Gallardo Clutch... Do you get any warning?
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I've had my G about 6 months now and all has been well so far. I'm getting paranoid about the clutch needing replacing at some point. Every car I see advertised that's similar age and mileage have had a new clutch already. Mines an 06 car with 10.5k miles.
How do you know if it's about to go? Do you get any warning?
How do you know if it's about to go? Do you get any warning?
Yes, you can get a warning of sorts indicating clutch wear by doing the clutch wear test.
All modern Lambos have an anti-stall system in their ECUs to enable the car to creep in traffic without wearing the clutch. This works by adjusting the revs when 1st gear is engaged and the clutch pedal is brought up WITHOUT using the throttle.
The car should not stall, and will move off without hesitation or throttle input.
(The factory advise all techs to drive customers cars in this way, but don't tell customers so that they wear out their clutches, therefore generating part revenue.)
On a new clutch, the car should move off at around 1,500 rpm.
But, and it is important that you do this on a level surface, for every extra 100 rpm needed to get the car moving over 1,500 rpm, this equates to 20% clutch wear.
So a car that needs 1,800 rpm to move off is showing 60% clutch wear.
I hope that this help,
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
All modern Lambos have an anti-stall system in their ECUs to enable the car to creep in traffic without wearing the clutch. This works by adjusting the revs when 1st gear is engaged and the clutch pedal is brought up WITHOUT using the throttle.
The car should not stall, and will move off without hesitation or throttle input.
(The factory advise all techs to drive customers cars in this way, but don't tell customers so that they wear out their clutches, therefore generating part revenue.)
On a new clutch, the car should move off at around 1,500 rpm.
But, and it is important that you do this on a level surface, for every extra 100 rpm needed to get the car moving over 1,500 rpm, this equates to 20% clutch wear.
So a car that needs 1,800 rpm to move off is showing 60% clutch wear.
I hope that this help,
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
Hi Dan
All Dealers and a lot of indies will be able to plug your car in and give you the wear on the clutch. Just ask them for a snap test. It takes about 5 minutes. Generally recommend to change with 25% remaining. There's plenty on here about e-gears but if driven properly, they will last a long time. Just avoid high torque at low/no speeds. Always put the car in neutral if you think you are going to come to a standstill. Easy to do stuff like this will save wear.
GW
All Dealers and a lot of indies will be able to plug your car in and give you the wear on the clutch. Just ask them for a snap test. It takes about 5 minutes. Generally recommend to change with 25% remaining. There's plenty on here about e-gears but if driven properly, they will last a long time. Just avoid high torque at low/no speeds. Always put the car in neutral if you think you are going to come to a standstill. Easy to do stuff like this will save wear.
GW
Stuart Dickinson said:
LamboBrum said:
Just seen a 17000 mile car on original clutch with less than 50% wear.
Don't believe the hype!
The RSC Gallardo is just under 18,000 miles and 40% remaining - it's an EGear...Don't believe the hype!
The tech at Prestige Imports thinks we might set the record!
Agree the issue of clutch life died a long time ago, covered 43K on first clutch and it still had well over 1mm when removed ( i think new clutches have 5.2mm) second clutch covered 20K and now showing 20% worn. Starting to think the thrust bearings will go again before I need another clutch change, new one was noise free for 10K but now makes a little noise
SJ
SJ
Sorry to take this thread off topic a little bit but I hope its alright as it seems the original poster's question has been answered. I was wondering if anybody has looked into putting an uprated clutch in their Gallardo's?? I believe Exedy do one for about 1300quid. Would it last substantially longer than an OEM clutch??
ruttboy said:
Yes, you can get a warning of sorts indicating clutch wear by doing the clutch wear test.
All modern Lambs have an anti-stall system in their ECUs to enable the car to creep in traffic without wearing the clutch. This works by adjusting the revs when ST gear is engaged and the clutch pedal is brought up WITHOUT using the throttle.
The car should not stall, and will move off without hesitation or throttle input.
(The factory advise all techs to drive customers cars in this way, but don't tell customers so that they wear out their clutches, therefore generating part revenue.)
On a new clutch, the car should move off at around 1,500 rpm.
But, and it is important that you do this on a level surface, for every extra 100 rpm needed to get the car moving over 1,500 rpm, this equates to 20% clutch wear.
So a car that needs 1,800 rpm to move off is showing 60% clutch wear.
I hope that this help,
Cheers,
Rutty.
Interesting stuff, not heard that explanation before...and no throttle always provides the smoothest set off. All modern Lambs have an anti-stall system in their ECUs to enable the car to creep in traffic without wearing the clutch. This works by adjusting the revs when ST gear is engaged and the clutch pedal is brought up WITHOUT using the throttle.
The car should not stall, and will move off without hesitation or throttle input.
(The factory advise all techs to drive customers cars in this way, but don't tell customers so that they wear out their clutches, therefore generating part revenue.)
On a new clutch, the car should move off at around 1,500 rpm.
But, and it is important that you do this on a level surface, for every extra 100 rpm needed to get the car moving over 1,500 rpm, this equates to 20% clutch wear.
So a car that needs 1,800 rpm to move off is showing 60% clutch wear.
I hope that this help,
Cheers,
Rutty.
ruttboy said:
Yes, the wear test can be done with an E-Gear car, but it is slightly harder to do because of the actuation of the clutch.
Just be positive with the throttle and don't back off, and note what revs the car achieves when it gets going.
Ruttboy.
Do you know if this also applies to the Ferrari 360 manuals?Just be positive with the throttle and don't back off, and note what revs the car achieves when it gets going.
Ruttboy.
They have the same anti stall type set off on first gear
ruttboy said:
Yes, you can get a warning of sorts indicating clutch wear by doing the clutch wear test.
All modern Lambos have an anti-stall system in their ECUs to enable the car to creep in traffic without wearing the clutch. This works by adjusting the revs when 1st gear is engaged and the clutch pedal is brought up WITHOUT using the throttle.
The car should not stall, and will move off without hesitation or throttle input.
(The factory advise all techs to drive customers cars in this way, but don't tell customers so that they wear out their clutches, therefore generating part revenue.)
On a new clutch, the car should move off at around 1,500 rpm.
But, and it is important that you do this on a level surface, for every extra 100 rpm needed to get the car moving over 1,500 rpm, this equates to 20% clutch wear.
So a car that needs 1,800 rpm to move off is showing 60% clutch wear.
I hope that this help,
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
If this is for a manual, then I don't recognise the numbers. My car would always pull away without any throttle at idle revs - the revs would dip a bit when you engaged the clutch and then it would start moving smoothly. I never sensed the car raising the revs at all. If I stayed off the throttle the car would then just amble along at idle revs (circa 10 mph). All modern Lambos have an anti-stall system in their ECUs to enable the car to creep in traffic without wearing the clutch. This works by adjusting the revs when 1st gear is engaged and the clutch pedal is brought up WITHOUT using the throttle.
The car should not stall, and will move off without hesitation or throttle input.
(The factory advise all techs to drive customers cars in this way, but don't tell customers so that they wear out their clutches, therefore generating part revenue.)
On a new clutch, the car should move off at around 1,500 rpm.
But, and it is important that you do this on a level surface, for every extra 100 rpm needed to get the car moving over 1,500 rpm, this equates to 20% clutch wear.
So a car that needs 1,800 rpm to move off is showing 60% clutch wear.
I hope that this help,
Cheers,
Ruttboy.
Cheers
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