jeep cherokee 2.7d black smoke

jeep cherokee 2.7d black smoke

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davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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my 2.7d jeep grand cherokee emits black smoke when accelorating hard

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 8th June 2012
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Look for a hose that has a rip in it, or popped off, or holes in the intercooler.

one eyed mick

1,189 posts

161 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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Check cond of air fiter and as above hoses,what milage ? has it been chipped , injectors are aposs if high milage HTH

davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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fantastic advise thanks
i will take a look
150k so i thing the injectors could be the culprit
is there an easy way of checking the wear on them ?

one eyed mick

1,189 posts

161 months

Sunday 10th June 2012
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Cheap chance fix Fortefuel system cleaner ,other wise set of recon inj ,are the they electric or old fashion mech/pressure activated , lecy ones can be pricey ,mech ones reasonable

davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Monday 11th June 2012
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thanks
tried the injector cleaner ,,, so here's hoping 1

davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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back again
had jeep at garage , leak back test done and ok after 1 injector replaced , shows up with no fault codes and have changed air filter and derv filter ( which were fine anyway )
stumped !!!
HELP

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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davidaitken101 said:
back again
had jeep at garage , leak back test done and ok after 1 injector replaced , shows up with no fault codes and have changed air filter and derv filter ( which were fine anyway )
stumped !!!
HELP
EGR valve stuck ????

davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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thanks
but howw would i know ??, also should have said that it starts , idles , runs and pulls well

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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What year and type of engine is it?

Smoke is from inefficient combustion, like too much fuel, not enough air, or injection timing.
Common rails are pretty smart, and would have spotted something. Injection pump engine could have the timing off, meaning the diesel is injected too late, and it's still trying to burn as it is heading out of the cylinders.

If someone has fitted a tuning box or it has had a dodgy remap, you'd get those symptoms with no faults showing.

Nick1point9

3,917 posts

180 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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I can't believe no one has asked this yet...


Does it always do it or is it only the first time you put your foot down?

It's completely normal for a diesel to emit a (sometimes very substantial) cloud of smoke under acceleration, as it's blowing through soot and other particles that were in the exhaust system.

davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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it is a 2.7 crd ( merc engine ) on a 52 plate with 150k
it emits black reek under hard acceloration
but also is smoky at idle , but grey not black ( not oil though )

davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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the End may be on it
dodgy re map
what is the best way to find out / check for that ?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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If you've got any bluetooth code reader things that can log the data, checking to see if the boost has been raised is one, but then again, I've seen plenty where people have missed a limiter to the boost never changes.

If you could find someone who does remapping near you, they should be able to check, or if there isn't going to be any warranty issues, you could get MB to update or reprogram the ECU so you know it is entirely standard.

It's pretty common for people not to mention a remap when selling as it a) makes the car stand out as being powerful and b)doesn't give the impression they've been racing about in it.

I've no idea what someone would charge to check and return to standard, they might even be after full remap prices, it'd really depend on how helpful the guy feels like.

davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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now changed the air and derv filters
worse than ever !
pulled the wire off the sensor thing at the airfilter outlet and the smoke stopped ,,,, but it ran like a pig !
next move ??#

jay140285

626 posts

184 months

Monday 15th October 2012
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Have you got any of the dreaded black death around the injectors?

KRL

121 posts

157 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Was this ever solved?

I've got the same problem Jeep GC 2.7CRD throwing out a lot of black smoke under acceleration.

davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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No it never was , and is still the same
I have tried everything and everyone , including main dealer , however as no fault codes They all say no Fault ! Joke
In the event of not knowing they are now blaming the injectors , I am not so sure , but have given up !

chryslerben

1,171 posts

159 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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As a Chrysler master tech yes the injectors do go out of tolerance and cause excessive smoking but still work so no dtc/ obvious fault is present often the only way to check is to remove and send off for testing we used northants diesel electric for this, also the black death as one of the previous posters called it is an issue with the seals on the base of the injectors fail and cause combustants to leak past causing smoking and poor fuel efficency.

davidaitken101

Original Poster:

10 posts

142 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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thanks , the main dealer did some test on the injectors and gave me the results, i will dig them out and post them for comment , thanks