Is a Zonda really worth it?
Discussion
The White F at SuperVettura seems to have creeped up from £800k to £1.5 million over the last few 3 years or so and seems to be a permanent feature on their website. I am not sure if it has ever been sold during that period but whenever I looked at their site it has always been there. The mileage if I am not mistaken has never changed.
Happy to be corrected if I am wrong
Happy to be corrected if I am wrong
_Superleggera_ said:
I'd say more like 6-7.
If that is the case, not a big deal because it would still be cheaper than buying a 3.5 million euro Cinque.I doubt it would be that high though - most of these Zonda's have already been upgraded to an "F" spec. Besides the interior and some cosmetic changes, the engine upgrade would probably be the most costly.
darksider said:
_Superleggera_ said:
I'd say more like 6-7.
If that is the case, not a big deal because it would still be cheaper than buying a 3.5 million euro Cinque.I doubt it would be that high though - most of these Zonda's have already been upgraded to an "F" spec. Besides the interior and some cosmetic changes, the engine upgrade would probably be the most costly.
NRS said:
darksider said:
_Superleggera_ said:
I'd say more like 6-7.
If that is the case, not a big deal because it would still be cheaper than buying a 3.5 million euro Cinque.I doubt it would be that high though - most of these Zonda's have already been upgraded to an "F" spec. Besides the interior and some cosmetic changes, the engine upgrade would probably be the most costly.
First you only have to paint four major components, the front and rear clams and both doors. All of these body panels and easy to remove taking no more that a couple of hours and that’s if you are slow. Secondly these panels are not painted on the underside or in the door shuts. These are clear coated carbon and are unlikely to have ever been damaged and therefore will not need respraying. The shapes of these panels are not complex so prep work to the painted surface again is not difficult. And with the panels off the car and no need to paint the undersides the actual spray job is pretty simple. I would be happy to do that in my home garage where I have painted much more complex shapes to show standards.
If the clear carbon panels need work, again the job is reasonably simple as all are easy to remove from the car. I would make a massive profit if someone paid me £30k to do that job
Streetrod said:
The thing is realistically the paint on a Zonda should actually cost less to do than most major supercars, and hears why.
First you only have to paint four major components, the front and rear clams and both doors. All of these body panels and easy to remove taking no more that a couple of hours and that’s if you are slow. Secondly these panels are not painted on the underside or in the door shuts. These are clear coated carbon and are unlikely to have ever been damaged and therefore will not need respraying. The shapes of these panels are not complex so prep work to the painted surface again is not difficult. And with the panels off the car and no need to paint the undersides the actual spray job is pretty simple. I would be happy to do that in my home garage where I have painted much more complex shapes to show standards.
If the clear carbon panels need work, again the job is reasonably simple as all are easy to remove from the car. I would make a massive profit if someone paid me £30k to do that job
I know it's been discussed a few times, but what it comes down to it "because they can charge that much". Same as all the parts for the classics that have been leaping in value - same parts and no more expensive to produce, but because the car is now worth a lot more they can charge increased prices. It was more just supporting the £400k upgrade is not going to happen.First you only have to paint four major components, the front and rear clams and both doors. All of these body panels and easy to remove taking no more that a couple of hours and that’s if you are slow. Secondly these panels are not painted on the underside or in the door shuts. These are clear coated carbon and are unlikely to have ever been damaged and therefore will not need respraying. The shapes of these panels are not complex so prep work to the painted surface again is not difficult. And with the panels off the car and no need to paint the undersides the actual spray job is pretty simple. I would be happy to do that in my home garage where I have painted much more complex shapes to show standards.
If the clear carbon panels need work, again the job is reasonably simple as all are easy to remove from the car. I would make a massive profit if someone paid me £30k to do that job
NRS said:
Streetrod said:
The thing is realistically the paint on a Zonda should actually cost less to do than most major supercars, and hears why.
First you only have to paint four major components, the front and rear clams and both doors. All of these body panels and easy to remove taking no more that a couple of hours and that’s if you are slow. Secondly these panels are not painted on the underside or in the door shuts. These are clear coated carbon and are unlikely to have ever been damaged and therefore will not need respraying. The shapes of these panels are not complex so prep work to the painted surface again is not difficult. And with the panels off the car and no need to paint the undersides the actual spray job is pretty simple. I would be happy to do that in my home garage where I have painted much more complex shapes to show standards.
If the clear carbon panels need work, again the job is reasonably simple as all are easy to remove from the car. I would make a massive profit if someone paid me £30k to do that job
I know it's been discussed a few times, but what it comes down to it "because they can charge that much". Same as all the parts for the classics that have been leaping in value - same parts and no more expensive to produce, but because the car is now worth a lot more they can charge increased prices. It was more just supporting the £400k upgrade is not going to happen.First you only have to paint four major components, the front and rear clams and both doors. All of these body panels and easy to remove taking no more that a couple of hours and that’s if you are slow. Secondly these panels are not painted on the underside or in the door shuts. These are clear coated carbon and are unlikely to have ever been damaged and therefore will not need respraying. The shapes of these panels are not complex so prep work to the painted surface again is not difficult. And with the panels off the car and no need to paint the undersides the actual spray job is pretty simple. I would be happy to do that in my home garage where I have painted much more complex shapes to show standards.
If the clear carbon panels need work, again the job is reasonably simple as all are easy to remove from the car. I would make a massive profit if someone paid me £30k to do that job
Streetrod said:
I know your right. I have always found it hard to swallow that because an item is expensive therefore the you have to pay way over the odds to have it fixed. To panel beat a dented VW beetle wing is no different to doing the same on a Ferrari 250 SWB wing to the same standard so why should one cost multiple times more....
Insurance will be a factor. They'd rather hit a VW Beetle with another customers car, or have the Beetle stolen during the night, than a 7 figure super car I guess.Messed with, but weak(ening) yen could make it interesting...
http://www.dream33.com/src/search/stock/stock_deta...
http://www.dream33.com/src/search/stock/stock_deta...
9six4 said:
Messed with, but weak(ening) yen could make it interesting...
http://www.dream33.com/src/search/stock/stock_deta...
Seems to be cheaper here:http://www.dream33.com/src/search/stock/stock_deta...
http://page23.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o110...
Streetrod said:
The White F at SuperVettura seems to have creeped up from £800k to £1.5 million over the last few 3 years or so and seems to be a permanent feature on their website. I am not sure if it has ever been sold during that period but whenever I looked at their site it has always been there. The mileage if I am not mistaken has never changed.
Happy to be corrected if I am wrong
Afternoon! Happy to be corrected if I am wrong
Yes the White car has been here a while but as you have suggested we already sold it once since it landed with us the new owner just never took delivery. It has turned into quite a nice investment.
From the potential buyers we are speaking with at the moment I believe it is actually going to achieve very close to retail asking price. Quite a rare car now being an untouched original car in RHD form with nice mileage.
As for the title of this thread, is a Zonda really worth it? I think it is - very cool car and quite different to what they are producing today. Something that for sure is going to go down in the history books and we will look back and think £1.5m was a snip and why did we not just keep it in stock!
TWareham said:
Streetrod said:
The White F at SuperVettura seems to have creeped up from £800k to £1.5 million over the last few 3 years or so and seems to be a permanent feature on their website. I am not sure if it has ever been sold during that period but whenever I looked at their site it has always been there. The mileage if I am not mistaken has never changed.
Happy to be corrected if I am wrong
Afternoon! Happy to be corrected if I am wrong
Yes the White car has been here a while but as you have suggested we already sold it once since it landed with us the new owner just never took delivery. It has turned into quite a nice investment.
From the potential buyers we are speaking with at the moment I believe it is actually going to achieve very close to retail asking price. Quite a rare car now being an untouched original car in RHD form with nice mileage.
As for the title of this thread, is a Zonda really worth it? I think it is - very cool car and quite different to what they are producing today. Something that for sure is going to go down in the history books and we will look back and think £1.5m was a snip and why did we not just keep it in stock!
s off here but I was wondering how you go about setting the price on this car. Very few sell in any given year so I suspect the price is not being driven by demand. And as you say this car has been with you for years now. So are you just year on year increasing the price to in an odd way stimulate interest?I think this is the car mentioned above. I was driving back from Sunday Service last year at Goodwood after having just bought my Vantage. Letting my mate have a drive we ran into the Zonda and CCR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRGq-TNRslo&fe...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRGq-TNRslo&fe...
9six4 said:
Messed with, but weak(ening) yen could make it interesting...
http://www.dream33.com/src/search/stock/stock_deta...
Why, oh why, oh why?! Poor car http://www.dream33.com/src/search/stock/stock_deta...
So this just came up:
http://www.cohencunild.com/listing/pagani-cinque-r...
Never heard of these guys before but I was already headed to Marbella to visit SuperGarage anyways so why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone?
Its strange; just a few weeks ago I thought my options were limited but Zonda's keep popping up!
http://www.cohencunild.com/listing/pagani-cinque-r...
Never heard of these guys before but I was already headed to Marbella to visit SuperGarage anyways so why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone?
Its strange; just a few weeks ago I thought my options were limited but Zonda's keep popping up!
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