Hesitation on a MINI One

Hesitation on a MINI One

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Oily Puddles

Original Poster:

31 posts

114 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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My MINI One has 110,000 miles onto clock but is well looked after and regularly serviced. It drives very well and has been 100% reliable from the day that I bought it brand new in 2007. It has only ever needed tyres and routine servicing.

Recently it has started to show an odd symptom, like a very slight stutter or momentary hesitation, particularly when accelerating. At first I thought it might need the injectors cleaning but I have run some cleaner through and it made no difference. In an older car I would suspect a failing spark plug but these have always been changed as scheduled and new ones are not due. The fault is unpredictable and intermittent. Does anyone have any ideas as to what this could be?

Oily

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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It could be lots of things smile

You need to have the engine live data read whilst it is being driven to see what is going on with fuelling/manifold vacuum etc which should highlight what is going wrong and then the relevant sensors etc can be investigated.

Oily Puddles

Original Poster:

31 posts

114 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Thanks Jimmy,

Does this have to be done by MINI to get the proper diagnostic measurements taken? Is there any other (cheaper) way of finding out what is the problem?



Oily

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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It doesn't have to be a mini garage, it does need someone who knows what they are looking for though smile

Post in your regional section and see if you can get a recommendation for someone local that is good.

Oily Puddles

Original Poster:

31 posts

114 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Ok Thanks.

zybertran

2 posts

113 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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could you check your air system please? may a good cleaning of the air filters and EGR would do, especially since its only a hesitation, it could be something related to Air system intake!

Do let me know if it works!
BR

Oily Puddles

Original Poster:

31 posts

114 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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The car hesitation got to the point of the MINI not being able to tick over. It went in to Mini dealer today and they diagnosed an oxygen sensor failure and said that the computer was also suggesting problems with solenoids in the intake and exhaust BUT that this could be a false reading caused by the faulty oxygen sensor.

They changed the oxygen sensor and it ticks over and runs well now but there is still this occasional missing of the engine. In a 35 mile trip it will misfire about 50 times. Not predictable and totally intermittent. On an old 1960's car I would say that it was as if a spark plug was breaking down but these have been regularly changed and should be fine.

Oily

ch427

8,951 posts

233 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Sounds silly but try giving it an oil and filter change, i had one of these a while back with oxygen sensor and valve timing codes and this cured it. I think for some reason the oil quality was causing the valve timing solenoids to play up, these do have gauze like filters in them that can be cleaned out too.

Oily Puddles

Original Poster:

31 posts

114 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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It had a complete oil change a fortnight ago with a new filter. (recommended MINI garage oil). It goes back in (again) on Monday.....

Oily

ch427

8,951 posts

233 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Ok good luck with it, the problem with a fault like this is not many people are capable of using the equipment to view live data and actually understand it.

shalon

47 posts

150 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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There bad for crank sensors starting to break up with heat or the valve on the rocker cover with the breather pipe going to it

Oily Puddles

Original Poster:

31 posts

114 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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MINI went back into MINI Dealer on Monday. £438 later they had changed the electronicThermostat and both inlet and exhaust Solenoid Valves.

We drove the car away and before we got home it was 'missing' again! We have now spent over £1250 with MINI in the last month most of it on curing 'problems' that they diagnose with their computer but which don't actually address the fault with the car. The sickening thing is that they act as though the car having a problem is our fault and we should be grateful that they are curing all these apparent deficiencies!!!!

Before it went to them for rear brakes and an oil change it was running perfectly.

They collected the MINI this morning (Wednesday) and have taken it back in to try and find out what is wrong with her (again).

Oily

Abagnale

366 posts

114 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Not sure if yours has the same set up as my Cooper S, but I experienced the exact same symptoms as you & cured it by changing the coil pack. Four bolts & done. Sits above the exhaust manifold.


chryslerben

1,171 posts

159 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Abagnale said:
Not sure if yours has the same set up as my Cooper S, but I experienced the exact same symptoms as you & cured it by changing the coil pack. Four bolts & done. Sits above the exhaust manifold.



This^^^^

I work for mini and without taking a look this would be my best guess with the symptoms you describe it would be worth changing the ht leads to, also check the plugs just because their not due doesn't mean to ignore them

Oily Puddles

Original Poster:

31 posts

114 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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The car came back from MINI (with no additional charge). They told me that they had failed to "set the electronic thermostat correctly' and this had caused the hesitation problem.

Being a suspicious person I wonder whether there was actually another fault that they found but that they should have found earlier and they didn't tell me as they knew I would complain about the additional costs I have had to incur!!!!

Either way the car is now running like a dream. Thanks to all for your input and suggestions.
Best Wishes,

Oily.