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"The gain in kinetic energy resulting from the increased linear velocity in the throat is offset (i.e., balanced) by the decrease of pressure in the throat. The reduction in pressure which occurs when the fluid flows through the throat is called the Venturi effect and is named after the Italian physicist Giovanni Battista Venturi (1746 - 1822) who first observed the effect."
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Venturi_effect
http://www.hippocampus.org/homework-help/Physics-B...
Andrew
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Venturi_effect
http://www.hippocampus.org/homework-help/Physics-B...
Andrew
Feliks said:
Yes of course . Thaks for help me .
Link to Venturi calc (java)
http://www.flowmeterdirectory.com/flowmeter_ventur...
It is proposed to be called Venturi widmill: " The Cube Turbine "
Do you know that such a large cooling towers at power plants are made of reinforced concrete walls with a thickness of 12 cm on average?
I'm very curious if that work well, though for that tip wentturi Inject and burn some fuel.
The calculations on the calculator Venturi, that, if the temperature of the air flow would be about 60 degrees Kelvin higher, the speed of the jet that increased by 50% !
If this is not too much to add, that was such a low temperature turbine engine
During low-wind, he could give a little energy.
It was like a ramjet engine
Ramjet
Jet helicopter
Well, such a complete install on the mountain. Would give as much energy as the whole of Poland produces.
Sniezka
Regards Andrew
in other forum :Link to Venturi calc (java)
http://www.flowmeterdirectory.com/flowmeter_ventur...
It is proposed to be called Venturi widmill: " The Cube Turbine "
Do you know that such a large cooling towers at power plants are made of reinforced concrete walls with a thickness of 12 cm on average?
I'm very curious if that work well, though for that tip wentturi Inject and burn some fuel.
The calculations on the calculator Venturi, that, if the temperature of the air flow would be about 60 degrees Kelvin higher, the speed of the jet that increased by 50% !
If this is not too much to add, that was such a low temperature turbine engine
During low-wind, he could give a little energy.
It was like a ramjet engine
Ramjet
Jet helicopter
Well, such a complete install on the mountain. Would give as much energy as the whole of Poland produces.
Sniezka
Regards Andrew
[quote]author=AdeV link=topic=4938.msg55663#msg55663 date=1305841944
It occurs to me that if one poured petrol into the ground-level fan, and put a spark-plug in the tail pipe of the nozzle, then the mountain could - finally - come to Mohammed... /quote]
Andrew
[u]Lesson Two: in terms of fundamental historical[/u]
Venturitubes 1937.pdf
On the pictures below you can see how small the venturi nozzle is to drive the gyroscopes in the strands. My finger and applied on the next hand, illustrate the size of the venturi tube. It is almost equal to the diameter of my finger. Now, please imagine how much energy to give the fan with the same diameter of my finger...
Since the narrowest point of the venturi tube, we can easily get up to 10 times higher air velocity, we can mount the engine behind the jet frame, which at high speeds the inlet has a good performance.
For example, you can mount an engine on an Tourist Plane, which reaches 200 km / h at the entrance to the RAM JET would be about 2000 km / h....
This will generate additional good sequence, using a very simple engine ( or two )
Regards Andrew
Venturitubes 1937.pdf
On the pictures below you can see how small the venturi nozzle is to drive the gyroscopes in the strands. My finger and applied on the next hand, illustrate the size of the venturi tube. It is almost equal to the diameter of my finger. Now, please imagine how much energy to give the fan with the same diameter of my finger...
Since the narrowest point of the venturi tube, we can easily get up to 10 times higher air velocity, we can mount the engine behind the jet frame, which at high speeds the inlet has a good performance.
For example, you can mount an engine on an Tourist Plane, which reaches 200 km / h at the entrance to the RAM JET would be about 2000 km / h....
This will generate additional good sequence, using a very simple engine ( or two )
Regards Andrew
[quote]Originally posted by Feliks
On the pictures below you can see how small the venturi nozzle is to drive the gyroscopes in the strands. My finger and applied on the next hand, illustrate the size of the venturi tube. It is almost equal to the diameter of my finger. Now, please imagine how much energy to give the fan with the same diameter of my finger...
Regards Andrew
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A venturi tube so small as my finger is able to propel a large heavy rotating disk gyroscope air to 10 000 RPM, and even walk through the air filter....
Since the gyroscope can be power, relatively high compared to the diameter of the venturi tubes (1 ") and he has the 2 ", then maybe you can do in F1 KERS Venturi "?
The air sucked into the engine can be sucked through a venturi tube so, resulting in a negative pressure to drive the gyroscope, which will keep energy....:tsk
That would be something like a turbine gives energy, but the intake pipe. Turbo
Regards Andrew
On the pictures below you can see how small the venturi nozzle is to drive the gyroscopes in the strands. My finger and applied on the next hand, illustrate the size of the venturi tube. It is almost equal to the diameter of my finger. Now, please imagine how much energy to give the fan with the same diameter of my finger...
Regards Andrew
[/quote]
A venturi tube so small as my finger is able to propel a large heavy rotating disk gyroscope air to 10 000 RPM, and even walk through the air filter....
Since the gyroscope can be power, relatively high compared to the diameter of the venturi tubes (1 ") and he has the 2 ", then maybe you can do in F1 KERS Venturi "?
The air sucked into the engine can be sucked through a venturi tube so, resulting in a negative pressure to drive the gyroscope, which will keep energy....:tsk
That would be something like a turbine gives energy, but the intake pipe. Turbo
Regards Andrew
Edited by Feliks on Tuesday 31st May 11:10
[quote]Originally posted by monkeysandbearspants
Having digested the content of the thread i conclude that the answer could be one of these !!
However weight may be an issue and mostly certainly there would need to to be some boot modifications!
[/quote]
http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_pomocni...
http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_pomocni...
http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_glowne/...
double bottom fo foam
http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=pl#p/u/53/Cfp0BWKwdgY dno
large swimmer:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=...
Regards Andrew
Having digested the content of the thread i conclude that the answer could be one of these !!
However weight may be an issue and mostly certainly there would need to to be some boot modifications!
[/quote]
http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_pomocni...
http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_pomocni...
http://www.full-ahead.net/Silownia/silniki_glowne/...
double bottom fo foam
http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=pl#p/u/53/Cfp0BWKwdgY dno
large swimmer:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pawielus?gl=PL&hl=...
Regards Andrew
Edited by Feliks on Friday 24th June 00:22
I thought about that. The float on the animation gives the impression of a small..
I think that this would be accurate...
http://www.dieselduck.net/videos/04%20weather/carg...
I wonder how many tons of water would be able to pump out the 100-meter high tank, during one cycle of the wave?
Regards Andrew
Edited by Feliks on Saturday 9th July 16:31
The Red Baron Windmill:
Due to the vacuum created by the wing, over which the wind flows, wind turbines in the channels of collective spin vacuum and provide energy....
Here you can see demonstrations of the film that created a vacuum at the top of the wing when the wind blows on him.
The resulting vacuum can suck the ball into the pipe passing through the wing.
http://youtu.be/Fb8IFfnbjY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8IFfnbjY8
By placing many of the holes on the top of the wing, use the vacuum on the entire surface of the wing. The Assembly shall meet in two sustaining supports and drives the suction fans to them with normal air pressure.
This will of course be used to produce energy,
and its amount will depend on the size of the system...
Regards Andrew
Due to the vacuum created by the wing, over which the wind flows, wind turbines in the channels of collective spin vacuum and provide energy....
Here you can see demonstrations of the film that created a vacuum at the top of the wing when the wind blows on him.
The resulting vacuum can suck the ball into the pipe passing through the wing.
http://youtu.be/Fb8IFfnbjY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8IFfnbjY8
By placing many of the holes on the top of the wing, use the vacuum on the entire surface of the wing. The Assembly shall meet in two sustaining supports and drives the suction fans to them with normal air pressure.
This will of course be used to produce energy,
and its amount will depend on the size of the system...
Regards Andrew
Edited by Feliks on Thursday 7th July 11:28
Edited by Feliks on Thursday 7th July 11:30
Feliks said:
The Red Baron Windmill:
Due to the vacuum created by the wing, over which the wind flows, wind turbines in the channels of collective spin vacuum and provide energy....
Here you can see demonstrations of the film that created a vacuum at the top of the wing when the wind blows on him.
The resulting vacuum can suck the ball into the pipe passing through the wing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8IFfnbjY8
By placing many of the holes on the top of the wing, use the vacuum on the entire surface of the wing. The Assembly shall meet in two sustaining supports and drives the suction fans to them with normal air pressure.
This will of course be used to produce energy,
and its amount will depend on the size of the system...
Regards Andrew
1. 2 posts will make turning the load into the direction the wind difficult. Larger base, higher friction and higher load as the whole system has to move.Due to the vacuum created by the wing, over which the wind flows, wind turbines in the channels of collective spin vacuum and provide energy....
Here you can see demonstrations of the film that created a vacuum at the top of the wing when the wind blows on him.
The resulting vacuum can suck the ball into the pipe passing through the wing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb8IFfnbjY8
By placing many of the holes on the top of the wing, use the vacuum on the entire surface of the wing. The Assembly shall meet in two sustaining supports and drives the suction fans to them with normal air pressure.
This will of course be used to produce energy,
and its amount will depend on the size of the system...
Regards Andrew
2. I'd be interested in seeing efficiency numbers, i'd guess that it wouldn't be great.
3. What wind speeds this could handle could be interesting though.
Suggestion:
Single post
Round 'wings' round the outside of the pole
Valves/flaps in the wings regulating turbine flow allowing high wind speed operation.
annodomini2 said:
1. 2 posts will make turning the load into the direction the wind difficult. Larger base, higher friction and higher load as the whole system has to move.
2. I'd be interested in seeing efficiency numbers, i'd guess that it wouldn't be great.
3. What wind speeds this could handle could be interesting though.
Suggestion:
Single post
Round 'wings' round the outside of the pole
Valves/flaps in the wings regulating turbine flow allowing high wind speed operation.
Annodomini2 has incorporated your suggestions!2. I'd be interested in seeing efficiency numbers, i'd guess that it wouldn't be great.
3. What wind speeds this could handle could be interesting though.
Suggestion:
Single post
Round 'wings' round the outside of the pole
Valves/flaps in the wings regulating turbine flow allowing high wind speed operation.
Of course, you must use the entire art of loving wing aerodynamics.
And How companies grow one way: speed amplifier in the form of air intake venturi nozzle.
Well, and a new kind of wings...
Venturi nozzle flat... After all the two wings made contrary to each other..
http://youtu.be/Fb8IFfnbjY8
Regards Andrew
Edited by Feliks on Wednesday 6th July 00:34
Edited by Feliks on Thursday 7th July 11:31
In other forum:
[quote name='gruntguru' date='Jul 6 2011, 08:37' post='5147823']
Those wings need endplates.
Seriously - using the flow in a secondary device means that a lot of the wind power is wasted, because the mass flow through the turbines is much less than the wind mass flow captured by the machine.
I have seen some interesting and original ideas in this thread, but you are wasting [u]YOUR[/u] energy trying to improve on the efficiency of a modern wind turbine.
[/quote]
All of this, I waste my energy ,you able to understand that there are other, much more efficient ways of using wind energy.
I know your great love for modern wind turbine, but you must remember that any excessive love sent your eyes, and impossible for an objective view of reality.
Besides, is not just about the same efficiency, but also for it to be able to build a very simple structure that even the next 4,000 years will exist. I makes sense to build on the sea, because they almost always wind blows from one direction - from the sea. And so it will probably still over the next 4000 years...
In such a structure may be, for example, 100 such horizontal " flat venturi " and long for 300 meters. Constructed channels will lead to negative pressure turbines which generate much electricity. And the only element consuming to be turbine generators. The rest should survive 4000 years without repairs...
So with these issues will be decisive, not only we can improve the efficiency of Venturi amplifier.
Well unless the people have lost the ability to build such structures ...
And here in a better resolution though you wanted to see more details:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af...
But who will be Pharaoh??
Regards Andrew
[quote name='gruntguru' date='Jul 6 2011, 08:37' post='5147823']
Those wings need endplates.
Seriously - using the flow in a secondary device means that a lot of the wind power is wasted, because the mass flow through the turbines is much less than the wind mass flow captured by the machine.
I have seen some interesting and original ideas in this thread, but you are wasting [u]YOUR[/u] energy trying to improve on the efficiency of a modern wind turbine.
[/quote]
All of this, I waste my energy ,you able to understand that there are other, much more efficient ways of using wind energy.
I know your great love for modern wind turbine, but you must remember that any excessive love sent your eyes, and impossible for an objective view of reality.
Besides, is not just about the same efficiency, but also for it to be able to build a very simple structure that even the next 4,000 years will exist. I makes sense to build on the sea, because they almost always wind blows from one direction - from the sea. And so it will probably still over the next 4000 years...
In such a structure may be, for example, 100 such horizontal " flat venturi " and long for 300 meters. Constructed channels will lead to negative pressure turbines which generate much electricity. And the only element consuming to be turbine generators. The rest should survive 4000 years without repairs...
So with these issues will be decisive, not only we can improve the efficiency of Venturi amplifier.
Well unless the people have lost the ability to build such structures ...
And here in a better resolution though you wanted to see more details:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af...
But who will be Pharaoh??
Regards Andrew
And here's the picture of Homer family watching the Red Baron Windmill prototype with flat Venturi nozzles.
If you meet all expectations, this is a prototype of Homer performs with Stone, as Pharaoh himself had wished.
And it will be a very durable building, well, for example, compared to the ridiculously short life of nuclear reactors...
Best Regards Andrew
If you meet all expectations, this is a prototype of Homer performs with Stone, as Pharaoh himself had wished.
And it will be a very durable building, well, for example, compared to the ridiculously short life of nuclear reactors...
Best Regards Andrew
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