RE: Goodwood Sunday Service/track day 10-11 December

[DanBMW]

Where are the guys who were taking photo's / videos out the front as people were leaving?

Hoping some one got me

[mario328]

A few snaps from me.

1 by M ., on Flickr

3 by M ., on Flickr

4 by M ., on Flickr

5 by M ., on Flickr

6 by M ., on Flickr

7 by M ., on Flickr

8 by M ., on Flickr

9 by M ., on Flickr

10 by M ., on Flickr

[topless360]

Alex said:

topless360 said:

Nice drive down and morning out. Who was the PHer in the white Golf R Estate? I gave chase briefly coming off the roundabout, they're pretty brisk aren't they!

Were you in the Z4? That was me.

Edited by Alex on Sunday 11th December 22:43

Yes that's me

[xjay1337]

100 IAN said:

What Tosh, (no offence).

I use mine daily and treat it to spruce up from time-to-time, what's wrong with that?

NB. They use clean water, new sponges and do a far better job than I would.

They use incorrect methods.
They use harsh chemicals, sponges are bad, they should be using wash mitts, I bet they use chamois or water blades to dry the car.

I worked as a detailer for 2 years and have been doing it as a "hobby" for a total or about 6 years and I see and repaired the damage done from these cheap car washes.

20150127_201607_zpssxdmynvh-13 by Fat Bear Photography, on Flickr

For example.

If you are unsure and local I would be happy to come to you, explain / show you what they do wrong, and polish a panel to show you the difference.

[OssAndy]

A few phone snaps


Overview by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Overview by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


AMG Nose by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Ferrari F12 by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Ford Escort by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Turning Temptation by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Impish good looks by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Carbon Emissions by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Just an old Toyota by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Flat caps and Morgans by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Offender by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Dirty Bottom by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr


Cayman GT4 by zimbarbaluba, on Flickr

[Lordbenny]

A LOT of people really don't care about the 'two bucket' method, lambs wool mitts and ultra expensive products. They just want their cars cleaned by someone else quickly so they can drive them and get them dirty again! Detailing is for people who have too much money and are a bit too precious about their cars....IMO of course!

[HorneyMX5]

Lordbenny said:

A LOT of people really don't care about the 'two bucket' method, lambs wool mitts and ultra expensive products. They just want their cars cleaned by someone else quickly so they can drive them and get the, dirty again! Detailing is for people who have too much money and are a bit too precious about their cars....IMO of course!

Also, not all hand car wash places are created equal. The one I use locally uses woolen mits to wash and big MF towels to dry the car. They have a massive stash of both and whip out freshly cleaned ones every couple of cars.

[HiHoSilverSLK]

That was a very enjoyable Sunday Service.
Interesting cars, relaxed atmosphere and beautiful weather arranged as well.
Thank You PH!

[100 IAN]

xjay1337 said:

They use incorrect methods.
They use harsh chemicals, sponges are bad, they should be using wash mitts, I bet they use chamois or water blades to dry the car.

I worked as a detailer for 2 years and have been doing it as a "hobby" for a total or about 6 years and I see and repaired the damage done from these cheap car washes.

You can't details a car EVERY time you wash it, the same as you can't eat Michelin quality food every meal (more's the pity).

Cars are for using and enjoying, if you get too anal about 'damaging' them they become useless inanimate objects...what a waste.

[xjay1337]

100 IAN said:

You can't details a car EVERY time you wash it, the same as you can't eat Michelin quality food every meal (more's the pity).

Cars are for using and enjoying, if you get too anal about 'damaging' them they become useless inanimate objects...what a waste.

No-one is saying to detail it every time.

I "detail" mine once or twice a year, and the other times I just wash and dry it.

My car is still fairly swirl free, even after 30+ washes since being done in February.
You can enjoy your car and still care for it. I wash it in 45 minutes once every couple of weeks or so.
Drive through car washes that charge £10 simply cannot take the time to do the job properly.

Their products may remove the LSP on your car and while they may use nice mitts in some cases and MF towels, you need extra time to dry the car with towels which they don't have, and if they are careless in their use of the mitt they can still drag stuff across your paintwork and mark it.

Anyway as I said that is my professional experience working on many cars from Ferraris to Fiats and if you were local-ish, offering a chance to show you what I mean.

[Bluehawk]

The Hypno-Toad said:

Quick hello to the owner of the Saab 9-5 Aero Estate Auto that was on the grid walk. If you check the history of your car and discover that original owner was Bell & Colvill, I think it was one of the demonstrators that I used to cane the nuts off drive very carefully within the full rules of the road when I worked there. I could be wrong but that number plate seems very familiar.

I also the guy driving the silver MX-5 in front of you on the way back through Chilgrove & West Harting.

Interesting that!
I was told the car was originally given to a Director of SAAB as a retirement present! I'm quite glad it has previously been driven properly and not sat cruising around town its entire life.
As it very much gets the same treatment now!

Ahh i did wonder if the MX-5 was a PHer, was a nice little drive back through those roads.

Edited by Bluehawk on Monday 12th December 10:40

[Bluehawk]

Just a couple of Snaps from me:

Edited by Bluehawk on Monday 12th December 11:20

[thecremeegg]

xjay1337 said:

They use incorrect methods.
They use harsh chemicals, sponges are bad, they should be using wash mitts, I bet they use chamois or water blades to dry the car.

I worked as a detailer for 2 years and have been doing it as a "hobby" for a total or about 6 years and I see and repaired the damage done from these cheap car washes.

20150127_201607_zpssxdmynvh-13 by Fat Bear Photography, on Flickr

For example.

If you are unsure and local I would be happy to come to you, explain / show you what they do wrong, and polish a panel to show you the difference.

Thing is, it's all well and good getting your car detailed so it looks lovely and swirl free, but then you have to spend time and effort maintaining that look.
For most people, myself included, it's just not worth the effort. I'll put up with swirl marks for the hours and hours it saves me every week having to wash the thing. I prefer driving it and would rather spend time doing that.
If you know how I can get my car detailed and keep it looking perfect without any more than 20-30 mins a week spent on it then I'm all ears

[Woody928]

DanBMW said:

You were behind me and my brother on the way back I think. LSB M3 and Midnight Blue 350z?

Then some how you managed to get two cars ahead of us!?

I was indeed followed you out through the tunnel and all the way over to Midhurst. Not sure I would have been able to have kept up in the Datsun had you had clear roads though, that being said was expecting more progress to have been made

I have the advantage that I know that route like the back of my hand coming down from Surrey to Chichester/Witterings since I was a kid. Rather than using the main road through (like everyone) there's a few back roads you can cut though which allows you to overtake quite a few cars. I was slower than usual due to some cyclists however the undercut normally works a treat, as clearly proved to be the case. One of a few useful cheats

[ashleyman]

thecremeegg said:

Thing is, it's all well and good getting your car detailed so it looks lovely and swirl free, but then you have to spend time and effort maintaining that look.
For most people, myself included, it's just not worth the effort. I'll put up with swirl marks for the hours and hours it saves me every week having to wash the thing. I prefer driving it and would rather spend time doing that.
If you know how I can get my car detailed and keep it looking perfect without any more than 20-30 mins a week spent on it then I'm all ears

Most detailers do something called a maintenance wash and usually costs about £35. Depends what you value though and if you're really not bothered about swirls then it's not worth it at all.

Edited by ashleyman on Monday 12th December 14:16

[xjay1337]

thecremeegg said:

Thing is, it's all well and good getting your car detailed so it looks lovely and swirl free, but then you have to spend time and effort maintaining that look.
For most people, myself included, it's just not worth the effort. I'll put up with swirl marks for the hours and hours it saves me every week having to wash the thing. I prefer driving it and would rather spend time doing that.
If you know how I can get my car detailed and keep it looking perfect without any more than 20-30 mins a week spent on it then I'm all ears

As I said, it takes me 45 minutes to wash and dry my car if I don't dither about - it's hardly hours and hours.

Many times you can rinse 90% of the water away! Are you telling me you can't spend an hour every couple of weeks?

Swirls and scratchs detract from the enjoyment you get from the car - if you have a nice car (in the chap aboves case,a Mclaren) then surely looking at it and being looked at, is part of the appeal, even if it is a small part.

[ecsrobin]

100 IAN said:

ecsrobin said:

There was a white (possibly silver) McLaren in the hand car wash at segensworth the other day. I cringed that the the owner clearly has no love for their car.

What Tosh, (no offence).

I use mine daily and treat it to spruce up from time-to-time, what's wrong with that?

NB. They use clean water, new sponges and do a far better job than I would.

Because said car wash (not the one in the photo the one mentioned earlier) uses the bushes to put their rags on that that they use to then wipe all the cars I've seen the results on a friends car it's not pretty!!

Edited by ecsrobin on Monday 12th December 13:37

[marmalise]

Great morning, first time I've brought a car

[awlp16]

I'd like to make a huge thank you to Pistonheads and everyone that organised this SS.

I took my other halves Granddad, who has a huge passion for cars but doesn't go out too much. Driving there we were talking about his past cars, and his favourite being his old Triumph GT6 he had exported to South Africa. He's been back in the country 15 years and was telling me he'd never seen once since moving back to UK.

Well, what was parked up? A blooming Triumph GT6! In his exact words, "I'd thought I'd never get to see one of these again", and got a bit emotional. If you owned that Triumph, thank you, you made his day!

The power of the car community, you're all awesome!

Sorry for the slightly wet post, Asides that, I had an awesome day, what an epic collection of cars! As echoed, was a really friendly day.

[Chris99]

A cracking good Sunday Service and thanks to all the organisers, marshals and helpers.

Looking forward to the next one