RE: 4 Stroke Redesigned
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Now I will describe the entire technology of modification swimmer.
Made a cheap swimmer :
1.To buy old sea containers.
2. Weld some diagonals new part too to improve the stiffness,
3. To paint the container this way modified with method of the bath in rustproof paint.
4 . Put for means container maximum polystyrene foam packed into strong plastic sacks.
5. To close the container tightly.
5. Through the small hole to fill up under the pressure with the foam polystyrene foam.
(automatically expanded one's volume)
6. We have a long time live swimmer weight about 3000 kG , and volume 33 m^3
Sum we have 30 000 KG (30 Ton) displacement force each .
Redy too using In oscillatory dynamo or water pumps make energy.
Regards Andrew
Problem with wind dragging container away?
Container should only just float at surface?
Is the dynamo anchored on the sea bed? (mechanism to extend or retract cable according to tide?) Maybe dynamo can just hang in deeper water due to grravity, still a method to stop the whole lot drifting away is needed)
Good stuff Felix - keep it up - I find this thread very interesting!
Container should only just float at surface?
Is the dynamo anchored on the sea bed? (mechanism to extend or retract cable according to tide?) Maybe dynamo can just hang in deeper water due to grravity, still a method to stop the whole lot drifting away is needed)
Good stuff Felix - keep it up - I find this thread very interesting!
Edited by The Excession on Thursday 5th November 20:13
The Excession said:
Problem with wind dragging container away?
Container should only just float at surface?
Is the dynamo anchored on the sea bed? (mechanism to extend or retract cable according to tide?) Maybe dynamo can just hang in deeper water due to grravity, still a method to stop the whole lot drifting away is needed)
Good stuff Felix - keep it up - I find this thread very interesting!
I keep up now Container should only just float at surface?
Is the dynamo anchored on the sea bed? (mechanism to extend or retract cable according to tide?) Maybe dynamo can just hang in deeper water due to grravity, still a method to stop the whole lot drifting away is needed)
Good stuff Felix - keep it up - I find this thread very interesting!
Edited by The Excession on Thursday 5th November 20:13
That if to fill all unused spaces up on ships with this polystyrene foam, most probably they stood unsinkable .
Thanks to the fact that it wouldn't be possible to sink them,
a lot of people so that it is possible to rescue.
And next
then to the shipyard it would be possible to tow away .
Regards Andrew
Recently I noticed ,that the aircraft would be very useful by the ability to swimming
Two days ago :
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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-142]tu142[/url]
If such a shortcut poliuretane foam for construction of such parameters:
Specifications specific gravity after hardening 11 - 16 ,3 kg/m3* Base polyurethane Productivity of 825 ml – 66 litres * c 100 mb of the stream about the diameter of 5 2 cm * Pyłosuchość 8 - 10 minutes * Time of processing 15 - 30 minutes * Time of hardening from 5 up to 48 h (full mechanical load capacity) * a free access of air is Necessary. One should not apply foam in rooms closed tightly. Resistance to UV rays weak in outside applications one should shelter the surface of foam from the UV radiation. Structure of cells of c 70 % smoothed, evenly closed cells thermal Resistance after hardening from – 40 ° C to + 90 ° C (short-term to + 140 ° C)
15 bottle give 1 m^3 (1000 litres) cost about 80 $ , this can swimm 1 tones
Tupolew 142 have 80 ton weight 80 x 15 = , need 1200 pieces bottles this foam .
All cost of foam 80 x 80 $= 6400 $.
Whole weight of the foam to allow the total buoyancy such an airplane is 1200 KG
It is only 1% of the total weight of the aircraft.
Wig area is 311 m^2 , 80 m^3/ 312 m^2 = 0,25 m the average amount of surface foam on the inside wings. I think that in this plane is so much unused space.
And such buoyancy of the aircraft would also be found useful for Airbus over the Atlantic, as well as the Boening over Hudson.
Regards Andrew
Straight structure of dynastarter brought the thought to mind for me in order on the similar principle to do electric brakes and the electric assisting engine on the not-drived pivot of the car .
Instead of the flywheel I used the brake disc from one side having small teeth made an incision.
They are also put on the PCB plate green "pins" in the bulk. http://www.new4stroke.com/greenpin.jpg
Such an arrangement allows on not-drived pivot to carry the electric brake out also. Yeah but very much work opportunities of such an arrangement are also an important case on not-drived pivots, as the electric motor driving wheels directly. Perhaps it won't be such an excellent drive as classical 4 x 4, but in critical situations can replace such a four-drive arrangement. I think that it is possible to name him 2 + 2.
Regards Andrew
Instead of the flywheel I used the brake disc from one side having small teeth made an incision.
They are also put on the PCB plate green "pins" in the bulk. http://www.new4stroke.com/greenpin.jpg
Such an arrangement allows on not-drived pivot to carry the electric brake out also. Yeah but very much work opportunities of such an arrangement are also an important case on not-drived pivots, as the electric motor driving wheels directly. Perhaps it won't be such an excellent drive as classical 4 x 4, but in critical situations can replace such a four-drive arrangement. I think that it is possible to name him 2 + 2.
Regards Andrew
Feliks said:
Straight structure of dynastarter brought the thought to mind for me in order on the similar principle to do electric brakes and the electric assisting engine on the not-drived pivot of the car .
Instead of the flywheel I used the brake disc from one side having small teeth made an incision.
They are also put on the PCB plate green "pins" in the bulk. http://www.new4stroke.com/greenpin.jpg
Such an arrangement allows on not-drived pivot to carry the electric brake out also. Yeah but very much work opportunities of such an arrangement are also an important case on not-drived pivots, as the electric motor driving wheels directly. Perhaps it won't be such an excellent drive as classical 4 x 4, but in critical situations can replace such a four-drive arrangement. I think that it is possible to name him 2 + 2.
Regards Andrew
Hey Andrew, Instead of the flywheel I used the brake disc from one side having small teeth made an incision.
They are also put on the PCB plate green "pins" in the bulk. http://www.new4stroke.com/greenpin.jpg
Such an arrangement allows on not-drived pivot to carry the electric brake out also. Yeah but very much work opportunities of such an arrangement are also an important case on not-drived pivots, as the electric motor driving wheels directly. Perhaps it won't be such an excellent drive as classical 4 x 4, but in critical situations can replace such a four-drive arrangement. I think that it is possible to name him 2 + 2.
Regards Andrew
The main problem with having wheel/hub motors is unsprung weight (too much upsets the handling of the vehicle), so if you were to mount them inboard such as in an Jaguar E-Type this may be feasable.
Like the idea of integrating the brakes, but the ridges/teeth would wear the pads out very quickly.
How about a drum setup integrated into the hub of the disc, put the magnets in the disc and coils as a conventional pancake motor?
The regeneration load from the motor will offer some braking assistance along with the drum.
With water cooling for the system this may be feasable.
Maby to cover the oil tanker with the “small duvet” for providing him unsinkable ?
The duvet would be made from sea containers filled up with foam, for safety ship.
If she was “too cool”, it is possible to do it her two-tier. Places aboard of oil tanker it is relatively much.
Duvet:
And Tanker:
Regards Andrew
The duvet would be made from sea containers filled up with foam, for safety ship.
If she was “too cool”, it is possible to do it her two-tier. Places aboard of oil tanker it is relatively much.
Duvet:
And Tanker:
Regards Andrew
And again.
Star engines were characterized biggest always force density
elow picture of the star half rotate around 10 (40) with "cylinders". for the transparency of the picture one can see only 3 additional "cylinders" more than is at the animated film.
One can also see dimensions of the whole of the engine in the assumption that every cylinder has such dimensions for the picture half rotate with the set connecting rod of the Sulzer D= engine of 900 mm and stroke 2500 mm .
So 10 (40) "cylindrical" engine half rotate about the same working capacity in comparing to the Sulzer 10 engine cylindrical on the picture below .
Sulzer: 10 Cylinders 20 m long , 15 m hight , 1500 Ton weight
Half rotate star : 10(40) "Cylinders" 4,5 m diameter , 4,5 m long
about 70 ton weight.
And most importantly.. Since in the engine half rotate mass innertia are several times Sulzer smaller than in the engine, engine half rotate can work with the much greater rotation speed.
Sulzer : 102 RPM 60 000 KW
Half rotate 250 RPM 150 000 KW
In same intake work volume .
Regards Andrew:
Sure the engines of cars will be similar proportions
Star engines were characterized biggest always force density
elow picture of the star half rotate around 10 (40) with "cylinders". for the transparency of the picture one can see only 3 additional "cylinders" more than is at the animated film.
One can also see dimensions of the whole of the engine in the assumption that every cylinder has such dimensions for the picture half rotate with the set connecting rod of the Sulzer D= engine of 900 mm and stroke 2500 mm .
So 10 (40) "cylindrical" engine half rotate about the same working capacity in comparing to the Sulzer 10 engine cylindrical on the picture below .
Sulzer: 10 Cylinders 20 m long , 15 m hight , 1500 Ton weight
Half rotate star : 10(40) "Cylinders" 4,5 m diameter , 4,5 m long
about 70 ton weight.
And most importantly.. Since in the engine half rotate mass innertia are several times Sulzer smaller than in the engine, engine half rotate can work with the much greater rotation speed.
Sulzer : 102 RPM 60 000 KW
Half rotate 250 RPM 150 000 KW
In same intake work volume .
Regards Andrew
:Sure the engines of cars will be similar proportions
Edited by Feliks on Friday 11th December 05:42
Usually from the other side flywheel a clutch is found.. it unfortunately still has a few defects. That is, relatively frequent exchange of the clutch disc, of impression with the spring,and of clutch bearing. it is one of service major repairs. , Mechanical or plumbing steering also often makes his correct action impossible
I thought, that if only an electric current decided on these all cases, it would be perhaps better. After refining details, the clutch without no service work could in order to work through the entire life of the car.
In order to carry the full function of the clutch out, he belongs, so as in previous of my proposal dynastartera, to use "green pins" and radial teeth the flywheel.
http://www.new4stroke.com/greenpin.jpg
Additionally, one should put two (or more) locks, which will steered will be a solenoid, and a spring to enter teeth on the flywheel and to close the clutch mechanically with this flywheel
So that this closing proceeds in a "stress-free way", one should add the electronic sensor which he will be detecting, or the flywheel in relation to the clutch isn't already rotate, and it is possible to put down solenoids controlling locks so that they connect on "hard" these two parts .
It is supposed to be similar acting to the synchronizer of the gearbox
Before the dismissal solenoid,, "green pins" must have the maximum electricity which with pressing a clutch pedal will be reducing. Of course this electricity and steering must reach the clutch through of collector rings, since the clutch is turning.
I think that after good designing and making such a clutch, we are having a chance to the clutch for entire living of the car
Regards Andrew
I thought, that if only an electric current decided on these all cases, it would be perhaps better. After refining details, the clutch without no service work could in order to work through the entire life of the car.
In order to carry the full function of the clutch out, he belongs, so as in previous of my proposal dynastartera, to use "green pins" and radial teeth the flywheel.
http://www.new4stroke.com/greenpin.jpg
Additionally, one should put two (or more) locks, which will steered will be a solenoid, and a spring to enter teeth on the flywheel and to close the clutch mechanically with this flywheel
So that this closing proceeds in a "stress-free way", one should add the electronic sensor which he will be detecting, or the flywheel in relation to the clutch isn't already rotate, and it is possible to put down solenoids controlling locks so that they connect on "hard" these two parts .
It is supposed to be similar acting to the synchronizer of the gearbox
Before the dismissal solenoid,, "green pins" must have the maximum electricity which with pressing a clutch pedal will be reducing. Of course this electricity and steering must reach the clutch through of collector rings, since the clutch is turning.
I think that after good designing and making such a clutch, we are having a chance to the clutch for entire living of the car
Regards Andrew
Feliks said:
And again.
............
And most importantly.. Since in the engine half rotate mass innertia are several times Sulzer smaller than in the engine, engine half rotate can work with the much greater rotation speed.
Sulzer : 102 RPM 60 000 KW
Half rotate 250 RPM 150 000 KW
In same intake work volume .
Regards Andrew:
Sure the engines of cars will be similar proportions
"Half rotate 250 RPM 150 000 KW "............
And most importantly.. Since in the engine half rotate mass innertia are several times Sulzer smaller than in the engine, engine half rotate can work with the much greater rotation speed.
Sulzer : 102 RPM 60 000 KW
Half rotate 250 RPM 150 000 KW
In same intake work volume .
Regards Andrew
:Sure the engines of cars will be similar proportions
But we only need 60 000 KW What doing?
Yeah so ,we will reduce dimensions half rotate some 2,5.
this dimension are ~~ 3 m dia and 3 m long ,40 Ton .........
But it then again will give us the possibility of increasing RPM Maybe to 400 RPM?
And next reduce ..... where are border this steps ???
Border is are very small engine
Andrew
Edited by Feliks on Monday 21st December 22:46
They want to cultivate the Christmas Eve, going behind the tradition in Poland which is telling us that on this special day one should be reconciled with all people which are surrounding us. My wishes of the vision Merry Christmas and modified return to sources that is poped valves.
I think that with traditionalists an approval will also take place in this special day.
My proposal it is modified poped valve which let for very effective picking up the warmth by chilling with intense stream of oil.
Thanks to widening the leading part of the valve to the maximum dimension which can only to fit in the nest , the surface of the joint of the valve with the head repeatedly was increased.
Thanks to widening the leading part of the valve to the maximum dimension which can only to fit in the nest the surface of the joint of the valve with the head repeatedly was increased. much simpler sailing across the warmth causes it to the well chilled head. a here also omitted Valve Guide which is usually of materials worse being a heat conductor than aluminium stayed. the additional crack of the baulk still became the Valve Guide to head liquidated in this new structure of the valve. The new structure allows to move heat to the head very efficiently. with valve quide omitting, and big relatively with area.
In the new structure it is an important thing, that inside valve on 3 / 4 one's length is feeling empty inside and has the enormous area for the exchange of the warm with chilling oil.
Chilling jst oil passed to the middle of the valve with the help of two tubes from which the very intense stream of cooling oil is flowing out.
I think that at such a construction of the valve, the temperature of the valve should not exceed 500 degrees Celsius, and NOx coming into existence in a combustion chamber can be limited about about 80 %
It will also be possible to increase the efficiency of the engine by increasing the degree of tensing, or else there will be no great temperature in a combustion chamber what the significant reduction of self-ignitions will cause, and will cause more laminar burning.
And the most important case. Since temperature of the new valve on 3 / 4 his lengths she should not be bigger than the temperature of the head, it will be possible to resign entirely from devices for placing valve clearance, since the sum of the expandability of the new valve and the expandability of the head will be approximately similar.
therefore keeping valve clearance of manner will be unnecessary as a result of the same complete expandability of the valve and the head.
Below I am describing two models of the latest version of valves, and the disintegration of the temperature on the length in the traditional valve.
Marry Christmas Andrew
I think that with traditionalists an approval will also take place in this special day.
My proposal it is modified poped valve which let for very effective picking up the warmth by chilling with intense stream of oil.
Thanks to widening the leading part of the valve to the maximum dimension which can only to fit in the nest , the surface of the joint of the valve with the head repeatedly was increased.
Thanks to widening the leading part of the valve to the maximum dimension which can only to fit in the nest the surface of the joint of the valve with the head repeatedly was increased. much simpler sailing across the warmth causes it to the well chilled head. a here also omitted Valve Guide which is usually of materials worse being a heat conductor than aluminium stayed. the additional crack of the baulk still became the Valve Guide to head liquidated in this new structure of the valve. The new structure allows to move heat to the head very efficiently. with valve quide omitting, and big relatively with area.
In the new structure it is an important thing, that inside valve on 3 / 4 one's length is feeling empty inside and has the enormous area for the exchange of the warm with chilling oil.
Chilling jst oil passed to the middle of the valve with the help of two tubes from which the very intense stream of cooling oil is flowing out.
I think that at such a construction of the valve, the temperature of the valve should not exceed 500 degrees Celsius, and NOx coming into existence in a combustion chamber can be limited about about 80 %
It will also be possible to increase the efficiency of the engine by increasing the degree of tensing, or else there will be no great temperature in a combustion chamber what the significant reduction of self-ignitions will cause, and will cause more laminar burning.
And the most important case. Since temperature of the new valve on 3 / 4 his lengths she should not be bigger than the temperature of the head, it will be possible to resign entirely from devices for placing valve clearance, since the sum of the expandability of the new valve and the expandability of the head will be approximately similar.
therefore keeping valve clearance of manner will be unnecessary as a result of the same complete expandability of the valve and the head.
Below I am describing two models of the latest version of valves, and the disintegration of the temperature on the length in the traditional valve.
Marry Christmas Andrew
Feliks said:
I see a few places where you can be put the foam.....
1% of the weight is almost the same as error weighting.
Regards Andrew
http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Sea-crash-pilot-rel...1% of the weight is almost the same as error weighting.
Regards Andrew
More lucky ,please
Andrew
And pilots emergency landing in watter prefer ( no fire , etc)
15 bottle of foam cost 80 $ and this Piper Twin Comanche save. Rent a good motorboat and go home ..
"Salt water extraction"
http://www.new4stroke.com/pompa.pdf
And sallt water Tank:
1 m^3 / sec if H = 100 m give ~~ 1 MW ( 1000 KW) electric energy
Regards Andrewcoffee:
http://www.new4stroke.com/pompa.pdf
And sallt water Tank:
1 m^3 / sec if H = 100 m give ~~ 1 MW ( 1000 KW) electric energy
Regards Andrew
coffee:Edited by Feliks on Monday 24th May 01:12
Feliks said:
"Salt water extraction"
http://www.new4stroke.com/pompa.pdf
And sallt water Tank:
1 m^3 / sec if H = 100 m give ~~ 1 MW ( 1000 KW) electric energy
Regards Andrewcoffee:
Variation of the old water wheel pumps, which used a flowing river to lift a small amount of water into a field.http://www.new4stroke.com/pompa.pdf
And sallt water Tank:
1 m^3 / sec if H = 100 m give ~~ 1 MW ( 1000 KW) electric energy
Regards Andrew
coffee:Edited by Feliks on Monday 24th May 01:12
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_wheel
I assume that's for electrical generation?
The Generator turbines may not be happy with the salt water.
annodomini2 said:
Variation of the old water wheel pumps, which used a flowing river to lift a small amount of water into a field.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_wheel
I assume that's for electrical generation?
The Generator turbines may not be happy with the salt water.
Yes , You right .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_wheel
I assume that's for electrical generation?
The Generator turbines may not be happy with the salt water.
The Wikipedia is only about how the water gives the mechanical energy, either as mechanical energy pumps water.
My solution is a third alternative:
Water pumps water.
It is an opportunity to complete at this point Wikipedia.
Mybe this animation better:
Detail about salt water generator:
http://www.new4stroke.com/salt%20water%20pumped%20...
Regards Andrew
Edited by Feliks on Wednesday 26th May 02:32
annodomini2 said:
There are some similar concepts in the prototype Phase that use hydraulic oil, in a hydrostatic pump/motor arrangement, rather than sea water as it's less corrosive.
But my solution is less expensive than the Japanese pumped storage because the generator and turbine not be able to pump water up. Water pump driven pumps waves.to causes a significant reduction in the cost of the generator unit.In addition, today we have a lot of non-corrosive materials such as ceramics, PVC, Teflon and the like.
I think that in future such power plants and pumps should be widely used.
Andrew
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