Supercar As An Investment

Supercar As An Investment

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developer

Original Poster:

265 posts

157 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Can you buy a supercar and be guaranteed to make a few quid with a sell on?

If so, what car and how long would you have to keep it?

I realise this is a bit broad, but that's what forums are about.

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

163 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Guaranteed.

No.

Jules360

1,949 posts

202 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Are you serious ? There is no such thing as a guaranteed investment, cars or otherwise.

Unless of course it's has a carbon tub that the world is waking up to. He'll be along later to explain.

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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^ smile

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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You can mostly guarantee depreciation.

thegreenhell

15,325 posts

219 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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The car you're looking for is a Delorean, with the optional Doc Brown mods. Set the dials to T-2 years, get it up to 88 mph, and hang on tight.

developer

Original Poster:

265 posts

157 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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What got me thinkng were the couple of Mercedes McLaren SLR's at Amari - I would have thought, over time, that they would appreciate.

Look at what basic (in their day) cars a fetching now - Mk1 Mini and Escorts, for example.

Camlet

1,132 posts

149 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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developer said:
What got me thinkng were the couple of Mercedes McLaren SLR's at Amari - I would have thought, over time, that they would appreciate.

Look at what basic (in their day) cars a fetching now - Mk1 Mini and Escorts, for example.
Your question is fair. I would classify three segments.

1. The closest to a guarantee.

If you've been invited by an official dealer to buy a prized LE car (for example a 911R, LaFA or TDF). Then you've IMO a 95%+ chance of a real return (assuming the market doesn't slide back to pre 2012 days).

2. Timeless classics.

A good non cat no adj F40 was c 400K in 2011. It's now c 800K. The price could always fall back but an F40 will always be an F40. In good condition with a strong service history, it'll always be prized and with the parts of the US now accepting Eurospec cars, the global market is real.

3. Buy only for love.

The last segment contains countless examples. I would put the SLR in this group. Another example is the Dino. It's a sweet looking car but nothing special to drive and many were made. The prices on the Dino went nuts post 2012 along with just about everything else. Dealers were enjoying taking hard earned cash from novice buyers looking at investment potential, or worse encouraging finance deals. As an investment group this segment is super fragile and I would avoid like a plague on that basis alone. But if a car has always been a dream and one can afford to shrug off a 50-70% decline if st happens, then buy for love. Life is short.


Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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After the crash in car prices in 1989, it took nearly 20 years for some of those cars to retrace their previous highs...........
It was a good time to buy for love.

simonr100

640 posts

117 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Very few cars seem cheap now, that time has long since passed, buy a car to enjoy and look for something that shouldn't lose money. I went through this decision earlier in the year and decided that a 12c spider was the best value for money, it shouldn't lose anything and should hopefully continue to appreciate whilst being amazingly quick, having the best paint and manufacturing quality of the regular supercars.

dang2407

496 posts

108 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Careful because in approx 10-15 years electric and autonomous cars will rule the roads. Our stone-age relics will be taxed into oblivion. Therefore anything that takes more than a few years to mature will not.


RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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The boat has sailed on a lot of these cars. ( Regular 7 year old 25,000 mile Ferrari F430's at £100k +, 458 Speciale at £100k over list WTF ?!) Talk about some crazy prices

If you are to find a wee nugget you need to look outside of the box and find something that's rarer and currently undervalued

There are 1 or 2 opportunities out there but you need to have vision and think longer term and not just follow the sheep.

Apart from that I'm sworn to secrecy from now on whistle


JamesNotJim

755 posts

186 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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Yes it can be done. BUT you have to buy the correct cars, at the right price.
A family friend owns a 360 that Michael Schumacher was given but never wanted. Worth a lot more now than when it was sold to him. He also owned one of David Beckhams Bentleys, again bought for a lot less than he sold it for.
He buys all these as investments, but also has the capital to buy when these cars come up.

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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650S.

There's a bloke who lurks on these boards who's secretly told me they will be worth 20 million this time next year, I'm laughing all the way to the bank.

He doesn't like to talk about it though.

smile

(Happy Christmas RL!)

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Monday 26th December 2016
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br d said:
650S.

There's a bloke who lurks on these boards who's secretly told me they will be worth 20 million this time next year, I'm laughing all the way to the bank.

He doesn't like to talk about it though.

smile

(Happy Christmas RL!)
rofl

Shhhhhhhhhush !

It wasn't quite £20m in 1 year but you're close.
Now keep it to yourself and come back and tell me in 20 million years its not even worth a £1 and I will eat my own words.

As the savvy ones lets promise to keep it to ourselves in 2017 whilst other feast on humble pie

lambo_xx

2,199 posts

197 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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developer said:
What got me thinkng were the couple of Mercedes McLaren SLR's at Amari - I would have thought, over time, that they would appreciate.

Look at what basic (in their day) cars a fetching now - Mk1 Mini and Escorts, for example.
Amari? Oh I would run. Not walk!

z4RRSchris

11,278 posts

179 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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if you manage to get on a LE list then you might be able to make a few quid, but the depreciation on the normal models you would have had to have bought direct to get on the list will most likely outweigh any profit made.

Camlet

1,132 posts

149 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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z4RRSchris said:
if you manage to get on a LE list then you might be able to make a few quid, but the depreciation on the normal models you would have had to have bought direct to get on the list will most likely outweigh any profit made.
It's much more a matter of time and commitment. If one is prepared to play the long game and commit to (say) Ferrari the LE reward is significant. It took me 11 years commitment to be offered my first LE.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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Camlet said:
It's much more a matter of time and commitment. If one is prepared to play the long game and commit to (say) Ferrari the LE reward is significant. It took me 11 years commitment to be offered my first LE.
Interesting, how many new cars did you order over that time?

Shazbat

170 posts

137 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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developer said:
Can you buy a supercar and be guaranteed to make a few quid with a sell on?

If so, what car and how long would you have to keep it?

I realise this is a bit broad, but that's what forums are about.
Were you born yesterday ?