£100k budget trackday / weekend car

[SFTWend]

FWIW said:

If you meant EVORA 430, you’re absolutely right. Fits the bill perfectly.

I'm surprised Evora never gets mentioned. Has GT comforts that the Exige lacks but still drives like a Lotus.

Surely this is a good compromise in meeting the OPs original requirements of one car for both tasks. Worth considering alongside GT4.

[200Plus Club]

SFTWend said:

FWIW said:

If you meant EVORA 430, you’re absolutely right. Fits the bill perfectly.

I'm surprised Evora never gets mentioned. Has GT comforts that the Exige lacks but still drives like a Lotus.

Surely this is a good compromise in meeting the OPs original requirements of one car for both tasks. Worth considering alongside GT4.

Probably because it's an ugly mother of a car neither fish nor fowl.

[_Leg_]

200Plus Club said:

SFTWend said:

FWIW said:

If you meant EVORA 430, you’re absolutely right. Fits the bill perfectly.

I'm surprised Evora never gets mentioned. Has GT comforts that the Exige lacks but still drives like a Lotus.

Surely this is a good compromise in meeting the OPs original requirements of one car for both tasks. Worth considering alongside GT4.

Probably because it's an ugly mother of a car neither fish nor fowl.

I'm a member of the North Yorkshire Lotus Owners Club and attend many Lotus on Track days. The Evora isnt very popular in any guise, few turn up to club meets, runs out or road trips and even fewer are seen on track. It hadn't occurred to me until I read this thread but now you mention it I realised I don't see many.

[FWIW]

_Leg_ said:

200Plus Club said:

SFTWend said:

FWIW said:

If you meant EVORA 430, you’re absolutely right. Fits the bill perfectly.

I'm surprised Evora never gets mentioned. Has GT comforts that the Exige lacks but still drives like a Lotus.

Surely this is a good compromise in meeting the OPs original requirements of one car for both tasks. Worth considering alongside GT4.

Probably because it's an ugly mother of a car neither fish nor fowl.

I'm a member of the North Yorkshire Lotus Owners Club and attend many Lotus on Track days. The Evora isnt very popular in any guise, few turn up to club meets, runs out or road trips and even fewer are seen on track. It hadn't occurred to me until I read this thread but now you mention it I realised I don't see many.

I used my evora on numerous LoT days. It’s astonishingly brilliant on track, despite being a standard(ish) NA. Very comfortable to drive to southern France and great fun on track once there.

Edited by FWIW on Wednesday 7th February 08:12

[_Leg_]

FWIW said:

_Leg_ said:

200Plus Club said:

SFTWend said:

FWIW said:

If you meant EVORA 430, you’re absolutely right. Fits the bill perfectly.

I'm surprised Evora never gets mentioned. Has GT comforts that the Exige lacks but still drives like a Lotus.

Surely this is a good compromise in meeting the OPs original requirements of one car for both tasks. Worth considering alongside GT4.

Probably because it's an ugly mother of a car neither fish nor fowl.

I'm a member of the North Yorkshire Lotus Owners Club and attend many Lotus on Track days. The Evora isnt very popular in any guise, few turn up to club meets, runs out or road trips and even fewer are seen on track. It hadn't occurred to me until I read this thread but now you mention it I realised I don't see many.

I used my evora on numerous LoT days. It’s astonishingly brilliant on track, despite being a standard(ish) NA. Very comfortable to drive to southern France and great fun on track once their.

Given you have a supercharged VX220 why on earth do you take your NA Evora on track?

[FWIW]

_Leg_ said:

Given you have a supercharged VX220 why on earth do you take your NA Evora on track?

Firstly, why on earth not!?
Secondly, I had some problems with the VX at the time.
Thirdly, the Evora was much more pleasant to drive long distance in 40’C+ heat

[px1980]

Ok say I was considering an Exige.
What sort of ballpark difference in running costs vs 718 GT4 or GTS are we talking about? Say assuming 8x/year track days.

Edited by px1980 on Friday 25th December 16:03

[Rivarama]

I might have missed something in that thread, but why was there no mention of a Porsche GT3? Clearly a mighty track weapon?
£100k def buys you a solid 997.2 GT3 or if you’re not into manual a 991.1 GT3
You can’t go wrong with that

[Sinkygolf]

As Rivarama said I am surprised no one had mentioned a 991.1 GT3. You can pick up some really nice examples for around your price point and slightly less.

This also caught my attention last week with some quite extensive mods which might be a half way point between fast road and track and you would save yourself 45k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202012167...

[cayman-black]

Rivarama said:

I might have missed something in that thread, but why was there no mention of a Porsche GT3? Clearly a mighty track weapon?
£100k def buys you a solid 997.2 GT3 or if you’re not into manual a 991.1 GT3
You can’t go wrong with that

Until the engine explodes that is. I would be petrified of pushing 991.1GT3 and to all those that say well it is covered by Porsche (for now), i still would not want the aggravation of it all.

[bobbysmithy]

_Leg_ said:

For well within your budget....Exige 350 Sport, Komotec 460 upgrade, Nitron 3 way suspension, long range tank, uprated brakes, forged alloys with ZZRs/Avon wets/set of road wheels and tyres, harnesses, gearbox cooler, dry sump, removable steering wheel with alcantara track and leather road wheels, AiM2 dash, shift lights and bullet cam, big carbon aero. Full PPF from new plus vinyl wrap yellow.

1100kgs, 460bhp, 480nm, astonishing handling and well behaved on the road.

Mine spends most of it's time on track tbh as I have other stuff for the road but it's been round Europe and is great on the road too.

Absolute weapon.

Edited by _Leg_ on Tuesday 22 December 22:02

Absolutely fantastic machine and id love it but would still have a caterham(420r with sadev) for most tracks due to lightness/playfulness of them. Ideally, id have both. It's not gonna happen tho.

[bobbysmithy]

Sinkygolf said:

As Rivarama said I am surprised no one had mentioned a 991.1 GT3. You can pick up some really nice examples for around your price point and slightly less.

This also caught my attention last week with some quite extensive mods which might be a half way point between fast road and track and you would save yourself 45k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202012167...

That's a cool car. Of course he could just get an MX5 and save 99k

[px1980]

Sinkygolf said:

This also caught my attention last week with some quite extensive mods which might be a half way point between fast road and track and you would save yourself 45k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202012167...

Yeah I did think about M2 Competition or CS briefly. Then I realised CS is ~£80k new, v close to GT4 and I’d rather have the porsche when choosing between these 2. I didn’t realise Competition was this much cheaper (or possibly depreciated quicker - in any case, there’s no way I could have either a GT4 or 718 GTS for anything close to £57k). So this could now be an interesting alternative.

But with this car, the 2 main issues with GT4 in my scenario, i.e. (1) front splitter which will scrape on ramps/inclines (2) high weight which would mean on track, it’ll be expensive to run - those still apply, would you not agree?

[bobbysmithy]

px1980 said:

Yeah I did think about M2 Competition or CS briefly. Then I realised CS is ~£80k new, v close to GT4 and I’d rather have the porsche when choosing between these 2. I didn’t realise Competition was this much cheaper (or possibly depreciated quicker - in any case, there’s no way I could have either a GT4 or 718 GTS for anything close to £57k). So this could now be an interesting alternative.

But with this car, the 2 main issues with GT4 in my scenario, i.e. (1) front splitter which will scrape on ramps/inclines (2) high weight which would mean on track, it’ll be expensive to run - those still apply, would you not agree?

All goes back to volume of use and trackdays - how many are you planning on doing PA? <5, <10, 15-20?

[px1980]

bobbysmithy said:

All goes back to volume of use and trackdays - how many are you planning on doing PA? <5, <10, 15-20?

More than 5, less than 10. Say 8 annually (I’m guessing a bit here). How much should I expect to spend on tyres, brake pads, servicing of M2/ GT4/ Exige? With each option, the car would be used 50% time travk, 50% time road, but I think it’s safe to assume 95% of wear would be on track... Insurance is expensive but from the quotes I saw there’s v little difference in premiums for these 3 cars

Edited by px1980 on Saturday 26th December 09:41

[bobbysmithy]

px1980 said:

More than 5, less than 10. Say 8 annually (I’m guessing a bit here). How much should I expect to spend on tyres, brake pads, servicing of M2/ GT4/ Exige? With each option, the car would be used 50% time travk, 50% time road, but I think it’s safe to assume 95% of wear would be on track...

There are numerous companies who will do the track prep, fuelling at track, transportation of your car. Having done everything: trailer to track, drive lotus to track and use a company the most expensive but also most enjoyable is to have a full blown track car brought to track for you and you turn up in something fun/weekend car. Obviously the lighter the car, the less it will cost on tyres/brakes, i.e. caterham/elise s1/radical/ginetta is gonna cost less.

[Shnozz]

Another vote for an exige.

Although a lot of sense in the suggestion to rent a track car as and when needed and make it someone else’s problem. I switched to renting BatCats whenever I did a track day. Turn up in comfort, climb in the caterhal and let BaT take take of everything down to filling it with fuel.

Even taking into account the modest running costs of an exige, I still think it would be hard to financially beat renting a car as and when required.

[bobbysmithy]

Shnozz said:

Another vote for an exige.

Although a lot of sense in the suggestion to rent a track car as and when needed and make it someone else’s problem. I switched to renting BatCats whenever I did a track day. Turn up in comfort, climb in the caterhal and let BaT take take of everything down to filling it with fuel.

Even taking into account the modest running costs of an exige, I still think it would be hard to financially beat renting a car as and when required.

Yeah, or you own the car and they do all the work too, then you forego the rent of the car and can customize your car how you want it.

[200Plus Club]

Shnozz said:

Another vote for an exige.

Although a lot of sense in the suggestion to rent a track car as and when needed and make it someone else’s problem. I switched to renting BatCats whenever I did a track day. Turn up in comfort, climb in the caterhal and let BaT take take of everything down to filling it with fuel.

Even taking into account the modest running costs of an exige, I still think it would be hard to financially beat renting a car as and when required.

Exactly what I said having had many years of trying various options of road/track/race car mixes.
Having a trailer and car you don't mind bending on track makes trackdays much more enjoyable and relaxing. Having someone bring it to the track of choice ready to go is even sweeter even if a touch more costly for those 5-8 days a year!

[Sinkygolf]

px1980 said:

Sinkygolf said:

This also caught my attention last week with some quite extensive mods which might be a half way point between fast road and track and you would save yourself 45k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202012167...

Yeah I did think about M2 Competition or CS briefly. Then I realised CS is ~£80k new, v close to GT4 and I’d rather have the porsche when choosing between these 2. I didn’t realise Competition was this much cheaper (or possibly depreciated quicker - in any case, there’s no way I could have either a GT4 or 718 GTS for anything close to £57k). So this could now be an interesting alternative.

But with this car, the 2 main issues with GT4 in my scenario, i.e. (1) front splitter which will scrape on ramps/inclines (2) high weight which would mean on track, it’ll be expensive to run - those still apply, would you not agree?

I just threw this in as a curve ball as it’s got some significant mods including brakes, pads and suspension upgrades by a reputable company which would probably stand up to track work over a standard Comp which again would be cheaper. Along with the power upgrade and benefits of being able to drive to the track in comfort I would say this would be quite a potent and fun car.

If you are looking to max out your budget (being slightly biased as I have one which will be going for sale shortly) I would take 991.1 GT3 over a GT4 anyday. Don’t believe the scaremongering ref engine etc....it’s nonsense. Awesome bit of kit.