Engine stops in heavy stop/start traffic

Engine stops in heavy stop/start traffic

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TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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It's showing OK now, and I'll say the engine is running OK now.

When they heat up, I guess due to cracks inside, something seems to move and the signal drops out. The ECU sees this as a stopped engine, and fuel and ignition stop too.

If your code reader can read the RPMs of the engine, try something like pulling the fuel pump fuse so you know it will just crank without starting, and have a check to see you can read a cranking speed, 300-500rpms.

Then, if it cuts out again, do the same thing and if you see no cranking RPMs, it's the crank sensor.

Tachos tend to have a dead spot at the start so cranking usually isn't enough to lift the needle from the stop, but at the same time, if you ever see the tacho needle kick about wildly, that is also a good sign that the crank sensor is playing up.

I can't say this is your problem, but it is something that turns up on BMWs a lot, and crank sensors usually are a similar design.


Dammit

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3,790 posts

208 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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The sensor is only ~£40, I'll grab a new one and fit it.

Dammit

Original Poster:

3,790 posts

208 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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One 10mm socket needed to remove and refit the sensor, which is very easy, if you totally ignore that you need to remove most of the intake pipework to get to it...

andyiley

9,220 posts

152 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Still thinking it sounds exactly like the coil problem I had, have you whipped a plug out to check for spark when it cuts out?

Sardonicus

18,962 posts

221 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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But if the crank sensor as gone AWOL you wont get a spark either frown

Dammit

Original Poster:

3,790 posts

208 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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To get a plug lead off a plug with the Volvo 5 cylinder engine you need to take a boost pipe off, then remove the cover that goes between the cams - 8mm socket and a Torx T30 driver needed. It's not something I had the tools to do in traffic.

I have, however, ordered a new coil, which I'll swap in with the crank sensor.

Dammit

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3,790 posts

208 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Changed the coil and the crank sensor today for new units.

Cleaned up the old crank sensor and dropped it in a cup of boiling water - resistance went from 294 ohms (room temp) to 360 ohms (90 degrees or so).

These sensors are meant to be ok if the reading is between 200-500 Ohms, so this one is theoretically ok.

However - the fault only occurs when the engine is HOT, how hot could this sensor expect to get?

Yes - I am still hoping that it's the cause of the issue.