Gallardo vs F430

[Dblue]

dang2407 said:

So how about comparing the F430 to the LP550-2? All the 550-2 reviewers remarked how much more nimble it felt compared to its 4wd brother. Surely this would be a better contestant to match the 430...

I have a direct comparison between an LP550-2 and a 430 Scuderia. The aforementioned strengths of the Ferrari remain in the Scud but with substantially more sharpness, performance and kudos. The Gallardo is not as agile or delicate nor as sharp as the Scuderia even in 2wd form but its engine is superior to the Scuderia (Let alone the F430) in delivery, noise and "specialness".But its very very good to drive with friendly chassis very good steering and well resolved damping. It could do with being a little less firm on occasions and the bumpy road setting of the Ferrari is an advantage.The F1 box is great fun if you want a paddle shift but my Gallardo is a manual and the interaction and buzz of a , very good, open gated manual is great.
Anyone who criticises the Gallardo's interior or is sniffy about Audi A4 nav and climate controls needs to try the Becker Nav/radio instead which is utter pants. 1990s stuff really.

The Gallardo gets more attention in a positive way than the (red) Ferrari ever did and in a straight race I reckon the Gallardo has the measure of the Scuderia , let alone the 430. Rolling acceleration even more so. Quite easy to get bogged down in a 430.

I would have to say that I'm not a massive fan of the Ferrari tifosi though, IME its uncritical fanboy worship

[RacerMDR]

GarethDM said:

Buy whatever makes you smile, enjoy it, make sure you look out of the window in the morning and when you see it you grin and buzz and just want to take it for a spin. Unless your pro-proam race driver are you going to be so critical as to differentiate your Lambo vs Fezza either will make you feel alive. I'm in a bright orange Lambo Performante, I've had to adjust to continual photo flashes from iPhones and hearing young and old whoop shout Lambo and point (yep the dull Gallardo who'd have thought it!) On the track pro drivers have complemented and this Monday one kept all but the R8 LMS GT3 car in his wake. All these cars are great, again but the one that made you smile the most, enjoy your ride good hunting

100% agree

[Slickhillsy]

Dblue said:

in a straight race I reckon the Gallardo has the measure of the Scuderia , let alone the 430. Rolling acceleration even more so. Quite easy to get bogged down in a 430.

Oh yeah see what you mean!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrgbIz_lq-c

[Dblue]

Slickhillsy said:

Dblue said:

in a straight race I reckon the Gallardo has the measure of the Scuderia , let alone the 430. Rolling acceleration even more so. Quite easy to get bogged down in a 430.

Oh yeah see what you mean!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrgbIz_lq-c

Thats a mark 1 Superleggera rather than an LP (40bhp ) and the Scud got an early jump.

You'd accept a 458 Italia has the legs on a Scud I assume?This is how a Balboni compares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv_YApsenG8

Still laughing

[70proof]

great guys the gtboard lot, gustav used to run the m5 board too..... the runs they do are the best, always best of three and rolling starts

[Slickhillsy]

Dblue said:

Slickhillsy said:

Dblue said:

in a straight race I reckon the Gallardo has the measure of the Scuderia , let alone the 430. Rolling acceleration even more so. Quite easy to get bogged down in a 430.

Oh yeah see what you mean!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrgbIz_lq-c

Thats a mark 1 Superleggera rather than an LP (40bhp ) and the Scud got an early jump.

You'd accept a 458 Italia has the legs on a Scud I assume?This is how a Balboni compares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv_YApsenG8

Still laughing

So...

1. Is the Lambo Sup. Not the equivalent lambo rather than the Balboni
2. Sure there was a jump but the drag says the Scud definately has the legs
3. Balboni and 458 look about evens and yes that would have the jump on the Scud
4. IMO Of all the Lambos the Balboni's the one to have. Stunning, limited, 2wd and special bits.


Was seriously looking for one but did settle on the Scud in the end. Better looking, better noise (they have an F1 team for gods sake), and of course they're much quicker lol

[Dblue]

Slickhillsy said:

Dblue said:

Slickhillsy said:

Dblue said:

in a straight race I reckon the Gallardo has the measure of the Scuderia , let alone the 430. Rolling acceleration even more so. Quite easy to get bogged down in a 430.

Oh yeah see what you mean!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrgbIz_lq-c

Thats a mark 1 Superleggera rather than an LP (40bhp ) and the Scud got an early jump.

You'd accept a 458 Italia has the legs on a Scud I assume?This is how a Balboni compares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv_YApsenG8

Still laughing

So...

1. Is the Lambo Sup. Not the equivalent lambo rather than the Balboni
2. Sure there was a jump but the drag says the Scud definately has the legs
3. Balboni and 458 look about evens and yes that would have the jump on the Scud
4. IMO Of all the Lambos the Balboni's the one to have. Stunning, limited, 2wd and special bits.


Was seriously looking for one but did settle on the Scud in the end. Better looking, better noise (they have an F1 team for gods sake), and of course they're much quicker lol

The first ltd edition SL was a 5.0 only, the LP that was current in 2009 (When the Scud was being made ) is a 5.2 FSi
The only "special" bits on a Balboni over an LP550-2 are some white stickers and a little plaque

Any LP Gallardo (any of them) will toast a 430 in a straight line.

I have had 1,000s of miles in both, the Scuderia is a great car but its a close call and easy enough to make a case for the Lamborghini.

[Slickhillsy]

Dblue said:

I have had 1,000s of miles in both, the Scuderia is a great car but its a close call and easy enough for ME to make a case for the Lamborghini.

Updated that last quote for you sir!

[andrew]

Dblue said:

The only "special" bits on a Balboni over an LP550-2 are some white stickers and a little plaque

and stripey seats

[gcpeters]

For myself it came down to two simple things...

1) being 6ft 2 the seats in the Gallardo coupe didn't go back far enough or fit me well..
2) the old audi a3 heater controls, switches and sat nav would bug my OCD'ness in a 90k + car....

[LordOfTheManor]

Lambo without a doubt !

[andrew]

gcpeters said:

For myself it came down to two simple things...

1) being 6ft 2 the seats in the Gallardo coupe didn't go back far enough or fit me well..
2) the old audi a3 heater controls, switches and sat nav would bug my OCD'ness in a 90k + car....

best then that you don't look too carefully for old fiat bits in the donkey

[Dblue]

andrew said:

gcpeters said:

For myself it came down to two simple things...

1) being 6ft 2 the seats in the Gallardo coupe didn't go back far enough or fit me well..
2) the old audi a3 heater controls, switches and sat nav would bug my OCD'ness in a 90k + car....

best then that you don't look too carefully for old fiat bits in the donkey

It has a 1990s Becker single DIN radio too and the sat nav function is almost entirely hopeless. By comparison the Audi sat nav is state of the art.

[gcpeters]

Dblue said:

andrew said:

gcpeters said:

For myself it came down to two simple things...

1) being 6ft 2 the seats in the Gallardo coupe didn't go back far enough or fit me well..
2) the old audi a3 heater controls, switches and sat nav would bug my OCD'ness in a 90k + car....

best then that you don't look too carefully for old fiat bits in the donkey

It has a 1990s Becker single DIN radio too and the sat nav function is almost entirely hopeless. By comparison the Audi sat nav is state of the art.

the good news for me though is that I have never owned a fiat so I ignorance is bliss, where as I have had an A3 and could spot them all the time..

As for the becker/ sat nav I don't use either... but its a valid point! Still doesn't help with the seat issue though..

[WCZ]

i'd say an LP over a 430 but a 430 over a non-lp car
but then @ ~105k you're in 12c territory and not too far off LHD 458 prices

[dang2407]

All depends the criteria that are important to you. Here is a list of a few I thought of:
1) Sound
2) Engine power
3) Top speed
4) Acceleration
5) Gadgets
6) Technical advancement
7) Cornering ability
8) Rawness
9) Smoothness
10) Looks (subjective!)
11) Maintenance costs

Personally speaking, points 1 and 8 are of the highest priority. Therefore a 12C/650S or 458 are lower on my list than a 430 or pre-LP/LP, regardless of the money. So, for the record, I chose an LP550-2 Manual...

[Slickhillsy]

dang2407 said:

All depends the criteria that are important to you. Here is a list of a few I thought of:
1) Sound
2) Engine power
3) Top speed
4) Acceleration
5) Gadgets
6) Technical advancement
7) Cornering ability
8) Rawness
9) Smoothness
10) Looks (subjective!)
11) Maintenance costs

Personally speaking, points 1 and 8 are of the highest priority. Therefore a 12C/650S or 458 are lower on my list than a 430 or pre-LP/LP, regardless of the money. So, for the record, I chose an LP550-2 Manual...

Priority 1 and 8 - you mad fool, should have bought a Scud then! - If you had you'd have got 2,3,4,6,7,10 for free!!!!

[dang2407]

Slickhillsy said:

Priority 1 and 8 - you mad fool, should have bought a Scud then! - If you had you'd have got 2,3,4,6,7,10 for free!!!!

Damn, you are right..... but I didn't mention

12) Must be able to imitiate engine noise with a beercan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gpH-WHSnL8

[Slickhillsy]

dang2407 said:

Slickhillsy said:

Priority 1 and 8 - you mad fool, should have bought a Scud then! - If you had you'd have got 2,3,4,6,7,10 for free!!!!

Damn, you are right..... but I didn't mention

12) Must be able to imitiate engine noise with a beercan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gpH-WHSnL8

Got to admit them is some skills!! lol

However Lambo's allways hit the great noise button!

Edited by Slickhillsy on Friday 2nd October 13:36

[lostinvegas]

Thank you all for the replies.

At the moment I am thinking Lambo but I will probably change my mind lots of times before I actually buy.

On the running costs front how do the 2 compare?? are their any nasty surprises. For example I years ago I had to replace the gear box on my Merc CLK 55 AMG due to water leaking into the gearbox oil. A common problem that the specialist I took the car to missed and it cost about 5k to put right. I always have a contingency fund for such things but want to know how big it needs to be. Also how much to budget for yearly maintenance. (The wife might not be happy as it means she can't buy as many shoes

I know with these sorts of cars you need a decent fund of money every year to service and maintain them. I don't intend on doing loads of miles, just weekend fun and the odd european road trip.