to have difficulties reponding to my contentual statements and defending your own.

Edited by DeltonaS on Thursday 12th November 20:00

[sjc]

There was one simple question that you didn't answer.
Enjoy your own company tonight.
Apologies to the OP and others if the thread has been spoilt.

[DeltonaS]

sjc said:

There was one simple question that you didn't answer.

What are you sjc; a pretentious pleb or a disingenious child....

sjc said:

Enjoy your own company tonight.
Apologies to the OP and others if the thread has been spoilt.

Good to see you still have some decency left to apologize to the PH forum for spoiling a thread on a car forum, for car enthousiast with statements that seem to have other purposes than the subject matter.