Do you fit a front plate?
Poll: Do you fit a front plate?
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Discussion
sonicbloo said:
http://www.platesforcars.co.uk/?gcli...FQoa4QodxRs...
design the plate with the font / size required. I have used them several times, and standard delivery is very quick (2 days in my experience)
my front plate is 13" x 4.4" with motorcycle font. No doubt highly illegal, but less chance of getting stopped than for having no plate.
Thanks. Link doesn't work as supplied, but found the website. Already have a 13x4.4" front plate, albeit with the full size font.design the plate with the font / size required. I have used them several times, and standard delivery is very quick (2 days in my experience)
my front plate is 13" x 4.4" with motorcycle font. No doubt highly illegal, but less chance of getting stopped than for having no plate.
Wilder said:
They could read it providing they can do that upside down , and at speed, and if it got keyed it would be amazing as its always in the garage and only goes out for afternoon blasts. ( maybe they could key it running alongside - (that might work)
Only car to my knowledge allowed a stick on plate is the E type Jag.
Stick-on plates are neither legal nor illegal, per se. Only car to my knowledge allowed a stick on plate is the E type Jag.
There are a bunch of criteria for reg plates. Leaving to one side the ones relating to font style, size, spacing and border, the only specific requirement for the rest is a reflectivity/colour test for the background. If it came down to it, the car owner would have to have his specific plates tested to ascertain whether his plates met the standard. It could not be said beforehand whether a given plate background did or did not meet the reflectivity standard.
There is a requirement that the plate be on a rigid backing. Obviously the bodywork of a car, to which a stick-on plate would be stuck, is rigid.
The other language relates to the flatness of the plate and the angle of the plate; that language is ambiguous.
I am unaware that there is any regulation that gives E-Types a categorical exemption. At the same time, I would be surprised if an authority objected to a stick-on plate if the car owner was seen to have made a genuine attempt to display the registration, but was hampered by the design of the car. This obviously would not apply when 90% of owners of a certain type car had found a way to display a proper reg plate, but the marginal 10% could not resist trying to look cool.
johnnyreggae said:
Evening Standard (so it must be true....) has a story today that a rented Huracan got stopped because of no plate and as a result the driver has been busted for no insurance and the car seized
Moral: if you risk it make sure your docs are in order
A hire car was uninsured? Moral: if you risk it make sure your docs are in order
Maybe driver had no licence, invalidating cover?
flemke said:
Stick-on plates are neither legal nor illegal, per se.
There are a bunch of criteria for reg plates. Leaving to one side the ones relating to font style, size, spacing and border, the only specific requirement for the rest is a reflectivity/colour test for the background. If it came down to it, the car owner would have to have his specific plates tested to ascertain whether his plates met the standard. It could not be said beforehand whether a given plate background did or did not meet the reflectivity standard.
There is a requirement that the plate be on a rigid backing. Obviously the bodywork of a car, to which a stick-on plate would be stuck, is rigid.
The other language relates to the flatness of the plate and the angle of the plate; that language is ambiguous.
I am unaware that there is any regulation that gives E-Types a categorical exemption. At the same time, I would be surprised if an authority objected to a stick-on plate if the car owner was seen to have made a genuine attempt to display the registration, but was hampered by the design of the car. This obviously would not apply when 90% of owners of a certain type car had found a way to display a proper reg plate, but the marginal 10% could not resist trying to look cool.
When I trained as a police officer ( long time ago) the E type was the quoted exemption at training school. I cant see that changing as they stopped making them in 73/74. its the only car I was aware of as having an exemption, but I have never had a problem in my Ultima GTR with the stick on plate. The characters are the correct font, and I think the police are more bothered about fonts and incorrect spacing to really be that picky these days.There are a bunch of criteria for reg plates. Leaving to one side the ones relating to font style, size, spacing and border, the only specific requirement for the rest is a reflectivity/colour test for the background. If it came down to it, the car owner would have to have his specific plates tested to ascertain whether his plates met the standard. It could not be said beforehand whether a given plate background did or did not meet the reflectivity standard.
There is a requirement that the plate be on a rigid backing. Obviously the bodywork of a car, to which a stick-on plate would be stuck, is rigid.
The other language relates to the flatness of the plate and the angle of the plate; that language is ambiguous.
I am unaware that there is any regulation that gives E-Types a categorical exemption. At the same time, I would be surprised if an authority objected to a stick-on plate if the car owner was seen to have made a genuine attempt to display the registration, but was hampered by the design of the car. This obviously would not apply when 90% of owners of a certain type car had found a way to display a proper reg plate, but the marginal 10% could not resist trying to look cool.
I have to be honest I really do not think someone would damage a car just because it didn't have a front plate on it? The police on the other hand is a seperate issue.
In my younger days my plate fell off and "I" thought it looked so much better I never bothered to put it back on. Got away with it for 10 months. Eventually got caught and pulled the old "it fell off, ill have it on by tomorrow rubbish as it was in the car".
(They obviously knew I was probably taking the piss)
The next day - exact same spot, in the way home from uni, pulled me over again lol
I didnt even bother to say anything, I just laughed and they were laughing too and gave me 3 points and a small fine.
Needless to say the plate was back on after this.
In my younger days my plate fell off and "I" thought it looked so much better I never bothered to put it back on. Got away with it for 10 months. Eventually got caught and pulled the old "it fell off, ill have it on by tomorrow rubbish as it was in the car".
(They obviously knew I was probably taking the piss)
The next day - exact same spot, in the way home from uni, pulled me over again lol
I didnt even bother to say anything, I just laughed and they were laughing too and gave me 3 points and a small fine.
Needless to say the plate was back on after this.
Wilder said:
flemke said:
Stick-on plates are neither legal nor illegal, per se.
There are a bunch of criteria for reg plates. Leaving to one side the ones relating to font style, size, spacing and border, the only specific requirement for the rest is a reflectivity/colour test for the background. If it came down to it, the car owner would have to have his specific plates tested to ascertain whether his plates met the standard. It could not be said beforehand whether a given plate background did or did not meet the reflectivity standard.
There is a requirement that the plate be on a rigid backing. Obviously the bodywork of a car, to which a stick-on plate would be stuck, is rigid.
The other language relates to the flatness of the plate and the angle of the plate; that language is ambiguous.
I am unaware that there is any regulation that gives E-Types a categorical exemption. At the same time, I would be surprised if an authority objected to a stick-on plate if the car owner was seen to have made a genuine attempt to display the registration, but was hampered by the design of the car. This obviously would not apply when 90% of owners of a certain type car had found a way to display a proper reg plate, but the marginal 10% could not resist trying to look cool.
When I trained as a police officer ( long time ago) the E type was the quoted exemption at training school. I cant see that changing as they stopped making them in 73/74. its the only car I was aware of as having an exemption, but I have never had a problem in my Ultima GTR with the stick on plate. The characters are the correct font, and I think the police are more bothered about fonts and incorrect spacing to really be that picky these days.There are a bunch of criteria for reg plates. Leaving to one side the ones relating to font style, size, spacing and border, the only specific requirement for the rest is a reflectivity/colour test for the background. If it came down to it, the car owner would have to have his specific plates tested to ascertain whether his plates met the standard. It could not be said beforehand whether a given plate background did or did not meet the reflectivity standard.
There is a requirement that the plate be on a rigid backing. Obviously the bodywork of a car, to which a stick-on plate would be stuck, is rigid.
The other language relates to the flatness of the plate and the angle of the plate; that language is ambiguous.
I am unaware that there is any regulation that gives E-Types a categorical exemption. At the same time, I would be surprised if an authority objected to a stick-on plate if the car owner was seen to have made a genuine attempt to display the registration, but was hampered by the design of the car. This obviously would not apply when 90% of owners of a certain type car had found a way to display a proper reg plate, but the marginal 10% could not resist trying to look cool.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&...
There is no mention of "Jaguar" or "E-Type" in it. Probably 80% of the language relates to font style, size and spacing.
In the language there are references to BSA 1998 standards for the UK reg plate. The BSA standards are here:
www.bikechatforums.com/files/bs_au_145d.pdf
The BSA standards that might apply to a stick-on plate particularly relate to the reflectivity of the background and the angle from which it must be legible. There is nothing that proscribes a stick-on plate or a curved plate per se.
People more knowledgeable than I might want to have a look at the BSA standards and tell us whether they think that a curved plate would meet the reflectivity and legibility criteria.
Coming back to the E-Type, if the cars came as new with a stick-on plate, perhaps that is the source of the notion that the E-Type has a special dispensation. That would not be in respect of its being an E-Type, but rather because whatever was legal at the time of its first registration, pre-73, has got grandfathered in, the same as silver-on-black plates. Indeed on many vintage vehicles the reg number was hand-painted directly onto the bodywork, which was legal when it was done and is legal still.
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