official P4/5 pic
Discussion
Current issue of Car and Driver (pg 13) Csere's What will be at Pebble Beach in the future?"
"Driveable customs such as Jim Glickenhaus's rebodied Ferrari Enzo, which we featured in our September issue ("The Beast of Turin"
and which made it's debut to the public in a display of show cars leading into the concours, would seem to be a shoe-in for the future. It's exclusive, startling, and beautifully executed, and it has a peerless pedigree. We don't see cars of this ilk frequently, and that rarity will be what makes them the classics of the future.
"Driveable customs such as Jim Glickenhaus's rebodied Ferrari Enzo, which we featured in our September issue ("The Beast of Turin"
and which made it's debut to the public in a display of show cars leading into the concours, would seem to be a shoe-in for the future. It's exclusive, startling, and beautifully executed, and it has a peerless pedigree. We don't see cars of this ilk frequently, and that rarity will be what makes them the classics of the future. 
Evo 098, Gordon Murray:
"How many of our today's cars will be considered classics in, say, 20 or 30 years' time?
One that will be is the brand-new Pininfarina-designed one-off Ferrari P4/5 supercar, based on a Ferrari Enzo. All supercars have presence and a certain "dramatic" look, but not all of them have style. The Enzo is certainly dramatic, but it manages to look very large (it is!) and very disjointed - the lines just don't flow. Panel shut gaps are too big and obvious, the front overhang is just too long, and the whole effect is styling rather than style.
Enter the P4/5 - a truly beautiful, balanced shape. I'm sure Pininfarina will have the "retro" finger pointed at them, but while there's no mistaking its heritage, the style is crisp, fresh and bang up to date. This is not a sycophantic exercise like the Ford GT but very much a new design in its own right. If I was offered the keys to either the Enzo or the P4/5, I know which one I would be driving home."
"How many of our today's cars will be considered classics in, say, 20 or 30 years' time?
One that will be is the brand-new Pininfarina-designed one-off Ferrari P4/5 supercar, based on a Ferrari Enzo. All supercars have presence and a certain "dramatic" look, but not all of them have style. The Enzo is certainly dramatic, but it manages to look very large (it is!) and very disjointed - the lines just don't flow. Panel shut gaps are too big and obvious, the front overhang is just too long, and the whole effect is styling rather than style.
Enter the P4/5 - a truly beautiful, balanced shape. I'm sure Pininfarina will have the "retro" finger pointed at them, but while there's no mistaking its heritage, the style is crisp, fresh and bang up to date. This is not a sycophantic exercise like the Ford GT but very much a new design in its own right. If I was offered the keys to either the Enzo or the P4/5, I know which one I would be driving home."
Napolis said:
Evo 098, Gordon Murray:
"How many of our today's cars will be considered classics in, say, 20 or 30 years' time?
One that will be is the brand-new Pininfarina-designed one-off Ferrari P4/5 supercar, based on a Ferrari Enzo. All supercars have presence and a certain "dramatic" look, but not all of them have style. The Enzo is certainly dramatic, but it manages to look very large (it is!) and very disjointed - the lines just don't flow. Panel shut gaps are too big and obvious, the front overhang is just too long, and the whole effect is styling rather than style.
Enter the P4/5 - a truly beautiful, balanced shape. I'm sure Pininfarina will have the "retro" finger pointed at them, but while there's no mistaking its heritage, the style is crisp, fresh and bang up to date. This is not a sycophantic exercise like the Ford GT but very much a new design in its own right. If I was offered the keys to either the Enzo or the P4/5, I know which one I would be driving home."
"How many of our today's cars will be considered classics in, say, 20 or 30 years' time?
One that will be is the brand-new Pininfarina-designed one-off Ferrari P4/5 supercar, based on a Ferrari Enzo. All supercars have presence and a certain "dramatic" look, but not all of them have style. The Enzo is certainly dramatic, but it manages to look very large (it is!) and very disjointed - the lines just don't flow. Panel shut gaps are too big and obvious, the front overhang is just too long, and the whole effect is styling rather than style.
Enter the P4/5 - a truly beautiful, balanced shape. I'm sure Pininfarina will have the "retro" finger pointed at them, but while there's no mistaking its heritage, the style is crisp, fresh and bang up to date. This is not a sycophantic exercise like the Ford GT but very much a new design in its own right. If I was offered the keys to either the Enzo or the P4/5, I know which one I would be driving home."
Jim. FWIW, I've changed my opinion of your car.
I've 2 friends with Enzos (one black, one red) and they are beautiful under the skin (the engineering details are superb) but the rear three quarter view is terrible. Even in profile I prefer a Murci (predictably).
The P4/5 is growing on me, and that's usually the sign of an enduring design. Good luck to you, Jota.
Edited by crikeymikey on Tuesday 24th October 21:05
IMHO the Ferrari P4 has been the most sensual beautiful car ever. But this Glickenhaus car is the modern derivation. I think it is absolutely superb, best ever perhaps.
What I think is interesting is I bet that when the Enzo is superceded, it will have to be something akin to this design. Interesting American/Italian politics to come methinks! The next Enzo is already shadowed by this 4/5; we'll see how they get round that one.
What I think is interesting is I bet that when the Enzo is superceded, it will have to be something akin to this design. Interesting American/Italian politics to come methinks! The next Enzo is already shadowed by this 4/5; we'll see how they get round that one.
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