GLASS CERAMIC / NANO COATED PAINTWORK

GLASS CERAMIC / NANO COATED PAINTWORK

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Durzel

12,273 posts

169 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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Burnham said:
Here's some pics of mine at Sytner after being fully detailed/paint corrected by Emerald Detailing, and then front end PPF fitted by Paintshield (both of which were great by the way, but far from the cheapest). GTECHNIQ Crystal Serum Ceramic was then applied afterwards by the detailer.

Now, I may be biased but it did seem to gleam more than the cars it was sat alongside...but even the Sytner Alpina chaps said they could notice a big difference after the detailing.

I don't dare wash it myself now, but get it kept in shape by a local detailer once every 6-8 weeks. When I collect it, it really does look as good as the day I first collected it...so I'm now a definite advocate of the ceramic coating.
Really? As long as you do the whole pre-wash & two-bucket thing I can't see what damage you'd do that couldn't be undone by the detailer if it came to it.

Sounds like a very expensive way of doing things if you ask me, surely a big part of detailing is that it makes it much easier to clean yourself afterwards?

Burnham

3,668 posts

260 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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Durzel said:
Burnham said:
Here's some pics of mine at Sytner after being fully detailed/paint corrected by Emerald Detailing, and then front end PPF fitted by Paintshield (both of which were great by the way, but far from the cheapest). GTECHNIQ Crystal Serum Ceramic was then applied afterwards by the detailer.

Now, I may be biased but it did seem to gleam more than the cars it was sat alongside...but even the Sytner Alpina chaps said they could notice a big difference after the detailing.

I don't dare wash it myself now, but get it kept in shape by a local detailer once every 6-8 weeks. When I collect it, it really does look as good as the day I first collected it...so I'm now a definite advocate of the ceramic coating.
Really? As long as you do the whole pre-wash & two-bucket thing I can't see what damage you'd do that couldn't be undone by the detailer if it came to it.

Sounds like a very expensive way of doing things if you ask me, surely a big part of detailing is that it makes it much easier to clean yourself afterwards?
Yeah, I'm paranoid of scratching it....but as xjay1337 said above I should probably invest in some buckets and a snow foamer too. I'm just reaaally lazy too.

dang2407

496 posts

109 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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Detailing to remove scratch can only work by removinge paint - there is no other way. Paint layer has a finite thickness so after too many detailing sessions, the paint will wear away to the primer.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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dang2407 said:
Detailing to remove scratch can only work by removinge paint - there is no other way. Paint layer has a finite thickness so after too many detailing sessions, the paint will wear away to the primer.
Yes, but the amount is sometimes so small... average car at 110 microns of paint will have approx 25-30 microns. A heavy correction (done correctly) will remove maybe 3-5, a car may only need this once.
Follow up enhancements may only take 1-2 microns off.7

Durzel

12,273 posts

169 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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Burnham said:
Yeah, I'm paranoid of scratching it....but as xjay1337 said above I should probably invest in some buckets and a snow foamer too. I'm just reaaally lazy too.
laugh

Ha! The truth is revealed!

To be honest I'm much the same, although since getting the whole snow-foam/jetwash she-bang it intuitively feels like less work.

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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xjay1337 said:
dang2407 said:
Detailing to remove scratch can only work by removinge paint - there is no other way. Paint layer has a finite thickness so after too many detailing sessions, the paint will wear away to the primer.
Yes, but the amount is sometimes so small... average car at 110 microns of paint will have approx 25-30 microns. A heavy correction (done correctly) will remove maybe 3-5, a car may only need this once.
Follow up enhancements may only take 1-2 microns off.7
It is not a problem (normally) for cars under 10 years old. But, for classics, it can be an challenge. Years of rubbing off 1-10 microns every few months (as some people do) can eventually add up. Saw a 2004 Gallardo recently that was down to <20 microns in places on the roof and bonnet. Someone had been a bit enthusiastic with the old scrubber and polish.

ashleyman

6,987 posts

100 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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Yipper said:
xjay1337 said:
dang2407 said:
Detailing to remove scratch can only work by removinge paint - there is no other way. Paint layer has a finite thickness so after too many detailing sessions, the paint will wear away to the primer.
Yes, but the amount is sometimes so small... average car at 110 microns of paint will have approx 25-30 microns. A heavy correction (done correctly) will remove maybe 3-5, a car may only need this once.
Follow up enhancements may only take 1-2 microns off.7
It is not a problem (normally) for cars under 10 years old. But, for classics, it can be an challenge. Years of rubbing off 1-10 microns every few months (as some people do) can eventually add up. Saw a 2004 Gallardo recently that was down to <20 microns in places on the roof and bonnet. Someone had been a bit enthusiastic with the old scrubber and polish.
That's another benefit of film. Rub off your microns to get the paint perfect asap. Then protect in film and seal with a sealant. Then in 5 years when the film needs replacing you're not polishing off another 5 microns to get the paint perfect again as the film took the damage leaving the paint nice underneath.

Superleg48

1,524 posts

134 months

Thursday 6th July 2017
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I had my LP570 fully reworked. Old PPF was removed, paint correction, and new PPF applied. Then fully detailed with Kamikaze Enrei applied at the end. Wheels, Calipers and Tyres were treated and all carbon treated inside and out. Was done by Offset Detailing in Essex and a bloody good job it was too. My car is featured on the website with a full rundown of the whole process including a short time lapse video. It is the yellow one.

Now, I simply use Auto Glym Rapid Detailer to remove dead bugs, then jet wash, snow foam and rinse. Dried off off carefully with a proper drying cloth, not in circular motions but linear motions and voila! Good as the day it was done. Will have a maintenance session every 12 months.

No buckets required. Snow Foam is astonishingly effective, plus never let it get really dirty anyway.