GLASS CERAMIC / NANO COATED PAINTWORK
Discussion
Agreed, what a fantastic looking car and beautiful combination, extremely tasteful. Another strong recommendation for ppf. I think perhaps a bit like you I was very sceptical about films. My current car is the first I have had with ppf and I wouldn't go back. It's the self healing type and it really does work well. I bought the car used, from the original dealer and as the sales person said, it makes his job easier to buy back in at a better price because he knows the work will not be required. You're probably not thinking about selling of course but perhaps for the future.
Of course another advantage is that you could enjoy a few thousand more miles per year in it. Enjoy in good health, what a lovely car to own. Cheers.
Of course another advantage is that you could enjoy a few thousand more miles per year in it. Enjoy in good health, what a lovely car to own. Cheers.
What a lovely car. I would get the front end and sills covered. Ferrari doesnt have the hardest paint and to be fair, they are shocking when new. How they get signed off at the factory and dealership is beyond me. I would say to remove the coating by machine polishing it first before the film goes on.
I would say that every new car, especially Ferrari, Mclaren etc, need a good couple of days to get the paintwork in good order and then to keep it looking that way, the best thing is ppf or a combination of ppf and something like a Gtechniq crystal serum or something similar.
A coating will always provide more protection than a wax or a liquid polish, but you still need to carefully wash the car.
I would say that every new car, especially Ferrari, Mclaren etc, need a good couple of days to get the paintwork in good order and then to keep it looking that way, the best thing is ppf or a combination of ppf and something like a Gtechniq crystal serum or something similar.
A coating will always provide more protection than a wax or a liquid polish, but you still need to carefully wash the car.
Nice car. Everyone loves a stripe.
If you do go down the PPF route, make sure it is fitted properly and there is good aftersales support. The stuff can be notoriously fickle. Like a wrap, if the film is understuck, it will peel off in the corners and look bad. If it is overstuck, it will damage the paint when eventually peeled off.
If you do go down the PPF route, make sure it is fitted properly and there is good aftersales support. The stuff can be notoriously fickle. Like a wrap, if the film is understuck, it will peel off in the corners and look bad. If it is overstuck, it will damage the paint when eventually peeled off.
Yipper said:
Nice car. Everyone loves a stripe.
If you do go down the PPF route, make sure it is fitted properly and there is good aftersales support. The stuff can be notoriously fickle. Like a wrap, if the film is understuck, it will peel off in the corners and look bad. If it is overstuck, it will damage the paint when eventually peeled off.
Anyone wanting the best designed and installed ppf, they should go direct to paintshield.If you do go down the PPF route, make sure it is fitted properly and there is good aftersales support. The stuff can be notoriously fickle. Like a wrap, if the film is understuck, it will peel off in the corners and look bad. If it is overstuck, it will damage the paint when eventually peeled off.
100 IAN said:
Just found out the car has been coated in Opti coat Pro and it does look nice.
As it'll only do a couple k miles a year, and mostly in the summer, I've pretty much decided not to go to the trouble of removing the coating in order to PPF it.
Fingers crossed I don't pick up too many stone chips...wish me luck!
Awesome looking car! Definitely get the front at least PPF'ed. A good PPF design for this car would be both wings as one piece and with all the edges wrapped, so you can't see the film. It's quite tricky to install parts of this size very well, so many cut corners and have a join in the middle. If installed well and as one piece, the new generation films can be 100% invisible. As it'll only do a couple k miles a year, and mostly in the summer, I've pretty much decided not to go to the trouble of removing the coating in order to PPF it.
Fingers crossed I don't pick up too many stone chips...wish me luck!
Re the coating on the car - I would remove it prior to PPF installation as there can be adhesion problems, highly unlikely for a coating that's over a year old, but for fresh installs it's very common for the film to start peeling,
I wouldn't advise to apply a ceramic coating over PPF, as the PPF is a flexible surface, where's the ceramic coating(s) is supposed to be bad-ass-hard and will shatter if a stone hits it... You have to apply something on top of the film tho, at least a good QD and often is a must!
paddy328 said:
Yipper said:
Nice car. Everyone loves a stripe.
If you do go down the PPF route, make sure it is fitted properly and there is good aftersales support. The stuff can be notoriously fickle. Like a wrap, if the film is understuck, it will peel off in the corners and look bad. If it is overstuck, it will damage the paint when eventually peeled off.
Anyone wanting the best designed and installed ppf, they should go direct to paintshield.If you do go down the PPF route, make sure it is fitted properly and there is good aftersales support. The stuff can be notoriously fickle. Like a wrap, if the film is understuck, it will peel off in the corners and look bad. If it is overstuck, it will damage the paint when eventually peeled off.
Aftersales support is a very good point, being armed with the right info to look after the film is important as is the option to call and ask questions should they arise.
Be wary of companies selling the benefits of the film on the back of the manufacturers warranty, you're told its 7 or 10 years but the film manufacturers themselves pretty much don't accept any warranty claims much beyond the installation: if the film itself has issue it will be apparent at installation, issues that arise later will be down to workmanship or aftercare. Use a company that puts their own warranty on it that way you know should you have an issue you're talking directly to a decision maker.
Paintshield are probably the longest serving PPF installers around, but the market now has several quality players so shop around and ask lots of questions would be my advice!
paddy328 said:
Yipper said:
Nice car. Everyone loves a stripe.
If you do go down the PPF route, make sure it is fitted properly and there is good aftersales support. The stuff can be notoriously fickle. Like a wrap, if the film is understuck, it will peel off in the corners and look bad. If it is overstuck, it will damage the paint when eventually peeled off.
Anyone wanting the best designed and installed ppf, they should go direct to paintshield.If you do go down the PPF route, make sure it is fitted properly and there is good aftersales support. The stuff can be notoriously fickle. Like a wrap, if the film is understuck, it will peel off in the corners and look bad. If it is overstuck, it will damage the paint when eventually peeled off.
You can apply sealants to ppf, but not the glass coat ones, as the film needs to be flexible and the glass/ceramic coating stop this. Getting crystal serum is good on film and as is exo, but not C1. The safest bet is to wax it or use a spray sealant if anyone is unsure what to use, but they won't last as long.
Anyone thinking of going down the PPF route would be wise to read this cautionary tale from recent days...
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.p...
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.p...
GIven how much trade there seems to be in doing paint correction on brand new cars, supercars included, the obvious takeaway from that is that PPF was applied to the paintwork as it was delivered from the factory rather than applied after it had been detailed.
I've yet to see any brand new car that doesn't benefit from an immediate paint correction. There simply isn't any economic value in spending a week+ detailing every car that comes off the production line, or at least the manufacturers don't feel their owners care enough.
Seems like a bit of a non-story to me. My limited knowledge of PPF tells me that, like painting, prep is 90% of the job. Hell, that thread proves that.
I've yet to see any brand new car that doesn't benefit from an immediate paint correction. There simply isn't any economic value in spending a week+ detailing every car that comes off the production line, or at least the manufacturers don't feel their owners care enough.
Seems like a bit of a non-story to me. My limited knowledge of PPF tells me that, like painting, prep is 90% of the job. Hell, that thread proves that.
Edited by Durzel on Thursday 6th July 11:51
Pointless correcting micro swirls before applying ppf as it just totally masks them, people are wasting there money doing it.
Swirl wise , there is no difference visibly between a perfectly corrected panel and one that had minor swirls on it after the ppf has been applied, I had it demonstrated to me as i wouldn't believe it was the case until i physically saw it.
No ppf always looks better though and detail away on that for a perfect look, the new ceramic coatings are getting very good now at scratch resistance, unfortunately they don't stop the chips or the muppets who seem to like sitting on cars for pictures, so its a bit of a dilemma.
Swirl wise , there is no difference visibly between a perfectly corrected panel and one that had minor swirls on it after the ppf has been applied, I had it demonstrated to me as i wouldn't believe it was the case until i physically saw it.
No ppf always looks better though and detail away on that for a perfect look, the new ceramic coatings are getting very good now at scratch resistance, unfortunately they don't stop the chips or the muppets who seem to like sitting on cars for pictures, so its a bit of a dilemma.
Here's some pics of mine at Sytner after being fully detailed/paint corrected by Emerald Detailing, and then front end PPF fitted by Paintshield (both of which were great by the way, but far from the cheapest). GTECHNIQ Crystal Serum Ceramic was then applied afterwards by the detailer.
Now, I may be biased but it did seem to gleam more than the cars it was sat alongside...but even the Sytner Alpina chaps said they could notice a big difference after the detailing.
I don't dare wash it myself now, but get it kept in shape by a local detailer once every 6-8 weeks. When I collect it, it really does look as good as the day I first collected it...so I'm now a definite advocate of the ceramic coating.
Now, I may be biased but it did seem to gleam more than the cars it was sat alongside...but even the Sytner Alpina chaps said they could notice a big difference after the detailing.
I don't dare wash it myself now, but get it kept in shape by a local detailer once every 6-8 weeks. When I collect it, it really does look as good as the day I first collected it...so I'm now a definite advocate of the ceramic coating.
I have a 50/50 of a panel coated in CQUK that I did a while ago somewhere, there was a definite level of "darkening" done by the coating.
You'll be fine to wash it yourself, invest in 2 buckets, 2 grit guards and a decent wash mitt and drying towel.. KLiN towels and the Halfords double sided lambswool mitt is good.
Wouldn't personally bother paying someone else 50-60 quid a time to wash your car.
You'll be fine to wash it yourself, invest in 2 buckets, 2 grit guards and a decent wash mitt and drying towel.. KLiN towels and the Halfords double sided lambswool mitt is good.
Wouldn't personally bother paying someone else 50-60 quid a time to wash your car.
I'm only a weekend warrior when it comes to detailing but I enjoy keeping my car in good shape but it is hard when the paint is soft from the factory.
I have my car coated in a SIO2 sealant and it definitely makes a difference in the glossiness / flake on the paint and keeps swirls and damage from bird poo at bay for longer.
Although not a supercar this is a photo I took when I was applying the coating to my car. Left side is coated, right side uncoated. You can clearly see the darkening of the paint.
I have my car coated in a SIO2 sealant and it definitely makes a difference in the glossiness / flake on the paint and keeps swirls and damage from bird poo at bay for longer.
Although not a supercar this is a photo I took when I was applying the coating to my car. Left side is coated, right side uncoated. You can clearly see the darkening of the paint.
Edited by ashleyman on Thursday 6th July 13:03
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