Classic/Supercars Not Selling, Prices No Longer Rising.

Classic/Supercars Not Selling, Prices No Longer Rising.

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9six4

1,357 posts

173 months

Sunday 19th June 2016
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ironictwist said:
yes Ain't that the truth...One of my best memories is being 2hrs outside of Tokyo viewing an offmarket collector owned 365BB RHD, going for a test drive with the mechanic that's serviced the car all it's life in JP, nothing quite like an evening hoon in a BB through Japanese countryside & a mechanic who knows the car inside out.

Couldn't speak a word of english...But thumbs ups, OK & Faster Faster is all you need to know sometimes hehe

Will nudge you when I'm next there Andy as I should be there for a more extended period in the coming months! Always good to meet other PH'ers thumbup

Edited by ironictwist on Saturday 18th June 15:23
Sounds fantastic...yes, look me up when you're next over.

EpsomJames

790 posts

246 months

Sunday 19th June 2016
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simonr100 said:
EpsomJames said:
What fall? I'm not seeing any evidence of this in classic and supercar market.

Will be talking to owner of one of the biggest supercar garages tomorrow (as friend rather than client) so will ask him what he's seeing.
Go back to the start of the thread and read...... Keep an eye on adverts and see reductions and cars that haven't sold for many months.
Done that and prices not falling yet.

simonr100

640 posts

117 months

Sunday 19th June 2016
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Well I am seeing plenty of falls and lots of stock that hasn't sold in many months.

DevonPaul

1,187 posts

137 months

Sunday 19th June 2016
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simonr100 said:
Well I am seeing plenty of falls and lots of stock that hasn't sold in many months.
I do wonder if people are being over optimistic, then being more realistic when the market doesn't catch up.

I saw a 911 GT3RS last week that was available "at the right price" I said "you mean £30k more than it is worth" and the lad smiled and said "he wants £180k for it".

It has about 8k on the clock, but there is a lower mileage one available locally at a dealer for £10k less and another in Kent for £20k less.

Bacchus

601 posts

284 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Take this F355, another dealer (also from the Netherlands) tried to sell the car for many month... twice they adjusted the price, it was last advertised for 80k€... new dealer asks 30k€ more!

https://www.autoscout24.com/classified-detail/deta...

no comment!



simonr100

640 posts

117 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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Dealers who operate on SOR and have space will take a car in the hope they will sell - better to have a full showroom.

voicey

2,453 posts

187 months

Monday 20th June 2016
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If anyone's at BCA Blackbushe on Wednesday then I'd be interested to know what the LHD 360 sells for. It belonged to a client who sold it to WBAC for what I thought was strong money...

Dave R D

185 posts

135 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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Looking at estimate prices of cars at Coys auction on 2nd July.
Seem to be much lower then I have seen for a long time.

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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Yup - some of those lots could be regarded as sensibly estimated.

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st June 2016
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I went through the Coys catalogue - a lot of these cars are LHD, VAT not paid...and have been floating around for sale for quite a while (Kahn ferraris from the Middle East, Japanese imports, etc.)

bryn_p

465 posts

229 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Ferruccio said:
Yup - some of those lots could be regarded as sensibly estimated.
And some not so - the integrale Evo 1 seems to be estimated at about double it's value!

bryn_p

465 posts

229 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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911Thrasher said:
I went through the Coys catalogue - a lot of these cars are LHD, VAT not paid...and have been floating around for sale for quite a while (Kahn ferraris from the Middle East, Japanese imports, etc.)
This is a bit odd too. I suspect that VAT has actually been paid (and reclaimed) but they are selling the cars 'plus VAT' to make the price look more attractive on the face of it as they will have to pay VAT on the full sale price anyway.

Edited by bryn_p on Wednesday 22 June 10:53

cgt2

7,100 posts

188 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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911Thrasher said:
I went through the Coys catalogue - a lot of these cars are LHD, VAT not paid...and have been floating around for sale for quite a while (Kahn ferraris from the Middle East, Japanese imports, etc.)
Surely if the cars are in the UK then VAT has to be paid within a certain period of the vehicles entering the UK? It doesn't add up.

Kahn has had some of his LHD Ferraris on sale for nearly two years.

AMG Merc

11,954 posts

253 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Interesting point about VAT being quoted - I think it may have something to do with them not being UK registered yet but not too sure.

bryn_p

465 posts

229 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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AMG Merc said:
Interesting point about VAT being quoted - I think it may have something to do with them not being UK registered yet but not too sure.
As has been said directly above, the VAT will almost certainly have had to have been paid by now. It is payable more or less immediately upon the cars entering the UK. If it hasn't been paid for any reason, it's likely to cause all sorts of problems when it comes to registering the cars in the UK.

TP321

1,478 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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AMG Merc said:
Interesting point about VAT being quoted - I think it may have something to do with them not being UK registered yet but not too sure.
..someone will sooner or later make a very expensive mistake with this VAT nonsense ....hopefully a Brexit will fix this one biggrin

cgt2

7,100 posts

188 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Ouch. Things are going to nosedive now.

TP321

1,478 posts

198 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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cgt2 said:
Ouch. Things are going to nosedive now.
About time....time to pick up a bargain I hope

Durzel

12,270 posts

168 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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cgt2 said:
Ouch. Things are going to nosedive now.
Offset by less cheap Euro-sourced supercars coming over? I guess that's just scratching the surface though in the grand scheme of things.

ferdi p

1,519 posts

172 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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TP321 said:
cgt2 said:
Ouch. Things are going to nosedive now.
About time....time to pick up a bargain I hope
Good luck with that...

Catching a falling knife is unbelievably difficult!!