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stevieturbo said:
Interesting, I like their sump pan, looks like it could add some strength to the 200 block.I`ve asked them for some pricing.
jontysafe said:
Unfortunately they only created one prototype and it didn't work particularly well so was dropped.
Ahh well, they do make some great stuff though.What does Julian offer in that regard ? Or Mark/MAD ? Or Harvey Gibbs ?
They're bound to all have done loads of dry sump installs over the years.
Things trickling along. Have bought a Borg Warner efr7163 after a lot of research. Car is booked into Nortech for the twin scroll manifold, 3.5" down pipe and exhaust along with custom oil drain.
Alan Docking is coming down to have a look at the car to talk about cooling options.
I've also ordered a lovely billet plenum from Anembo engineering.
I've also been talking to Owen developments about mapping again.
Alan Docking is coming down to have a look at the car to talk about cooling options.
I've also ordered a lovely billet plenum from Anembo engineering.
I've also been talking to Owen developments about mapping again.
Finally after farrrr too much deliberation than was entirely necessary I've bought an intercooler
http://www.turbosbytm.com/intercooler-core-air-air... Tried to buy from Uk dealer but would have been a 8 week wait so found at the Garrett dealer in Spain.
Max made suggestions on end tank design based on old F1 profiles so I actually found out who made them and final design won't be very far different from that. I will post a link.
So onto oil cooling, I would like to use laminova because of space restrictions but can't help going back to the fact there is a low delta T again, like my old charge cooler rad. And an air to oil cooler is as reliable as a brick. Any thoughts?
http://www.turbosbytm.com/intercooler-core-air-air... Tried to buy from Uk dealer but would have been a 8 week wait so found at the Garrett dealer in Spain.
Max made suggestions on end tank design based on old F1 profiles so I actually found out who made them and final design won't be very far different from that. I will post a link.
So onto oil cooling, I would like to use laminova because of space restrictions but can't help going back to the fact there is a low delta T again, like my old charge cooler rad. And an air to oil cooler is as reliable as a brick. Any thoughts?
jontysafe said:
Finally after farrrr too much deliberation than was entirely necessary I've bought an intercooler
http://www.turbosbytm.com/intercooler-core-air-air... Tried to buy from Uk dealer but would have been a 8 week wait so found at the Garrett dealer in Spain.
Max made suggestions on end tank design based on old F1 profiles so I actually found out who made them and final design won't be very far different from that. I will post a link.
So onto oil cooling, I would like to use laminova because of space restrictions but can't help going back to the fact there is a low delta T again, like my old charge cooler rad. And an air to oil cooler is as reliable as a brick. Any thoughts?
I see Spanish VAT is around 21% ?http://www.turbosbytm.com/intercooler-core-air-air... Tried to buy from Uk dealer but would have been a 8 week wait so found at the Garrett dealer in Spain.
Max made suggestions on end tank design based on old F1 profiles so I actually found out who made them and final design won't be very far different from that. I will post a link.
So onto oil cooling, I would like to use laminova because of space restrictions but can't help going back to the fact there is a low delta T again, like my old charge cooler rad. And an air to oil cooler is as reliable as a brick. Any thoughts?
With the Euro rate, that still makes their pricing similar compared to the one UK seller I had seen that was advertising the cores ( although they now seem to be gone, I see BTN now list the cores )
How much was postage ?
Do they have good stocks of all sizes ?
Stevie if you go on their website it tells you which are in stock and which are out of stock, the few cores I looked at though were all in stock.
Shipping has for some reason defaulted to €11.30! That isn`t right as I`ve had an email from them this morning saying for some reason shipping address has defaulted to Spain.
Shipping has for some reason defaulted to €11.30! That isn`t right as I`ve had an email from them this morning saying for some reason shipping address has defaulted to Spain.
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I'm going to rear mount the engine radiator low in the rear roll bar and use some intelligently designed ducting to ensure it gets enough airflow. No heat soak from engine and I can fit a full size Pro-alloy cosworth rad and fan pack. If I need a supplemental electric water pump then so be it. Somehow doubling the power of the engine and near enough taking away a third of the frontal area of the radiator seemed counter intuitive.
I'm undecided and want to take advice on oil cooling. Either air/oil cooler behind and below intercooler or a laminova water/oil cooler.
Another thing I want to look at is the alternator. Currently have a denso 45amp. If I do need a supplemental water pump will possibly need to upgrade that. Holley lift pump, 044 fuel pump, twin Spal fans and coilpack ignition would need all of that.
I'm undecided and want to take advice on oil cooling. Either air/oil cooler behind and below intercooler or a laminova water/oil cooler.
Another thing I want to look at is the alternator. Currently have a denso 45amp. If I do need a supplemental water pump will possibly need to upgrade that. Holley lift pump, 044 fuel pump, twin Spal fans and coilpack ignition would need all of that.
Dont skimp on the alternator, 45A is nowhere near adequate IMO. Always build in a lot of reserve unless you're a dedicated race car looking to run as light as possible.
As for oil cooler...maybe side mount it with air from engine bay exiting out the side through it ?
Or use it as the heater matrix to keep your toes warm lol
As for oil cooler...maybe side mount it with air from engine bay exiting out the side through it ?
Or use it as the heater matrix to keep your toes warm lol
Julian has a cnc machined alloy bracket to drop and bring forward any Denso bodied alternator so perfect. Soooo including updated 85amp alternator its £780!!!! Hmmmmm.
I already have a custom bracket so will just try an uprated denso bodied alternator, just have to be careful with sizing.
I already have a custom bracket so will just try an uprated denso bodied alternator, just have to be careful with sizing.
Cooling idea is one born out of simplicity and common sense. Be interesting to see if I do need a supplemental pump. One "specialist" has told me because I'm increasing volume of water it will be needed. Not sure what volume of water has to do with it. It's all going to be about pressure which as we know is a measure of resistance. Can the venerable ford yb pump at enough pressure at idle? Who knows until we try it.
jontysafe said:
Cooling idea is one born out of simplicity and common sense. Be interesting to see if I do need a supplemental pump. One "specialist" has told me because I'm increasing volume of water it will be needed. Not sure what volume of water has to do with it. It's all going to be about pressure which as we know is a measure of resistance. Can the venerable ford yb pump at enough pressure at idle? Who knows until we try it.
What are you doing that makes you think you need an additional pump, where the Ford pump wont do ?And I think I'd skip on that fancy alternator bracket lol
Surely its handy enough to fit a decent alternator to it without insane costs ?
I'm going to first try it out for sure without the complication of an electric water pump. With the extra length of lines and the fact the radiator will be raised above the engine then there will be more resistance but will it be enough to need help? I'm guessing probably not. The only issue, if there is one, will be at idle.
Mechanical pump will have no problems IMO...
And dont forget, whatever water it may have to push uphill...that same water falls back down pulling some with it.
Just make sure whatever is your highest point....is the remote header with airspace, either that or build it into the radiator somehow.
Air locks will be the only potential problem if not designed right
And dont forget, whatever water it may have to push uphill...that same water falls back down pulling some with it.
Just make sure whatever is your highest point....is the remote header with airspace, either that or build it into the radiator somehow.
Air locks will be the only potential problem if not designed right
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